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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Politics has replaced religion in many people's lives. Plus, it's like aggressively conservative religion, i.e., you have to convert to my thinking or you're a lost soul that I can't associate with. Normal, everyday people I find are more left of center on some issues, right of center on others and, on some issues, DGAF which, in my book, is wonderful. Somewhere along the line, we lost the right to not care about a particular issue. For the hardcore political believers on both sides, that's unacceptable and you MUST take a firm stand or, again, you're a lost soul that has to be shunned.

It sucks, imo.
You're grossly oversimplifying the situation. "Normal, everyday people" WERE just minding their own business and living their lives. Work a middle-class job for 40 years and retire to the beach house. Baseball, apple pie, hard wood floors and a grill out back. Smile at the neighbors and stop by for coffee. The freedom to enjoy their lives in peace and dignity and not give a shit about what's going on in the world.

What happened was, the freaks from the 60s took charge of the country and effed everything up and tried to take everyone's freedoms and steal our children's future. And they don't quit. They want this place overrun with uneducated refugees from substandard cultures. They want to mutilate your kids and force them to become trannies. They want to steal your money and give it to themselves in the form of laundered taxes. They want to put anyone who disagrees with them in prison or shoot them.

So now we have a pitched battle for the very soul of what is essential to America: personal liberty. You think the Amish wanted to get involved in this election? Hell no. They are the most A-political group in history. They just churn butter and mind their own business. But the government EFFED with them. They raided one of their farms on some bullshit pretext. So they said, "I guess we gotta get in this fight." There will always be people trying to step on others. America is the last, final stand where people can stand up and say, "not today bitch." And it's a very close call right now. It's literally 50-50 whether America becomes a communist country. Think about that.

We've got four more years to try to stem the tide of evil. But at some point a Democommie is going to win another election and that'll be it. So many people who otherwise were unengaged are recognizing it's time to crap or get off the pot. Maybe you personally don't give a shit right now, but at some point they'll come after something YOU care about, just like they did the Amish. That's when you'll realize you're wrong to be so casual about it. You'd best pick a side and load up because otherwise you'll get caught in the crossfire and war doesn't tiptoe around collateral damage.
 
To add, I’ll slow down my posting and quit responding to each reply. I am just trying to get a perspective. I know it’s all hypothetical, but I’d like to see a summary of what you guys expect to happen:

Immediately
6 month into tenure
2 years
Immediately:

1) Systematically dismantle every single one of Biden’s executive orders

2) Secure the border

3) Drill baby, drill!!!

4) Hit the ground running on identifying, locating & deporting the worst of the criminal illegal immigrants

5) Using laws currently on the books…prosecute to the fullest extent of the law any citizens, including government officials, that obstruct the federal agents implementing #4 above

6) Set up several housing/deportation centers in sanctuary cities including in Rehoboth Beach, DE & Wilmington, DE for other illegal immigrants from across the country until they can be processed and deported

7) Blow everyone’s mind with a pardon for Hunter Biden. But only under the following conditions: weekly drug tests and lifetime probation. If he fails one drug test or breaks any other law then he must serve the maximum sentence on his current case which is 17 years…without the possibility of parole

8) No more billions to Ukraine

9) Several rounds of golf

I feel like Trump can get all of that done in the first 100 days including the inevitable incarceration of Hunter Biden for breaking the conditions of his executive pardon.


At the 2 year mark:
- Take the DOGE recs and weed out whatever waste & dead weight that hasn’t already been trimmed
- I fully expect the term “sanctuary city” to be completely eradicated from the English language by year 2

4 year mark:
- celebrate JD Vance’s landslide victory as the 48th POTUS
 
You're grossly oversimplifying the situation. "Normal, everyday people" WERE just minding their own business and living their lives. Work a middle-class job for 40 years and retire to the beach house. Baseball, apple pie, hard wood floors and a grill out back. Smile at the neighbors and stop by for coffee. The freedom to enjoy their lives in peace and dignity and not give a shit about what's going on in the world.

