Saturday Night Fool's Gold?

[BlueRattie]

• Nice win for the Wildcats vs. The Hawgs. They got down early and could have thrown in the towel, but they hung tough, stuck to the game plan and pulled it out by getting back to an aggressive, run-oriented personality.
  
  
• One of the wrinkles that Gran put in on the offense was to go a modified spread option attack, utilizing veers, read-option, speed options, designed QB runs, and just enough passing to keep Arky honest in the secondary. Bowden is clearly a gifted athlete, with elite vision and change of direction ability. His decision making ability in the read-option game is excellent, much better than Wilson's. His performance will go down in history right beside those of Cobb, Couch, and Lorenzen.
  
  
• However, it is a mistake to think that he is the answer of QB going forward. We need to remember that this Arkansas team is no world beater, and one could make the case that much of our success on offense was due to the fact that Arkansas had no film on many of the packages that they saw tonight. UK's talent did a lot of the heavy lifting tonight, but the sheer novelty of Gran's scheme did quite of bit of lifting as well.
  
  
• Next week, and ever week after that, teams will have film of this offense. They will be better prepared than Arkansas and generally much more talented. Understand that the offense (with Bowden at QB) is little more than the wing-T with some window dressing, not that different than what the service academies run. And there's a reason that elite programs don't run the wing-T.
  
  
• I know that there is a camp on this site that is beating the "Bowden is our QB" drum. It's an interesting but flawed idea. First of all, Bowden possesses neither the arm strength nor accuracy to be a QB. He's a great option as an occasional wildcat (formation) QB or as a full-time QB in an old style Georgia Tech kind of offense. But he is clearly not a full time QB. What's more, if we do keep him at QB we're hindering his development as a WR, which is where is professional future is. We also have to think about how playing Bowden at QB over a healthy Smith says to future QB and WR recruits. "Come to UK, where we never throw the ball and we play our WR's at QB!" Not a good look.
  
  
• From this point forward, or at least until Smith is healthy, the best shot we have at winning is semi-reinventions of the offense on a week to week basis and playing the best defense we can. I'm afraid, though, that Stoops/Gran will believe that tonight's plan is "the answer". It is not. Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee will all be prepared for this, and they will crush us.
  
  
• Let's celebrate Saturday's victory, but don't let it turn into fool's gold. There's still a lot to be done before this team is ready to compete on a week to week basis.

 

[vhcat70]

Not fool's gold. We coulda won by another TD or two. But that doesn't mean we should be predicting victory next week on the road.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

We can beat tn martin and vandy with this offense. Beyond that I'm not sure.

 

[Bluesnky]

Actually Missouri is really susceptible to struggling against the type of offense we played last night.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

• Nice win for the Wildcats vs. The Hawgs. They got down early and could have thrown in the towel, but they hung tough, stuck to the game plan and pulled it out by getting back to an aggressive, run-oriented personality.
  
  
• One of the wrinkles that Gran put in on the offense was to go a modified spread option attack, utilizing veers, read-option, speed options, designed QB runs, and just enough passing to keep Arky honest in the secondary. Bowden is clearly a gifted athlete, with elite vision and change of direction ability. His decision making ability in the read-option game is excellent, much better than Wilson's. His performance will go down in history right beside those of Cobb, Couch, and Lorenzen.
  
  
• However, it is a mistake to think that he is the answer of QB going forward. We need to remember that this Arkansas team is no world beater, and one could make the case that much of our success on offense was due to the fact that Arkansas had no film on many of the packages that they saw tonight. UK's talent did a lot of the heavy lifting tonight, but the sheer novelty of Gran's scheme did quite of bit of lifting as well.
  
  
• Next week, and ever week after that, teams will have film of this offense. They will be better prepared than Arkansas and generally much more talented. Understand that the offense (with Bowden at QB) is little more than the wing-T with some window dressing, not that different than what the service academies run. And there's a reason that elite programs don't run the wing-T.
  
