QB Coach Knew Everyone Would Eventually Realize How Special Jarren Williams Is And Will Be At UK
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Here's hoping he's as good as Deshaun Watson. Gunner followed by Williams sound like a lot of wins over the next 5 years.
Looking at this coach's resume, and the recent accomplishments by Jarren at the Opening/Elite 11, I see little likelihood that smoke was being blown.
He often does get lost in the QB discussions, doesn't he? Here's hoping he makes all eat their non-words about him. The more the merrier.
I know most new recruits can come with more hype than probably deserved, but I have a feeling we have a future star at QB for Kentucky with this kid. He just doesn't look like the type of talent at QB you'd expect to commit to Kentucky. Once the kid is in school and ready to work on his game, I also like the fact it is looking like Kentucky will have a O-Line capable of giving the kid the time needed to make winning football plays. With the staff we now have at Kentucky, this is the type of talent you can expect at Kentucky every time you look at our roster. So glad our guys can recruit as well as they can.
Agreed they must continue to land big names and find gems. We are loaded at QB Walker Wood is very good idc what anyone says 100% healthy he's a legit threat and very capable. I'm not a Radical Barker guy but one thing he's displayed is He used his status as a E11 QB to sway numerous prospects. Williams is trying but Barker somehow got it done and again u will not find me anywhere talking about how SJ should be benched for Barker but I must give him credit he's the best player recruiter I've witnessed at UK.
Williams will be a leader at UK. The kid deserves the praise he gets and the excitement he generates is real. Is he planning on a mid-year entry to school?
Yeah man, Walker Wood is the guy everybody is underrating. Most assume he will change positions but I believe the staff will give him an honest shot at the job when the time comes. He's a versatile athlete so he may be needed somewhere other than QB (where we're gonna have lots of good options) but he's got the potential to be successful there if called upon imo. He's got that SJ type of "it" factor that may allow him to overcome any physical limitations, although I do agree with most fans that Clark will be the QB of this class. I love getting guys like Wood that are athletic/smart enough to fill multiple roles, really gives the coaches some flexibility. It's just an added bonus that he's also a local kid that grew up a UK fan. I'm excited to see how the staff decides to utilize his talent.
Yeah I'm trying not to be the guy that automatically dismisses Walker to another position because I do think he is a legitimate all around talent at QB. But I just think his potential as a slot guy are exciting. I see Wes Welker. So it's not that I don't think he could be a good QB, I just think he could be a better slot type.
Who was the kid that came in late in UK's spring game? Was that Clark? Whoever it was looked pretty dang good and to assume he is going to just roll over and not be a factor in the qb race are kidding themself. If he loses he competiton to a younger guy will be tough keeping him. We are getting the same thing on our board, people are already saying if we get Fields, no sure thing by any stretch, he will be our starter as a soph or RFr. Fromm is no glorified walkon himself and does things as for looking off receivers, reading defenses and running his progression better than Eason, he was a 5* and we were fortunate to sign him. If Fields signs with us and wins the qb job when Eason leaves Fromm is outta there.
No doubt, he could be great in that role. Something like a Dicky Lyons Jr (one of my all time favorites) type of WR. Renfrow from Clemson is another guy that comes to mind, undersized but just knows how to play FB, he torched Bama in the NC game. Not the biggest/fastest/strongest guy but succeeds by being tough as nails, playing fearless, running great routes, playing with a high IQ and catching everything near him.
Hands are always a big ? when it comes to converting an athlete into a WR but that can be coached up if the player is a hard worker (which he seems to be, great leader). He will have great competition no matter where he ends up but I believe he's the type of player that they'll want to get on the field in some way because of his versatility and intangibles.
I can see him red shirting to add strength, being a ST demon his first couple of years and then stepping into a big role as an upperclassman and becoming a team leader and fan favorite. If the QBs don't pan out or there are injuries you put him in and let him run the WC. If you need some depth and toughness at WR you put him in the slot as a reliable go to guy underneath. If you're set on O then you put him in as an extra DB and let him roam the field and create havoc.
As you can probably tell I'm pretty excited about what he can offer to the team. I rarely hear him mentioned amongst UK fans because he's coming in with some highly rated, highly regarded studs that have set positions and huge expectations but he is the quintessential wildcard of this class.
Worst case scenario, imo, he'll be a solid all around player but not great enough at any one thing to beat out the specialists ahead of him and becomes a high character locker room leader that gives you some solid depth in the case of injuries and is an extra coach on the sideline. Best case scenario he turns into a Cobb/Welker jack of all trades that can burn a team up at multiple positions in multiple ways. Chances are he'll fall somewhere in the middle and have his share of nice moments while making the hometown fans proud. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what he can do as a Wildcat.