What happened was, the freaks from the 60s took charge of the country and effed everything up and tried to take everyone's freedoms and steal our children's future. And they don't quit. They want this place overrun with uneducated refugees from substandard cultures. They want to mutilate your kids and force them to become trannies. They want to steal your money and give it to themselves in the form of laundered taxes. They want to put anyone who disagrees with them in prison or shoot them.

So now we have a pitched battle for the very soul of what is essential to America: personal liberty. You think the Amish wanted to get involved in this election? Hell no. They are the most A-political group in history. They just churn butter and mind their own business. But the government EFFED with them. They raided one of their farms on some bullshit pretext. So they said, "I guess we gotta get in this fight." There will always be people trying to step on others. America is the last, final stand where people can stand up and say, "not today bitch." And it's a very close call right now. It's literally 50-50 whether America becomes a communist country. Think about that.

We've got four more years to try to stem the tide of evil. But at some point a Democommie is going to win another election and that'll be it. So many people who otherwise were unengaged are recognizing it's time to crap or get off the pot. Maybe you personally don't give a shit right now, but at some point they'll come after something YOU care about, just like they did the Amish. That's when you'll realize you're wrong to be so casual about it. You'd best pick a side and load up because otherwise you'll get caught in the crossfire and war doesn't tiptoe around collateral damage.
No offense, but you kinda just proved my point. On most issues, I'm conservative but not on ALL issues and certainly not reactionary right on all issues. And that is the problem. There is no middle ground for many people anymore. You're either 100% in agreement with me or you're my enemy (depending on the individual's viewpoint that means you're a fascist or a RINO). That ensures that 50% of the American people will be the 'enemy' for the party/philosophy in power. That's a horrible way to govern. Yes, the Dems have been more guilty of 'my way or the highway' thinking than the Pubs in my opinion. But, there is a small (hopefully) percentage of Far Right thinkers that are just as dangerous as the Far Left. Governing for either extreme is bad for the country. Yes, we've started down a bad road with open borders, out of control spending, identity politics, normalizing mental illness and sexual perversion, etc. But 'the sky is falling unless we eradicate these apostates' is not any better, imo.
 
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The government. especially the spooks will abuse every single inch and take a mile. With communications being shifted to overseas communication points and back to the US so they can say the "email" came from overseas....eff the spooks. What was intended for over seas terrorists quickly morphed into spying on American citizens on our soil. End it now.
 
Immediately:

1) Systematically dismantle every single one of Biden’s executive orders

2) Secure the border

3) Drill baby, drill!!!

4) Hit the ground running on identifying, locating & deporting the worst of the criminal illegal immigrants

5) Using laws currently on the books…prosecute to the fullest extent of the law any citizens, including government officials, that obstruct the federal agents implementing #4 above

6) Set up several housing/deportation centers in sanctuary cities including in Rehoboth Beach, DE & Wilmington, DE for other illegal immigrants from across the country until they can be processed and deported

7) Blow everyone’s mind with a pardon for Hunter Biden. But only under the following conditions: weekly drug tests and lifetime probation. If he fails one drug test or breaks any other law then he must serve the maximum sentence on his current case which is 17 years…without the possibility of parole

8) No more billions to Ukraine

9) Several rounds of golf

I feel like Trump can get all of that done in the first 100 days including the inevitable incarceration of Hunter Biden for breaking the conditions of his executive pardon.


At the 2 year mark:
- Take the DOGE recs and weed out whatever waste & dead weight that hasn’t already been trimmed
- I fully expect the term “sanctuary city” to be completely eradicated from the English language by year 2

