Can any thread be started without you guys bashing Cal? Someone puts up stats on Reeves, and its Cal's fault he can't shoot, its Cal's fault he didn't play enough early in the season, its Cal's fault he played too much late in the season, its Cal's fault he is leaving, its Cal's fault he is coming back and he sucks and we can't get anyone else. WE GET IT, YOU THINK CAL CAN'T COACH. There are 5 threads a day about that. But do you have to hijack every other thread on here?
Reeves today
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Thats complete bull****.
Nobody is saying he's make or break, but yea he is probably top 6/7 on next years team.
You mean the best competition like Arkansas who had more than a few NBA players on their team? Or Cincy fan top players?
Lolol yea it has nothing to do with the freaking kid wanting to make money. Good lord what a joke
Anyone who can put up 40 on the Rd in sec, can play at UK.
I would not say he pushes players like Reeves to the draft. It’s probably more accurate to say that he doesn’t discourage them from doing that.
But what you said has nothing to do with the fallacy of Reeves being streakier than other shooters or that he is bad in big games.
You don’t have a clue.
Providence? First round, coming off a loss to a 15 seed the previous year? Haven’t won a tourney game since 2019? No pressure there though right?
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The dude is a streaky but he was also our most consistent scoring threat through most of the conference schedule. It was basically him, toppin and oscar carrying the scoring for us.
He did not say transfer he said there are a dozen intramural guys at UK as good as Reeves.
When its all said and done "the buck stops here" with Cal, when it comes to Ky basketball. He is responsible for all.
He actually tries to get some guys back, but he doesn't push hard enough. When he sees it's clear a Ty Ty or Goodwin or Skal is ready to go pro, even when they're not ready, Cal defers and stops applying pressure. That's the issue.
I would think that there shouldn't be any, as such a guy shouldn't be coming off the bench, right?
We have struggled and struggled badly the past few years but your statement is ignorant. It implies that we struggle to get players here since we have slipped a bit and that’s the furthest thing from the truth. The problem is, y’all think we need 40% 3 point shooters backing up 50% 3 point shooters at every position. Oscar is easily top 10 best players ever at UK while averaging insane rebounding and scoring averages but the one complaint? He can’t shoot 3’s. 😂 Also, being from Illinois St. has nothing to do with talent. Some of the best players that’s ever played our game has been from small colleges.
What happened to attacking the rim, mid range game, working inside out?
What is it with this negativity?? Reeves is a skid player.
Bingo. And this was the difference between us and UNC when UNC went on their last run(2016-2017). UNC’s 2017 title team had an absurd 70+ games of tourney experience. And it’s because Roy was selling guys on UNC and not just the nba. So it was easier to get them back when the time came.
Thanks for personal attack. Haven’t had one for a minute here.
In your advanced wisdom you saw a guy that can guard, pass and handle in Reeves?
Good for you. You are so smart you saw things that didn’t exist.
Can’t respond to everyone, so I’ll just leave this here:
MSU - 1/7
@GONZ - 4/13
UCLA - 2/13
@MIZZ - 3/6, just 8 points
KAN - 3/9
ARK - 4/12
@UGA - scored 20 but took 21 shots, 38%
VAN - 4/17
@Van - scored 22, but took 20 shots and was 3/9 from deep
KSU - 1/15
Do I want the guy back? Sure. But the fact that we NEED him back is the issue. Lots of dudes could replicate what he’s done. Mediocre dude on a mediocre team playing for a less than mediocre coach.
MSU - 1/7
@GONZ - 4/13
UCLA - 2/13
@MIZZ - 3/6, just 8 points
KAN - 3/9
ARK - 4/12
@UGA - scored 20 but took 21 shots, 38%
VAN - 4/17
@Van - scored 22, but took 20 shots and was 3/9 from deep
KSU - 1/15
Do I want the guy back? Sure. But the fact that we NEED him back is the issue. Lots of dudes could replicate what he’s done. Mediocre dude on a mediocre team playing for a less than mediocre coach.
We do need Reeves back for next season along with Oscar. If you look at most of the Updated 2023 Mock Draft boards and there is alot of them most have Oscar at #75 when looking at the Top 100. I did see Oscar in one Mock Draft board and Oscar was the last pick in 2nd round of draft. I looked at about 8 or 9 NBA Mock Draft boards and the boards that had the Top 100 most had Oscar around 75.
If I was Cal I would still hit the Portal and bring in another PF/big man like a 6'11 Grant Nelson and another Shooting Guard or Combo Guard that can shot from outside. With Kentucky currently sitting at 7 players with Thiero, Ugo, and 5 Freshmen we still need a couple good solid players from the portal. If Oscar and Reeves does return and then we are 9 and if Johnson comes and Cal can get another combo guard that can shoot from outside and from 3 at approx 38-40%, and another strong PF Big Man like a 6'11 Nelson then Kentucky would be at 12 scholarship players and 1 walk-on scholarship player that puts us at 13 total.