  
• I know that there is a camp on this site that is beating the "Bowden is our QB" drum. It's an interesting but flawed idea. First of all, Bowden possesses neither the arm strength nor accuracy to be a QB. He's a great option as an occasional wildcat (formation) QB or as a full-time QB in an old style Georgia Tech kind of offense. But he is clearly not a full time QB. What's more, if we do keep him at QB we're hindering his development as a WR, which is where is professional future is. We also have to think about how playing Bowden at QB over a healthy Smith says to future QB and WR recruits. "Come to UK, where we never throw the ball and we play our WR's at QB!" Not a good look.
  
  
• From this point forward, or at least until Smith is healthy, the best shot we have at winning is semi-reinventions of the offense on a week to week basis and playing the best defense we can. I'm afraid, though, that Stoops/Gran will believe that tonight's plan is "the answer". It is not. Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee will all be prepared for this, and they will crush us.
  
  
• Let's celebrate Saturday's victory, but don't let it turn into fool's gold. There's still a lot to be done before this team is ready to compete on a week to week basis.

Sawyer Smith is clearly no Tim Couch either.
Lets wait and see what LB does before we piss on his parade.

Bowden is a unique talent that very few D1 college football teams possess.

He is quick, shifty, fast and has an innate knack for avoiding tackles and is an adequate thrower. No he is not Dan Marino but he doesn't have to be.

The pass play to Riggs is all he needs to do when teams cheat and stack the box.

The fade route to Thomas was a thing of beauty as well.

I say ride Bowden.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

We can beat tn martin and vandy with this offense. Beyond that I'm not sure.

My lord Mizzou, UT and U of L are going to get beat too!

 

[CB3UK]

Its clear theyre going with Sawyer when he's 100% healthy. If Lynn beats Georgia that conversation changes.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I got a towel at the game. With that 22 on it, I doubt anyone is throwing it in.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Actually Missouri is really susceptible to struggling against the type of offense we played last night.

Agree, but I think the only way we beat them is in a high scoring game where we have to keep up. I could see it being something like 38-35 if we win.

 

[rolaid]

Receivers open all night - coaches scared to death to throw it - Lynn can make the throws
SS is a turnover machine - can't play him

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Stoops said he was responsible for having Gran put the speed option into play. It was an important wrinkle.

 

[TBCat]

Not fool's gold. We coulda won by another TD or two. But that doesn't mean we should be predicting victory next week on the road.

His point is that we faced a team that didn’t know what to do with it. And he’s right on that. I would also point out that we faced a healthy amount of poor coaching. The times that we moved the ball the best it mostly on the ground. However Arkansas looked like they were in pass defense. There seemed to be little justification for them to be in three deep mode for much of the third but they were. I seriously doubt any other team will be that clueless.

 

[chroix]

More like fools bronze or maybe silver at best.

 

[irishcat1965]

What is hilarious is before the game a lot on here said Arkansas was going to beat UK’s ass, that they could have beaten a good A&M team ( they really should have) etc. Now after the game, Arkansas sucks. Now Arkansas is no world beater, but it was solid victory that UK had to have.

 

[bleUKollar]

• Nice win for the Wildcats vs. The Hawgs. They got down early and could have thrown in the towel, but they hung tough, stuck to the game plan and pulled it out by getting back to an aggressive, run-oriented personality.
  
  
• One of the wrinkles that Gran put in on the offense was to go a modified spread option attack, utilizing veers, read-option, speed options, designed QB runs, and just enough passing to keep Arky honest in the secondary. Bowden is clearly a gifted athlete, with elite vision and change of direction ability. His decision making ability in the read-option game is excellent, much better than Wilson's. His performance will go down in history right beside those of Cobb, Couch, and Lorenzen.
  
  
• However, it is a mistake to think that he is the answer of QB going forward. We need to remember that this Arkansas team is no world beater, and one could make the case that much of our success on offense was due to the fact that Arkansas had no film on many of the packages that they saw tonight. UK's talent did a lot of the heavy lifting tonight, but the sheer novelty of Gran's scheme did quite of bit of lifting as well.
  
  
• Next week, and ever week after that, teams will have film of this offense. They will be better prepared than Arkansas and generally much more talented. Understand that the offense (with Bowden at QB) is little more than the wing-T with some window dressing, not that different than what the service academies run. And there's a reason that elite programs don't run the wing-T.
  