4 year mark:
- celebrate JD Vance’s landslide victory as the 48th POTUS

Thank you for articulating all of this. Like I said, I am going glass half full approach this go-around. Obviously big thing for me will be economy, so if I have a few more nickels in my bank each month, will definitely consider the GOP again in the future.
No offense, but you kinda just proved my point. On most issues, I'm conservative but not on ALL issues and certainly not reactionary right on all issues. And that is the problem. There is no middle ground for many people anymore. You're either 100% in agreement with me or you're my enemy (depending on the individual's viewpoint that means you're a fascist or a RINO). That ensures that 50% of the American people will be the 'enemy' for the party/philosophy in power. That's a horrible way to govern. Yes, the Dems have been more guilty of 'my way or the highway' thinking than the Pubs in my opinion. But, there is a small (hopefully) percentage of Far Right thinkers that are just as dangerous as the Far Left. Governing for either extreme is bad for the country. Yes, we've started down a bad road with open borders, out of control spending, identity politics, normalizing mental illness and sexual perversion, etc. But 'the sky is falling unless we eradicate these apostates' is not any better, imo.

Honestly, that's why I got back into forums. I have a twitter, but conversations just don't go anywhere there and reddit is a left leaning echo chamber. I still view those places, but I am trying to broaden my news scope to understand both sides better. Some people here have been really engaging, some have quickly placed me on ignore and will continue to be blissfully unaware of my POV. To each their own, I guess.
 
You're grossly oversimplifying the situation. "Normal, everyday people" WERE just minding their own business and living their lives. Work a middle-class job for 40 years and retire to the beach house. Baseball, apple pie, hard wood floors and a grill out back. Smile at the neighbors and stop by for coffee. The freedom to enjoy their lives in peace and dignity and not give a shit about what's going on in the world.

What happened was, the freaks from the 60s took charge of the country and effed everything up and tried to take everyone's freedoms and steal our children's future. And they don't quit. They want this place overrun with uneducated refugees from substandard cultures. They want to mutilate your kids and force them to become trannies. They want to steal your money and give it to themselves in the form of laundered taxes. They want to put anyone who disagrees with them in prison or shoot them.

So now we have a pitched battle for the very soul of what is essential to America: personal liberty. You think the Amish wanted to get involved in this election? Hell no. They are the most A-political group in history. They just churn butter and mind their own business. But the government EFFED with them. They raided one of their farms on some bullshit pretext. So they said, "I guess we gotta get in this fight." There will always be people trying to step on others. America is the last, final stand where people can stand up and say, "not today bitch." And it's a very close call right now. It's literally 50-50 whether America becomes a communist country. Think about that.

We've got four more years to try to stem the tide of evil. But at some point a Democommie is going to win another election and that'll be it. So many people who otherwise were unengaged are recognizing it's time to crap or get off the pot. Maybe you personally don't give a shit right now, but at some point they'll come after something YOU care about, just like they did the Amish. That's when you'll realize you're wrong to be so casual about it. You'd best pick a side and load up because otherwise you'll get caught in the crossfire and war doesn't tiptoe around collateral damage.
I know and do business with quite a few Amish and know their families. I somewhat agree because I know some who do not vote, for religious reasons. But that is up to their particular community "leader." Their "head minister." That doesnt mean that they are unaware of politics. They are and I never met an Amish who is not conservative and pro-47. I also do know some who vote. Some were told that they MUST vote. Anyway it made a huge difference in PA. I will also note that my conversations are with the males. Although I do know and have brief conversations with the females, wives, etc... they are not as open to speaking with a male "English."

Wonderful people. I would trust them with absolutely anything.
 
I know and do business with quite a few Amish and know their families. I somewhat agree because I know some who do not vote, for religious reasons. But that is up to their particular community "leader." Their "head minister." That doesnt mean that they are unaware of politics. They are and I never met an Amish who is not conservative and pro-47. I also do know some who vote. Some were told that they MUST vote. Anyway it made a huge difference in PA. I will also note that my conversations are with the males. Although I do know and have brief conversations with the females, wives, etc... they are not as open to speaking with a male "English."

Wonderful people. I would trust them with absolutely anything.
Wayne county has seen a massive growth of Amish. There's at least 4 new families that have moved onto my dad's road in the past few years. My dad worked for RECC for years and now does some independent work and he was talking about the nuances of their communities. A few guys down here will be moving to Indiana in short time to begin building families up there.
 