Ok, thx, I just don't think that kid will roll over and not be a factor, especially have a couple years on him
I agree, Grumpy. In two years, we will have some real options at QB.
And this leads me to another subject: UK, since Tim Couch, has had lots of productive QB's, more so, I would argue, than has LSU, and Auburn, and some other high profile SEC programs.
LSU is a mystery to me. Multiple seasons, the last 30 years, I have watched them and realised that all they really lacked was a real QB. Strange, that across decades and coaching staffs, the same apparent shortcoming would repeat itself, over-and-over.
Maybe Kentucky could get two defensive tackles for a QB, trading with LSU!@#$
And this leads me to another subject: UK, since Tim Couch, has had lots of productive QB's, more so, I would argue, than has LSU, and Auburn, and some other high profile SEC programs.
LSU is a mystery to me. Multiple seasons, the last 30 years, I have watched them and realised that all they really lacked was a real QB. Strange, that across decades and coaching staffs, the same apparent shortcoming would repeat itself, over-and-over.
Maybe Kentucky could get two defensive tackles for a QB, trading with LSU!@#$
The LSU thing has always been strange to me. It's not like they struggle signing highly rated guys but it seems like they never quite live up to the hype. They always have some of the best RBs and WRs in the country but haven't been able to find a QB to match the skill guys. Russel and Flynn were very good players but that's been a while. Most of the time their 2nd and 3rd string players on D would be starters at UK. I don't think they'll trade any of them though.
Jarren Williams looks to be a program changing QB at UK. Unfortunately, if that happens it means other QBs probably transfer. It's just the way the QB position is.
If this year goes as well as I and many of us think it well, that bodes well for 2018 and beyond. 2018 could be a special, special year imo.
If this year goes as well as I and many of us think it well, that bodes well for 2018 and beyond. 2018 could be a special, special year imo.
I don't understand why some schools have such a hard time recruiting certain positions either, for LSU its definitely qb. Even when they won the NC under Saban, the qb wasn't very good and didn't get a whiff from the NFL, graduated and went straight into dental school. UK it seems to be DT, at UGA its WR.
Whoa just a sec, he is a very good qb prospect, has lots of skills and a very good upside with the potential to be a very good college qb. He isn't a Cam Newton who could carry a team. Don't need to be putting labels on him 6 months before he arrives on campus. The Hoak kid can play and will have 2 years in the system before Williams arrives. But like I said above, we are recruiting Justin Fields hard, no idea if we get him, but people are already talking about him starting over the Fromm kid, who had a great spring and just got to Athens in January, who was also a 5* qb himself. He isn't a DT guy, but moves in the pocket with his eyes downfield, if Eason didn't have 12 games experience on him he would be our starter this year. He isn't a program changer, but can win an awful lot of games with him back there.
I hadn't thought about UGA and WR, but you are right. Let's see, in the last 20 years, you had that REAL good receiver . . . . was it A. J. Green?
But I struggle to name UGA wide receivers.
Ask the "just beyond casual" college football fans to name a Kentucky QB, and they usually don't struggle too much coming up with Couch, Lorenzen and maybe even Woodson,
Ask the same fans for UGA running backs, and most can name 4 or 5.
Perhaps it is a long-term, multi-generational effect from some super-highly rated/recognized talent at the position. Obviously for UGA at running back, Walker's name still (and will always) resonate with even less-than-casual fans. Couch started something at Kentucky that has pretty much stuck through 20 (plus) years and multiple staffs . . . . we usually have a 4/5 star QB, and one coming in not far behind, though they have generally been home grown. Jarren's commitment is HUGE in that he's the first Elite 11 type player from out-of-state that we have landed (unless Morgan Newton or Ryan Mossakowski did it, and I don't think they did.)
Also at Kentucky, I'm always surprised to hear fans, even from other conferences, ask about Jared Lorenzen and how he's doing, etc. That kid had a huge interest factor, and drew colorful commentary where ever he went. Short of Larry Munson's most famous calls of Walker runs, perhaps his most famous quote about an opponent player was directed at Jay Load: "He looks like a Big Blue Christmas tree, and the Georgia defenders look like red ornaments hanging off of him."
I miss the old announcers. Cawood, Munson and Ward at UT were amazing. We will not see their kind, again.
I will finally be a happy UK football fan when we field a defensive unit consistent with the standard at LSU. Much respect for the tradition of pride and performance on defense at LSU.
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