POLITICAL THREAD

[TheFrontRunner]

This self-righteous, biased tool once moderated a presidential debate and was a White House correspondent. Shocker people lost trust in the media. This is a top ten 'didn't age well' post of 2024.

 

[Girthang]

Stop it you idiot. You proved our point. They did not choose to leave but were forced to, for their lives. Would they have gone to Egypt if Harrod had not killed the first birn sons? No. They sought refuge and were classic refugees. Nothing else.

They did not wake up and say....lets emigrate to Egypt. They did not remain and become Egyptian. They were refugees who returned at the first opportunity. Gawd you are stoooopid.

Quit being so nice to it. Maybe it will go away

 

[Girthang]

Then explain the Uyghuars in Communist China. I know that you smug leftists have convinced yourself of moral superiority, that all ills are on the right... That is nonsense.

Stalin jailing gays in the Soviet Union?
Communist North Korea? Is there gay marriage? Can you get a sex change? NO

I can continue disprovimg your list if you'd like.

He's just FOS and knows it. Probably gets a woody if anyone even responds to him

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Then explain the Uyghuars in Communist China. I know that you smug leftists have convinced yourself of moral superiority, that all ills are on the right... That is nonsense.

Stalin jailing gays in the Soviet Union?

I can continue disprovimg your list if you'd like.

Well no, I am arguing philosophy. There’s a reason why people say communism looks the best on paper.

When Stalin collected all the grain under the guise of sharing it with the masses was communism. Intentionally starving the Ukrainians happened under a communist regime, but itself is not communism.

Same with the Muslims in china now. The reeducation and imprisonment is not a philosophy of communism itself, but done by a dictator bent on controlling all aspects of life.

Same with the Tartars and Crimeans.

So if you want to continue this talk, just know I’m talking philosophies. Best socialist examples would be the Nordic hybrid system we see today.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

Stop it you idiot. You proved our point. They did not choose to leave but were forced to, for their lives. Would they have gone to Egypt if Harrod had not killed the first birn sons? No. They sought refuge and were classic refugees. Nothing else.

They did not wake up and say....lets emigrate to Egypt. They did not remain and become Egyptian. They were refugees who returned at the first opportunity. Gawd you are stoooopid.

It’s even more than that. Jesus wasn’t the typical refugee. He had to leave as you said. Herod is a blood descendant of Esau who God hated and gave Isreal to Jacob. Esau bloodline went to the fallen angels Luciferians as he mated with them. The whole Esau bloodline became proselytized and Jewish converts. That whole bloodline is Luciferians. Wouldn’t be surprised if ended up in the Bauer (Rothchilds).

Sam picked the most stupid example.

 

[Lost In FL]

Well no, I am arguing philosophy. There’s a reason why people say communism looks the best on paper.

The only ppl that say this are: immature philosophers or dishonest philosophers. The immature NEVER take into account the sinful nature of mankind. The dishonest type from a lap of luxury, never admitting they would backstab someone in a heartbeat if they were hungry enough.

When Stalin collected all the grain under the guise of sharing it with the masses was communism. Intentionally starving the Ukrainians happened under a communist regime, but itself is not communism.

Same with the Muslims in china now. The reeducation and imprisonment is not a philosophy of communism itself, but done by a dictator bent on controlling all aspects of life.

Same with the Tartars and Crimeans.

So if you want to continue this talk, just know I’m talking philosophies. Best socialist examples would be the Nordic hybrid system we see today.

Communism fails every time. Every time. The only exception would perhaps be a small community, that is protected by a larger, free society. The amish would not survive in china, saudi, etc.

To disagree is foolishness.

 

[AshWilliams]

I see you want to jump aboard. So what far left policies did Hitler hold. This is all trivial, but Ash seems hellbent to frame Hitler as a leftist and now you want in on the fun.

Regardless, he was a populist like the others and like 45 and 47. I’m not immediately saying that is a bad thing. Sometimes doing the right and popular thing and not being bound to party norms is a good thing. It could also be a slippery slope.

Straw man and a LIE. I never said that, nor am I "hellbent on framing" him.

Try again, fraud.

 

[AshWilliams]

Authoritarianism is right leaning. Removal of Jews, Jehovah witnesses, gays, handicapped, and anyone else that is not desirable is a far right leaning construct.

Socialism and communism is all about equality abroad. Sometimes that means everyone starves, right?

I think most people here are right leaning, but I’m not accusing anyone here of being Hitler. I am also not accusing that of Trump.

Slavery by definition would also not be a policy of the left as it is placing a class below another.

Notice how DESPERATE "bigmikey" (a.k.a. Dion) is to ABANDON his wacky attempt to rehabilitate Bernie Sanders. He's literally attacking a straw man about Hitler in a Hail Mary.