  
• I know that there is a camp on this site that is beating the "Bowden is our QB" drum. It's an interesting but flawed idea. First of all, Bowden possesses neither the arm strength nor accuracy to be a QB. He's a great option as an occasional wildcat (formation) QB or as a full-time QB in an old style Georgia Tech kind of offense. But he is clearly not a full time QB. What's more, if we do keep him at QB we're hindering his development as a WR, which is where is professional future is. We also have to think about how playing Bowden at QB over a healthy Smith says to future QB and WR recruits. "Come to UK, where we never throw the ball and we play our WR's at QB!" Not a good look.
  
  
• From this point forward, or at least until Smith is healthy, the best shot we have at winning is semi-reinventions of the offense on a week to week basis and playing the best defense we can. I'm afraid, though, that Stoops/Gran will believe that tonight's plan is "the answer". It is not. Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee will all be prepared for this, and they will crush us.
  
  
• Let's celebrate Saturday's victory, but don't let it turn into fool's gold. There's still a lot to be done before this team is ready to compete on a week to week basis.

 

[RackOps]

I don't believe Bowdin is the answer going forward, but I can't see how you can pull him or even put him on a short leash after last nights performance.

The team has rallied around him and replacing him for what might appear to be a better option would be disasterous, IMO.

 

[GridCats]

I agree, the win had little to do with the way Gran call the game. To many runs up the middle when it was clear it wasn't there. Spread the field and give Bowden more options. The short pass was there for the taking.

 

[JC CATS]

Is Smith out for the season?

 

[1_Cool_CAT]

Next week, and ever week after that, teams will have film of this offense. They will be better prepared than Arkansas and generally much more talented.

Arkansas in their last 19 SEC games has a combined record of 1-18 and that one victory goes back into the 2017 season.........

Lynn played his heart out last night and left it all on the field, but due to the reason you mentioned, future opponents now have game film to prepare for

 

[Kampus Korner]

• Nice win for the Wildcats vs. The Hawgs. They got down early and could have thrown in the towel, but they hung tough, stuck to the game plan and pulled it out by getting back to an aggressive, run-oriented personality.
  
  
• One of the wrinkles that Gran put in on the offense was to go a modified spread option attack, utilizing veers, read-option, speed options, designed QB runs, and just enough passing to keep Arky honest in the secondary. Bowden is clearly a gifted athlete, with elite vision and change of direction ability. His decision making ability in the read-option game is excellent, much better than Wilson's. His performance will go down in history right beside those of Cobb, Couch, and Lorenzen.
  
  
• However, it is a mistake to think that he is the answer of QB going forward. We need to remember that this Arkansas team is no world beater, and one could make the case that much of our success on offense was due to the fact that Arkansas had no film on many of the packages that they saw tonight. UK's talent did a lot of the heavy lifting tonight, but the sheer novelty of Gran's scheme did quite of bit of lifting as well.
  
  
• Next week, and ever week after that, teams will have film of this offense. They will be better prepared than Arkansas and generally much more talented. Understand that the offense (with Bowden at QB) is little more than the wing-T with some window dressing, not that different than what the service academies run. And there's a reason that elite programs don't run the wing-T.
  
  
• I know that there is a camp on this site that is beating the "Bowden is our QB" drum. It's an interesting but flawed idea. First of all, Bowden possesses neither the arm strength nor accuracy to be a QB. He's a great option as an occasional wildcat (formation) QB or as a full-time QB in an old style Georgia Tech kind of offense. But he is clearly not a full time QB. What's more, if we do keep him at QB we're hindering his development as a WR, which is where is professional future is. We also have to think about how playing Bowden at QB over a healthy Smith says to future QB and WR recruits. "Come to UK, where we never throw the ball and we play our WR's at QB!" Not a good look.
  
  
• From this point forward, or at least until Smith is healthy, the best shot we have at winning is semi-reinventions of the offense on a week to week basis and playing the best defense we can. I'm afraid, though, that Stoops/Gran will believe that tonight's plan is "the answer". It is not. Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee will all be prepared for this, and they will crush us.
  
