It's ridiculous. And people call UK fans delusional. If we're delusional, duke is Jonestown.
R.J. Barrett Announcement part one
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Can we move this discussion to another thread? I'm here for RJ Barrett news not a pooping contest.
It's funny how you're taking a 10 game sample from their entire careers and ignoring the fact that Kyrie and the Cavs couldn't make the playoffs in the terrible Eastern conference until Lebron showed up while Wall had much more success with an equally bad Wizards team for their first few years.
He’s not even the best PG in the east
Steph, Wall, Westbrook, CP3, Dame, Conley, and Lowry are all better than him
Nobody here knows anything, so you're looking for "news" in the wrong spot. You'll get your news at 6 pm.
You’re one of those people that think they have a valid point, but in reality, are just as ignorant as the people that make programs look bad from time to time.
sorry ive had like 9 cups of coffee. was still thinking of his previous spot.
Wilt Chamberlain averaged 8.6 assists in the 1967-1968 season.... better point guard than Kyrie IMO
Stop smoking crack
I'm actually here for the pooping contest. Am I in the wrong thread?
Not current NBA but starting 5 who ya got ?
Team 1 - Kyrie Irving
Jeff Mullins
Grant Hill
Loul Deng
Elton Brand
Team 2 - John Wall
Devin Booker
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins
Karl Towns
Anthony Davis CAN guard Grant Hill anywhere.
Do not forget DC and his 3 point shooting.
One team would run the other into a heart attack. You decide which.
Team 1 - Kyrie Irving
Jeff Mullins
Grant Hill
Loul Deng
Elton Brand
Team 2 - John Wall
Devin Booker
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins
Karl Towns
Anthony Davis CAN guard Grant Hill anywhere.
Do not forget DC and his 3 point shooting.
One team would run the other into a heart attack. You decide which.
Grant Hill and AD would be fun to watch. Don't forget that Elton Brand was a beast in his prime and would be able to score pretty easily on KAT since he's still a work in progress on defense.
Boogie would be a problem for Duke, that's for sure.
Jeff Mullins/JJ Redick have a big edge over Booker since they can play decent D and feast on Booker's non existent defense.
UK has more starpower in the NBA right now than Duke; it would be foolish to argue otherwise. Remember, Cal completely outrecruited everyone from 2010-2013 and that shows in NBA talent as those guys are more seasoned in the league.
Coach K and Jeff Capel's legendary recruiting run started in 2014 and Winslow/Ingram/Tatum are still acclimating to the NBA and we've got more on the way with Bagley/Carter/Duval/Reddish/Barrett.
In 6-8 years, the NBA talent will be similar between Duke and Kentucky.
I thought you were joking at first. Then I realized that you're just an idiot.
That's because the pg the Cavs traded Irving for is injured and hasn't stepped foot on the court. If you're gonna talk, at least know a little bit about the topic.
That's better. Sometimes you just need a 2nd (or 3rd) try.
Anyone throwing shade at Kyrie needs to just stop, he won Cleveland that title and is carrying Boston. Dude is legit. And saying he didn't take Cavs to the title or win the East pre-Lebron, I think he was there what, like a year or 2 before Lebron got there?
Because reddick is a defensive wizard?
- BIG IF, UK stops recruiting top talent for the next 6-8 years!
- Also, another BIG IF, if Coach K is still alive and still coaching in 6-8 years!
- K will ONLY b 76-78 years old by then.
- Coach Cal will only b 66 years old EIGHT years from now.
- Their b-days r 3-days and 12-years apart.
- UK has finished 1st (5) or 2nd (4) in ESPN recruiting rankings ALL NINE years that he has coached at UK
- UK's average team ranking (per ESPN) for those nine years is 1.44.
- Duke has finished anywhere from 1st to 15th during this time span.
- Duke has finished 1st (3) or 2nd (2) in ESPN recruiting rankings in the years that Cal has coached at UK.
- Duke's average team ranking (per ESPN) for those nine years is 5.44.
- The ONLY continuing "legendary recruiting run" currently in college basketball is the job that Cal has done at UK since 2009!
- Duke has been hot for the last four years but how does one explain the previous FIVE years with an average ESPN team ranking of 8.80??