 

[AshWilliams]

They’re actually on opposite ends of the spectrum.

You're wrong.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

The only ppl that say this are: immature philosophers or dishonest philosophers. The immature NEVER take into account the sinful nature of mankind. The dishonest type from a lap of luxury, never admitting they would backstab someone in a heartbeat if they were hungry enough.

Communism fails every time. Every time. The only exception would perhaps be a small community, that is protected by a larger, free society. The amish would not survive in china, saudi, etc.

To disagree is foolishness.

That’s why I am not advocating for a socialist society, merely the components that would fit nicely into the society we have now.

Straw man and a LIE. I never said that, nor am I "hellbent on framing" him.

Try again, fraud.

Well you’ve called him a commie and a socialist, but you haven’t called him what he is. He’s a fascist.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

You're wrong.

No I am not. They’re equally bad if that’s what you are saying, but they are not the same.

 

[Girthang]

The whole Esau bloodline became proselytized and Jewish converts.

Yep.

FORCED converts to Judaism by the Maccabees after the 1st temple rebuild was destroyed, and it was then rebuilt by Judas Maccabee because they didn't believe it could be cleansed after what Epiphanes did within it. They were called Idumeans in the Greek which is from a transliteration of Edom. This is why the Herodian rulers sided with Rome over the Judeans so often, and why the common people among the Judeans revolted.

Yet it was their own doing in abandoning God's instructions

Sam picked the most stupid example.

Surprise surprise

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Sam you can't take off the Minnie Mouse head and smoke while you are on the clock

 

[Girthang]

The only ppl that say this are: immature philosophers or dishonest philosophers.

Sophistry is analogous to deceit/deception in many cultures for a reason.

The immature NEVER take into account the sinful nature of mankind. The dishonest type from a lap of luxury, never admitting they would backstab someone in a heartbeat if they were hungry enough.

Dion has admitted as much without directly saying it, as all such do. They prey on the weak minded like hyenas on the young and weak in the herds they track

 

[Lost In FL]

I agree they aren't breaking the law. However they too must go.

So the children are here legally??

 

[Lost In FL]

Sophistry is analogous to deceit/deception in many cultures for a reason.



Dion has admitted as much without directly saying it, as all such do. They prey on the weak minded like hyenas on the young and weak in the herds they track

which explains Drag Queen Story Hour. recruiting never ends ... right Dion/mikey?

 

[Lost In FL]

Only evil people twist words like some do, but their father is the father of lies and twisting of words. He was that way from the very beginning

And that is why they follow him...some of them do not even realize it.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

which explains Drag Queen Story Hour. recruiting never ends ... right Dion/mikey?

Still not Dion. Ban it, if it keeps the peace, I’m all for it.

 

[Lost In FL]

Trump’s Tariffs Will Refill the Swamp​

"During his first term, Donald Trump promised to “drain the swamp.” That didn’t happen. Now he may actually do the opposite. If Mr. Trump succeeds in imposing across-the-board tariffs, the swamp will grow."

"The problem is that Mr. Trump’s tariff program would energize and empower these elites. By directing government to impose levies on allies and adversaries alike, he’d be giving more strength to the swamp monsters he’s supposed to be defeating.

"When Washington wants to impose new taxes, including tariffs, the companies and people who would be affected rush to trade associations, public-relations firms and lobbyists for help. These outfits then encourage their clients to make sizable donations to elected officials and their political-action committees. That doesn’t ensure the elected officials will take the company’s side, but it can often open their doors for access."

"We saw this play out in response to Mr. Trump’s tariffs during his first term. When he imposed strict steel and aluminum tariffs in 2018, thousands of U.S. companies lobbied the Commerce Department to end the tariffs or exempt their operations. Some companies exempted from the tariffs lobbied the Commerce Department to keep them in place on their competitors.

As his tariff regime expanded, the number of companies deploying lobbyists in Washington tripled. According to the Journal, there were roughly 100 groups lobbying on tariff issues when Mr. Trump took office. By June 2018, there were nearly 450. Imagine how many more there will be if his second-term tariff program is as expansive as he’s promising."

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/tariffs-will-refill-the-swamp-lobbyists-elites-interest-groups-trump-second-term-5ad7ad25?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1

Yea, because the deep state came into being without tariffs.

Oh lawd, some people lose all sense of reasoning when they are desperate to make a point.

 

[FirewithFire]

Didn't see that one coming. Bet the brain damaged Vu guy didn't either. Civil suit incoming.

Oklahoma AG dismisses assault charge against officer who slammed 71-year-old man to the ground

Oklahoma's Republican attorney general is dismissing a felony assault charge against a police officer who slammed a 71-year-old man to the ground, breaking his neck.

apnews.com

"As attorney general, I will not permit Oklahoma police officers to face criminal prosecution for conduct adhering to their training," Drummond said in a statement. "While the outcome of this incident is unquestionably devastating for Mr. Vu and his family, I do not believe the officer exhibited criminal intent."