  
• Let's celebrate Saturday's victory, but don't let it turn into fool's gold. There's still a lot to be done before this team is ready to compete on a week to week basis.

Reality post. Good one.

 

[mrschwump]

Arkansas in their last 19 SEC games has a combined record of 1-18 and that one victory goes back into the 2017 season.........

Lynn played his heart out last night and left it all on the field, but due to the reason you mentioned, future opponents now have game film to prepare for

And TN just won like their third out of the last 20 or so.

BTW, a few years ago UK loses this game going away.

 

[mrschwump]

And unfortunately UK was one of them last year. The fact remains, future teams now have game footage of LB in the QB position and will have time to prepare....

True but this game is a constant game of adjustments. UK probably has wrinkles they can add. Look, UK has a very narrow margin for error. Have to hope improvements can continue on D(finally got a little pass rush, hoping to force more turnovers) and in the kicking game(Ruffalo's 50 yarder was huge). UK's not in the best of situations, just have to keep plugging away.

 

[ktbug]

It is amusing to see people who couldn't coach a middle school team telling a college coach what they should see. As if the didn't see it or know what to do.

 

[BlueRattie]

His point is that we faced a team that didn’t know what to do with it. And he’s right on that. I would also point out that we faced a healthy amount of poor coaching. The times that we moved the ball the best it mostly on the ground. However Arkansas looked like they were in pass defense. There seemed to be little justification for them to be in three deep mode for much of the third but they were. I seriously doubt any other team will be that clueless.

And thus "fool's gold." One could watch last night's game and get a false sense that we now have "the answer" for the rest of the season. We clearly do not.

 

[NoDef]

Bowden is probably the best option we have right now. This is just a short time thing to stop the bleeding. We will more than likely get stomped next week and the Mizzu game will probably be the one to tell what we have from here on out. Have to remember that we just played the worst team in the SEC at home last night.

 

[Canned Heat]

SS hopefully gets healthy enough to play part of the game. A mixture of LBJ and SS should be the game plan going forward

 

[STL_Cat]

A W is a W and a loss would have been a disaster. Take it for what it’s worth and hope we can build on it.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Stick with Bowden until Smith is 100%. That includes healthy enough to keep on reads and step up/scramble. Him protecting his shoulder from contact hurts just as bad as his inability to throw.

Big concern with Bowden going forward is teams going to zone on pass, which limits his big scrambles. Can't believe Arkansas was in man, but may be due to so many playing run. Either way, man coverage let Lynn get some huge scrambles

 

[irishcat1965]

And thus "fool's gold." One could watch last night's game and get a false sense that we now have "the answer" for the rest of the season. We clearly do not.

Bowden is not the answer at QB for the rest of the season. But he clearly was the answer to get a must win last night. And it also gives the defense pause that he can pass the ball if he is given a small QB package in future games with Sawyer getting most of the snaps.

 

[cardkilla]

Bowden showed more than enough accuracy and touch on his passes IMO. At that is after only playing the position full time for 10 days or so. With experience I think he can only get better as a passer. Tebow did just fine in college with his lackluster passing ability. Bowden is just a winner. If we want to win I think you give him the reigns and keep the defense guessing by throwing it more and putting in more wrinkles. Most importantly, I thought Bowden made GREAT decisions last night. That's important at QB

 

[Black Diamond Cat]

Bowden is not the answer at QB for the rest of the season. But he clearly was the answer to get a must win last night. And it also gives the defense pause that he can pass the ball if he is given a small QB package in future games with Sawyer getting most of the snaps.

U surely do not think S Smith is the answer at QB...... Turnover machine !

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

The offense looked pretty good at times. However, running the equivalent of taking a knee on 1st down was not a good look.

Guess Bowden needed a blow at times and that was the way to do it.

It will be less successful against UGA.

Hopefully, the Dawgs will be listless after their comeuppance yesterday.

 

[irishcat1965]

U surely do not think S Smith is the answer at QB...... Turnover machine !