We have all seen the last 2-3 years and the multiple players getting injured during mid to end SEC Play heading into NCAA Tournament. The last 3 seasons we had 3 or more injuries during Mid to End February before Tourney. Kentucky's bench depth has been Zero in the last 2-3 seasons and it has killed UK in last 2-3 years. There are still good solid PF/big men/guards in the transfer portal that UK could add for next season. Get another PF/big man and a good shooter that can knock down the outside and 3 point-shot a combo guard. That would put Kentucky at good strong 11 or 12 players for next season. Last year basically it was Reeves and Wallace from the outside with Fredrick injured most of the season. It would be nice if Cal would go strong after 6'11 Grant Nelson that went for 18 & 10 this past year and another good shooter to give UK 11 or 12 players.
If I was Cal I would still hit the Portal and bring in another PF/big man like a 6'11 Grant Nelson and another Shooting Guard or Combo Guard that can shot from outside. With Kentucky currently sitting at 7 players with Thiero, Ugo, and 5 Freshmen we still need a couple good solid players from the portal. If Oscar and Reeves does return and then we are 9 and if Johnson comes and Cal can get another combo guard that can shoot from outside and from 3 at approx 38-40%, and another strong PF Big Man like a 6'11 Nelson then Kentucky would be at 12 scholarship players and 1 walk-on scholarship player that puts us at 13 total.
We have all seen the last 2-3 years and the multiple players getting injured during mid to end SEC Play heading into NCAA Tournament. The last 3 seasons we had 3 or more injuries during Mid to End February before Tourney. Kentucky's bench depth has been Zero in the last 2-3 seasons and it has killed UK in last 2-3 years. There are still good solid PF/big men/guards in the transfer portal that UK could add for next season. Get another PF/big man and a good shooter that can knock down the outside and 3 point-shot a combo guard. That would put Kentucky at good strong 11 or 12 players for next season. Last year basically it was Reeves and Wallace from the outside with Fredrick injured most of the season. It would be nice if Cal would go strong after 6'11 Grant Nelson that went for 18 & 10 this past year and another good shooter to give UK 11 or 12 players.
Or, maybe it’s the fact that UK had three legit NBA players on its roster and I’m not sure one player from that UNC team plays meaningful minutes (or any minutes) on an NBA team.
What about the games where he shot well? Pretty easy to cherry pick
Justin Jackson was a projected lotto pick after his freshman year and they got 2 more years out of him. But more so than that we were losing guys like Skal, Poythress(who had a year of eligibility left), Dakari, Marcus Lee, Charles Matthews to transfer weren’t lotto picks or even draft picks to the draft or transfer and UNC had a 4 year stretch where they didn’t lose those guys.
Then off the 2017 we lost Briscoe, and Humphries, two sophomores that weren’t going to get drafted as well.
Ofcourse we don’t even have THAT excuse anymore because now like 90% of D1 programs are hemmoraging players because of NIL and immediate transfer eligibility.
The ones that come out on top every year are going to be the few that actually keep their players.
i love Oscar as well but he's not in the top 10 of players that have ever played here at UK.Not close.
The argument I made centered around his play against the best competition. Much more often than not, he failed to perform against the best competition (as evidenced by the referenced games).
Not even close? Depends on how you define success.
In terms of team success, Tayshaun Prince didn’t win sh*t. Where does he rank? He averaged 13 ppg his career yet I see people act like he is some all-time great. And I was a huge fan of his, for the record.
The Auburn Arkansas Alabama and Providence games say you’re cherry picking data.
You also included games like UGA and Vandy, neither of which made the tourney. They were bad losses but definitely not big games.
Reeves doesn't show up in big games..............if I just flat out ignore all the big games he's shown up in
I loved Tayshaun just like you bro,but he wouldn't be considered top 10.Both Tayshaun and Oscar have had solid careers at UK and Tayshaun went on and had some success in the NBA but neither would be considered top 10 material in the grand scheme of UK history.Im not saying it to be mean either,I loved both players.IF Oscar comes back and has a storybook season to close things out then we shall see but first thing is,he has to come back.
Also, let's say that's true (and I don't think it is) and Reeves doesn't show up in big games.
I still want him back. Because.........what the heck is the alternative at this point? It's not as if you are replacing Reeves with someone better at this point. Someone that "will perform in big games"
We aren't talking Reeves vs "better player that performs in big games"
We are talking about Reeves vs ........no one or bottom of the scrap heap at this point.
That goes even further as far as Oscar is concerned.
I still want him back. Because.........what the heck is the alternative at this point? It's not as if you are replacing Reeves with someone better at this point. Someone that "will perform in big games"
We aren't talking Reeves vs "better player that performs in big games"
We are talking about Reeves vs ........no one or bottom of the scrap heap at this point.
That goes even further as far as Oscar is concerned.
Yep we could have had another shooter had we been serious in contacting from the portal in a player like Knecht or perhaps Dingle but if Reeves doesn't come back then we shoot ourselves in the ass.He is inconsistent for sure,but there aren't any options out there that are better than Reeves so we need him back and live with whatever he gives.
Literally the only other major one is guarding pick and roll which can be fixed some. He’s not a good but GREAT college player and we have fans who want him gone. That’s ignorance in the purest form.
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