He was there 3 years before Lebron came back and in those 3 years:
2013-14 Cavaliers 33-49 .402 10th, East Conference
2012-13 Cavaliers 24-58 .293 13th, East Conference
2011-12 * Cavaliers 21-45 .318 13th, East Conference
The next year:
2014-15 Cavaliers 53-29 .646 2nd, East Conference Lost NBA Finals
However, nobody is citing those stats tho to disparage Kyrie. I mentioned those stats as Duke fans were trying to use a 10 game sample to show how Kyrie is better at being the leader of a team than Wall is (even tho, those 10 games show that the Celtics are doing just as good this year with Kyrie and having their core players back).
"From: Elton Tyron Brand
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Leaving Duke
Thank you very much, for reminding me of the reason why I left Duke. People like you can not and will not ever understand my situation. I’m sure daddy worked very hard to send your rich self to college. While real people struggle. I would also like to extend an invitation for you not to waste your or my time ever again. Never being considered a part of your posh group of yuppies really hurts me to the heart. Yeah, right. Because I don’t care about you or your alumni.
Sincerely,
Elton Brand #42 NBA"
You opened the "Elton Brand" door.
![[winking]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/wink.r191677.gif "Winking [winking]")
Definitely did not win Cleveland a title. He didn’t to $hit until Lebron came along. In fact , pretty sure he and the Cavs were one of the worst in the league.
Cmon... it’s like you’re not even trying
(Per ESPN Recruiting Team Rankings/ Since Coach Cal at UK)
- BIG IF, UK stops recruiting top talent for the next 6-8 years!
- Also, another BIG IF, if Coach K is still alive and still coaching in 6-8 years!
- K will ONLY b 76-78 years old by then.
- Coach Cal will only b 66 years old EIGHT years from now.
- Their b-days r 3-days and 12-years apart.
- UK has finished 1st (5) or 2nd (4) in ESPN recruiting rankings ALL NINE years that he has coached at UK
- UK's average team ranking (per ESPN) for those nine years is 1.44.
- Duke has finished anywhere from 1st to 15th during this time span.
- Duke has finished 1st (3) or 2nd (2) in ESPN recruiting rankings in the years that Cal has coached at UK.
- Duke's average team ranking (per ESPN) for those nine years is 5.44.
- The ONLY continuing "legendary recruiting run" currently in college basketball is the job that Cal has done at UK since 2009!
- Duke has been hot for the last four years but how does one explain the previous FIVE years with an average ESPN team ranking of 8.80??
Since Duke's "legendary recruiting run" in 2014 (current NBA talent).........
UK:
Lyles, Booker, Ulis, Towns, Labissierre, Murray, Monk, Adebayo, Fox
Duke:
Winslow, Okafor, Jones, Kennard, Ingram, Giles, Jackson,Tatum
Now be honest (if u can) which one of these rosters of players would you start a team with................. The choice is easy!!!!!!!!
Also, If you were drafting a team out of these two lists of players.......IMO, #1 Towns, #2 Booker, #3 Fox, #4 Tatum, #5 Monk/ Murray.
"From: Elton Tyron Brand
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Leaving Duke
Thank you very much, for reminding me of the reason why I left Duke. People like you can not and will not ever understand my situation. I’m sure daddy worked very hard to send your rich self to college. While real people struggle. I would also like to extend an invitation for you not to waste your or my time ever again. Never being considered a part of your posh group of yuppies really hurts me to the heart. Yeah, right. Because I don’t care about you or your alumni.
Sincerely,
Elton Brand #42 NBA"
You opened the "Elton Brand" door.
I have read a lot of dumb bull**it on this board over the years. The idea that Anthony Davis couldn’t guard Grant Hill is the dumbest.
![[roll]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/roll.r191677.gif "roll [roll]")
Great point.
I really think Duke is for the sheltered and catered players.. On paper, and according to the rankings, Duke's post 2014 class wins, by a good amount.
But when the rubber hits the pavement, when it's time to work.. you're taking that UK class all day.
We'll see just how Bagley, Carter. Jones, and Trent fair in the NBA. Why do I get the sense that when the going gets tough, they'll fold much sooner than a Kentucky player.
So
So do you think Barrett is more tough minded like a UK player or more feeble minded like a Duke player?
So do you think Barrett is more tough minded like a UK player or more feeble minded like a Duke player?
We'll know when he picks..
You can call me crazy, and there are certainly some exceptions. Winslow I think is a pretty hard worker, who just might not be quite NBA-level talent (he did have injuries to deal with the last two years).
But you can't tell me there isn't a trend with recent Duke players compared to recent Kentucky players. Coach Cal and Coach K are selling two different things. Some recruits like what Cal has to offer, some don't.
And in 6-8 years K will be gone and your one-coach wonder program will be sh*t
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