If you don’t think upcoming teams aren’t going to figure out how to defend the very limited offensive package Bowden presents, I don’t know what to tell you. Sawyer’s problems are in part due to his injuries. That said, I’m not saying Sawyer is some great QB. He isn’t.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

We can beat tn martin and vandy with this offense. Beyond that I'm not sure.

Not vandy

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

• Nice win for the Wildcats vs. The Hawgs. They got down early and could have thrown in the towel, but they hung tough, stuck to the game plan and pulled it out by getting back to an aggressive, run-oriented personality.
  
  
• One of the wrinkles that Gran put in on the offense was to go a modified spread option attack, utilizing veers, read-option, speed options, designed QB runs, and just enough passing to keep Arky honest in the secondary. Bowden is clearly a gifted athlete, with elite vision and change of direction ability. His decision making ability in the read-option game is excellent, much better than Wilson's. His performance will go down in history right beside those of Cobb, Couch, and Lorenzen.
  
  
• However, it is a mistake to think that he is the answer of QB going forward. We need to remember that this Arkansas team is no world beater, and one could make the case that much of our success on offense was due to the fact that Arkansas had no film on many of the packages that they saw tonight. UK's talent did a lot of the heavy lifting tonight, but the sheer novelty of Gran's scheme did quite of bit of lifting as well.
  
  
• Next week, and ever week after that, teams will have film of this offense. They will be better prepared than Arkansas and generally much more talented. Understand that the offense (with Bowden at QB) is little more than the wing-T with some window dressing, not that different than what the service academies run. And there's a reason that elite programs don't run the wing-T.
  
  
• I know that there is a camp on this site that is beating the "Bowden is our QB" drum. It's an interesting but flawed idea. First of all, Bowden possesses neither the arm strength nor accuracy to be a QB. He's a great option as an occasional wildcat (formation) QB or as a full-time QB in an old style Georgia Tech kind of offense. But he is clearly not a full time QB. What's more, if we do keep him at QB we're hindering his development as a WR, which is where is professional future is. We also have to think about how playing Bowden at QB over a healthy Smith says to future QB and WR recruits. "Come to UK, where we never throw the ball and we play our WR's at QB!" Not a good look.
  
  
• From this point forward, or at least until Smith is healthy, the best shot we have at winning is semi-reinventions of the offense on a week to week basis and playing the best defense we can. I'm afraid, though, that Stoops/Gran will believe that tonight's plan is "the answer". It is not. Georgia, Missouri, and Tennessee will all be prepared for this, and they will crush us.
  
  
• Let's celebrate Saturday's victory, but don't let it turn into fool's gold. There's still a lot to be done before this team is ready to compete on a week to week basis.

Phenomenal post. I wish I had an extra set of hands so I could this post 4 thumbs up.

 

[BlueRattie]

Mod's deleted one of my comments. LOL Must have been reported for putting a troll in his place. How utterly pedestrian.

 

[SDcatfan13]

Not vandy

Considering Vanderbilt just lost by 24 to a mediocre mid major and their best RB is dinged up, I’d say so. Kentucky should be able to impose their will running the ball and that should be enough to control the game and win.

 

[UK Cats Rock]

Mod's deleted one of my comments. LOL Must have been reported for putting a troll in his place. How utterly pedestrian.

Don’t be so quick to assume. I deleted your post because it was attached to another poster who is in no way contributing to the thread and causing trouble.

Your post was deleted to get rid of all of those posts to clean up this thread so we can stay on topic. ;-)

 

[BlueRattie]

Don’t be so quick to assume. I deleted your post because it was attached to another poster who is in no way contributing to the thread and causing trouble.

Your post was deleted to get rid of all of those posts to clean up this thread so we can stay on topic. ;-)

Point taken. I shouldn't have assumed the worst, but I did just that. This is, I suppose, what social media does to us.

 

[Black Diamond Cat]

If you don’t think upcoming teams aren’t going to figure out how to defend the very limited offensive package Bowden presents, I don’t know what to tell you. Sawyer’s problems are in part due to his injuries. That said, I’m not saying Sawyer is some great QB. He isn’t.

Probably not beating UGA regardless.