 

[AshWilliams]

That’s why I am not advocating for a socialist society, merely the components that would fit nicely into the society we have now.

Well you’ve called him a commie and a socialist, but you haven’t called him what he is. He’s a fascist.

Why are you running away from Bernie Sanders? You like the guy, DEFEND him. Explain why he idolized the Soviet Union, responsible for murdering tens of millions.

I have a question. Can a cow survive by feeding from its udder?

 

[Lost In FL]

Still not Dion. Ban it, if it keeps the peace, I’m all for it.

ban it because it keeps the peace? and not because it is morally reprehensible? do better for your kid, man.

 

[Lost In FL]

1. Grithang is bringing the heat today! Dam, man slow down! LOL. JK, keep it up.
2. Why would anyone WANT to come on here and get abused issue after issue, time after time? Makes no sense to me, unless they are truly miserable people.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Manchin calls Biden's clemency for two killers 'horribly misguided and insulting'

Sen. Joe Manchin, I-W.Va., characterized President Biden's commutations of the sentences of two prisoners who had been on federal death row as "horribly misguided and insulting."

www.foxnews.com

 

[AustinTXCat]

** Wise Words Department **

"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats."

-Groucho Marx

 

[bigblueinsanity]

So even if the family eludes "capture" for say 10-12 years, the kids have jobs, they aren't even with their parents anymore (Dead?, Missing?), they need to go? FWIW, I disagree that they do - as I said many times.

If someone broke into your home but brought kids, the kids don't get to just stay even when their parents are removed. Not only are they not here legally, but we must remove every incentive for illegal immigration.

So the children are here legally??

They are not but they are not the one committing the crime. Still doesn't mean they should be allowed to stay.

 

[AustinTXCat]

WSJ:

771,480

The estimated number of people who were homeless in the U.S. in 2024, a record, according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development. The tally marks an 18% increase from a year earlier, and was fueled by factors including an influx of migrant families, a lack of affordable housing and natural disasters.

Thanks, Joe! Thanks, Kamala!

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

ban it because it keeps the peace? and not because it is morally reprehensible? do better for your kid, man.

Here’s the libertarian in me. I don’t care what other people do. I will not be taking my kids to such events and so if a family does that, that’s isn’t a decision for me to make. If you guys want to take that ability for a family to do that, that’s fine too because either way my children will it be exposed. The second option requires lifting on your end, though.

 

[Lost In FL]

If someone broke into your home but brought kids, the kids don't get to just stay even when their parents are removed. Not only are they not here legally, but we must remove every incentive for illegal immigration.



They are not but they are not the one committing the crime. Still doesn't mean they should be allowed to stay.

The children are not here legally, meaning they are here illegally. That's my point.

Not their fault, fair, but they are here illegally and need to be removed with their parents or sent back to their familia from wherever they came. But make no mistake, they are here illegally too.

Edit: the kids did break the law too. One can argue "not their fault", okay, but it is still illegal.

 

[Lost In FL]

Here’s the libertarian in me. I don’t care what other people do. I will not be taking my kids to such events and so if a family does that, that’s isn’t a decision for me to make. If you guys want to take that ability for a family to do that, that’s fine too because either way my children will it be exposed. The second option requires lifting on your end, though.

Why can't cigarette companies advertise on TV anymore? You are probably too young to remember Joe Camel. Why do game makers have to put a rating on their games? The libertarian in me doesn't give 2 chits whether they do or not. But I'm an adult. But if we "accept" those rules as a society ...

These rules were put in place because kids cannot tell right from wrong at that age and are severely impressionable. Similarly, kids should not be allowed in strip clubs or drag shows of any kind. It is not appropriate for their age. Why that is debatable is really strange to me.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Why can't cigarette companies advertise on TV anymore? You are probably too young to remember Joe Camel. Why do game makers have to put a rating on their games? The libertarian in me doesn't give 2 chits whether they do or not. But I'm an adult. But if we "accept" those rules ...

These rules were put in place because kids cannot tell right from wrong at that age and are severely impressionable. Similarly, kids should not be allowed in strip clubs or drag shows of any kind. It is not appropriate for their age. Why that is debatable is really strange to me.

Ban it. I have no issue on banning it.

 

[sambowieshin]

Stop it you idiot. You proved our point. They did not choose to leave but were forced to, for their lives. Would they have gone to Egypt if Harrod had not killed the first birn sons? No. They sought refuge and were classic refugees. Nothing else.

They did not wake up and say....lets emigrate to Egypt. They did not remain and become Egyptian. They were refugees who returned at the first opportunity. Gawd you are stoooopid.

