NC St and Va Tech to the SEC would increase the footprint by around 20 million people so that would be worth it.
I could see this
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NC St and Va Tech to the SEC would increase the footprint by around 20 million people so that would be worth it.
No, I think there's a decent chance they leave the BIG12. But it's a lot more beneficial to them if the other schools find a new home at the same time because they wouldn't owe the conference any money. All of these expansion rumors help facilitate that process.
The longer it takes, Texam A&M has more time to work politics behind the scenes, BIG12 has a better chance of finding replacements, etc. None of that is good for TX or OU. So it's fan the flames and hope everyone panics and goes their separate ways.
That's a different discussion, though. Nobody is wrong because we're saying different things.They are correct, but K-time’s point is well taken: most of our recruiting victories have come against MSU, Penn State, Wisconsin and Nebraska. If those schools are left out of the Super-Conference, our argument might gain greater strength, at least for those without an offer from OSU and Michigan.
I saw that. So when are they joining the SEC?
UK Football is going to get kicked out of the conference and our fans are actively cheering it on.
People keep saying this, and it couldn't be further from reality. Kentucky is extremely valued by the SEC. I'd love to see some evidence that we're about to get kicked out of the conference. It's ludacrous.The SEC will not kick one of the Top 3 “properties” it has out of the conference.
We and Bama are in the strongest positions in the conference.
People keep saying this, and it couldn't be further from reality. Kentucky is extremely valued by the SEC. I'd love to see some evidence that we're about to get kicked out of the conference. It's ludacrous.
I think some are just letting their imaginations run away with themselves. No way the SEC is kicking us out. We won't even be "encouraged" to leave. I know Sankey doesn't feel that way. And for those keeping score, we do have the 3rd most titles in revenue sports in the SEC.How quickly folks forget who the top two earners in the conference were before the SEC Network!!
True...How quickly folks forget who the top two earners in the conference were before the SEC Network!!
No way I want B1G schools. Would kill our recruiting in their footprint.Sports Illustrated has a article on the potential SEC super conference. Apparently there is some smoke to this story. Ohio State, Michigan, Florida State and Clemson have apparently all contacted the SEC. Interesting.
Is the SEC Creating a Super Conference?
The college football world is riddled with conference realignment talk. With the College Football Playoff expansion taking place, combined with TV rightswww.si.com
We're 7th in revenue in SEC.The SEC will not kick one of the Top 3 “properties” it has out of the conference.
We and Bama are in the strongest positions in the conference.
But that's zero relevance to today.How quickly folks forget who the top two earners in the conference were before the SEC Network!!
But if you multiply revenue for each of those sports by number of titles, we drop much further down the list. I.e., hoops are near-irrelevant vs. football.And for those keeping score, we do have the 3rd most titles in revenue sports in the SEC.
I've seen people justify super conferences by arguing that football and basketball players aren't real students anyway, so why not just drop the artifice of them being amateurs and organize this like a real national pro league.
My question is what about the non-revenue sports? Those may matter less at some schools than others, but they do matter. Will they still be played (and will the teams travel across the country for competitions against their conference foes) or are we just scrapping anything that doesn't make money?
You can't multiply revenue by each title. What you can look at is annual revenue. And nationally, we mostly place somewhere in the 20s. Normally 25-30. We don't do heavy lifting like Alabama and LSU for the league, but we are an asset.But if you multiply revenue for each of those sports by number of titles, we drop much further down the list. I.e., hoops are near-irrelevant vs. football.
Grumpy, you raise some excellent points.While many football players have no interest in going to class, a good number of them are serious students too. What do you do with those kids?
I'm not sure a bastardized semi-pro college sports league will be what some are thinking. Over thing is for sure, we're getting ready to find out.I really dont know what the outcome of this will be. Big10, mostly OSU fans, think they are raiding the Big12 for Iowa St and Kansas and the Pac12 for SoCal, Stanford and maybe Washington. That contract the ACC has is probably going to get a test.
If all of this happens and we end up with 2 conferences with 25-30 teams, will these super conferences be for football? Everything else just goes to 6-8 regions?
Right now the NCAA is just a name with no power hoping to still collect dues. I thing college presidents or other representative will form a board that determines and enforces rules. It's basically an NFL model, which takes some of the excitement away for me.
As long as Title IX is law, those other sports will exist.I've seen people justify super conferences by arguing that football and basketball players aren't real students anyway, so why not just drop the artifice of them being amateurs and organize this like a real national pro league.
My question is what about the non-revenue sports? Those may matter less at some schools than others, but they do matter. Will they still be played (and will the teams travel across the country for competitions against their conference foes) or are we just scrapping anything that doesn't make money?
EXACTLYWe absolutely need to leave OSU and UM in control of the B10 and its fate. If we hope to ever scale the mountain to its peak, we want to remain the northern boundary of the SEC footprint.
Yes, as I said we're 7/14 in revenues. But that has nothing to do titles.You can't multiply revenue by each title. What you can look at is annual revenue. And nationally, we mostly place somewhere in the 20s. Normally 25-30. We don't do heavy lifting like Alabama and LSU for the league, but we are an asset.
PAC12 being smart & I hope B1G does something dumb like taking low TV pull schools. They made that mistake years ago with NE. Would love if they repeated it.
We are solid in titles and revenue. No worries of getting kicked out of the conference, right?Yes, as I said we're 7/14 in revenues. But that has nothing to do titles.
We're 7th in revenue in SEC.