So they were ASYLUM seekers just like I said. Thanks to you as well for proving my point yet again. Like clockwork.
Just like the many refugees that cross the border into the United States every day seeking refuge and asylum from gangs, governments and other dangers.
By your logic....Egypt should have taken Baby Jesus from his mom's arms...put him in a cage.....and sent Mary and Joseph packing back to King Harod.
Better to be stupid than wicked and heartless.
It's never too late to come to the light.

Read. Your. Bible.

"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:34

"And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt."
Deuteronomy 10:19

“This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor. Do not plot evil against each other.’
Zechariah 7:9-10

Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.
Hebrews 13:1-3

 

[vhcat70]

If someone broke into your home but brought kids, the kids don't get to just stay even when their parents are removed. Not only are they not here legally, but we must remove every incentive for illegal immigration.

Attempt at analogy fails. A home is private property where privacy is invaded & perhaps physical & property damage is caused. See VZ gangs. Entry into US isn't into private property & attacks nothing.

Once more, why punish grown adults who have done nothing wrong? Vindictive as hell. Much more productive to legalize them.

 

[vhcat70]

WSJ:

771,480

The estimated number of people who were homeless in the U.S. in 2024, a record, according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development. The tally marks an 18% increase from a year earlier, and was fueled by factors including an influx of migrant families, a lack of affordable housing and natural disasters.

Thanks, Joe! Thanks, Kamala!

Data: 0.2% of the population including migrants.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

So they were ASYLUM seekers just like I said. Thanks to you as well for proving my point yet again. Like clockwork.
Just like the many refugees that cross the border into the United States every day seeking refuge and asylum from gangs, governments and other dangers.
By your logic....Egypt should have taken Baby Jesus from his mom's arms...put him in a cage.....and sent Mary and Joseph packing back to King Harod.
Better to be stupid than wicked and heartless.
It's never too late to come to the light.

Read. Your. Bible.

"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:34

"And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt."
Deuteronomy 10:19

“This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor. Do not plot evil against each other.’
Zechariah 7:9-10

Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.
Hebrews 13:1-3

I missed the part in the Bible where they went to the Egyptian embassy and applied for asylum. You certainly got me there. Did they use the Pharoah app?

 

[DrH. Lecter]

So they were ASYLUM seekers just like I said. Thanks to you as well for proving my point yet again. Like clockwork.
Just like the many refugees that cross the border into the United States every day seeking refuge and asylum from gangs, governments and other dangers.
By your logic....Egypt should have taken Baby Jesus from his mom's arms...put him in a cage.....and sent Mary and Joseph packing back to King Harod.
Better to be stupid than wicked and heartless.
It's never too late to come to the light.

Read. Your. Bible.

"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:34

"And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt."
Deuteronomy 10:19

“This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor. Do not plot evil against each other.’
Zechariah 7:9-10

Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.
Hebrews 13:1-3

/2

What about THOU SHALT NOT BE AN EFFING LIAR.

 

[AshWilliams]

So they were ASYLUM seekers just like I said. Thanks to you as well for proving my point yet again. Like clockwork.
Just like the many refugees that cross the border into the United States every day seeking refuge and asylum from gangs, governments and other dangers.
By your logic....Egypt should have taken Baby Jesus from his mom's arms...put him in a cage.....and sent Mary and Joseph packing back to King Harod.
Better to be stupid than wicked and heartless.
It's never too late to come to the light.

Read. Your. Bible.

"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:34

"And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt."
Deuteronomy 10:19

“This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor. Do not plot evil against each other.’
Zechariah 7:9-10

Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.
Hebrews 13:1-3

Cherrypicking idiot.

How about this one:

Rev. 21:8
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Be afraid, samboy.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Cherrypicking idiot.

How about this one:

Rev. 21:8
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Be afraid, samboy.

Can you point out the parts of the Bible that allow for you to be so mean spirited?

 

[Lost In FL]

Can you point out the parts of the Bible that allow for you to be so mean spirited?

I make no claims to being a "scholar", but Matthew 21:12 and Mark 11:15. Jesus was pissed because people were doing evil things in His Father's house. When being pissed (or "mean spirited") at evil, it must not be a sin.

IOW, you gotta take a stand somewhere. Some of us choose to fight the evil that is on here.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

I make no claims to being a "scholar", but Matthew 21:12 and Mark 11:15. Jesus was pissed because people were doing evil things in His Father's house. When being pissed (or "mean spirited") at evil, it must not be a sin.

IOW, you gotta take a stand somewhere. Some of us choose to fight the evil that is on here.

Sure. But this isn’t a case where one person is just and another one is wicked. It’s two different mindsets trying to tackle the same problem. Sam isn’t evil for advocating for immigrants. You’re also not evil for wanting them to apply for immigration status in their own country and waiting for the process.