No offense, but you kinda just proved my point. On most issues, I'm conservative but not on ALL issues and certainly not reactionary right on all issues. And that is the problem. There is no middle ground for many people anymore. You're either 100% in agreement with me or you're my enemy (depending on the individual's viewpoint that means you're a fascist or a RINO). That ensures that 50% of the American people will be the 'enemy' for the party/philosophy in power. That's a horrible way to govern. Yes, the Dems have been more guilty of 'my way or the highway' thinking than the Pubs in my opinion. But, there is a small (hopefully) percentage of Far Right thinkers that are just as dangerous as the Far Left. Governing for either extreme is bad for the country. Yes, we've started down a bad road with open borders, out of control spending, identity politics, normalizing mental illness and sexual perversion, etc. But 'the sky is falling unless we eradicate these apostates' is not any better, imo.
Someone asked me about that in 2012. He asked why things were getting so heated and i responded that, for many issues, there is no more room for compromise. It either is or isn't at this point (either the border is secure, or it isn't ... either little Timmy is Tammy or he isn't). And when you push people like that, esp when these things worked for hundreds of years, expect pushback.
 
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Sometimes people on the right really embarrass me. Or I just completely disagree with them. Tom Homan is making a big deal of a leftist senator wanting to join Canada. As my understanding of the nation goes, if New York wants to leave the Union they have that right. Forcing people to stay in the Union is wrong. We need to keep this in mind as 100 years of illegal elections and illegal voters is about the subject us to leftist rule for a century. And I sure as hell want to be able to go then.

Without compromise, there's no Union. And there is very little compromise today. We are a divided Nation.
 
Sometimes people on the right really embarrass me. Or I just completely disagree with them. Tom Homan is making a big deal of a leftist senator wanting to join Canada. As my understanding of the nation goes, if New York wants to leave the Union they have that right. Forcing people to stay in the Union is wrong. We need to keep this in mind as 100 years of illegal elections and illegal voters is about the subject us to leftist rule for a century. And I sure as hell want to be able to go then.

Without compromise, there's no Union. And there is very little compromise today. We are a divided Nation.
The problem with compromise is that it leaves everyone dissatisfied. I think for us to get back to being able to coexist, both sides are going to have to relent on certain policies, but which ones? I'm just not sure if large groups can wholly get on board with this again, especially when we have politicians (on both sides) that promise the world.
 
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
😊
meathead is a broken man. thank you President Trump
 
It sure wasn't believable.... On this occasion...
Actually, it's very true. But I am not going to worry who thinks it's true or not, lol. It actually was never about whether it was true or not. It was a bait attempt that fell flat on its face like all the other ones. I was outside watering in some new Wax Myrtles and she walked down the street as always. She's made fun of Trump right to my face before so why wouldn't I have some fun back at her?

Bye now. I'm going to taste some Bourbon Pecan Pie to see if it's real or if I made it up. 🤣
 
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Immediately:

1) Systematically dismantle every single one of Biden’s executive orders

2) Secure the border

3) Drill baby, drill!!!

4) Hit the ground running on identifying, locating & deporting the worst of the criminal illegal immigrants

5) Using laws currently on the books…prosecute to the fullest extent of the law any citizens, including government officials, that obstruct the federal agents implementing #4 above

6) Set up several housing/deportation centers in sanctuary cities including in Rehoboth Beach, DE & Wilmington, DE for other illegal immigrants from across the country until they can be processed and deported

7) Blow everyone’s mind with a pardon for Hunter Biden. But only under the following conditions: weekly drug tests and lifetime probation. If he fails one drug test or breaks any other law then he must serve the maximum sentence on his current case which is 17 years…without the possibility of parole

8) No more billions to Ukraine

9) Several rounds of golf

I feel like Trump can get all of that done in the first 100 days including the inevitable incarceration of Hunter Biden for breaking the conditions of his executive pardon.


At the 2 year mark:
- Take the DOGE recs and weed out whatever waste & dead weight that hasn’t already been trimmed
- I fully expect the term “sanctuary city” to be completely eradicated from the English language by year 2

4 year mark:
- celebrate JD Vance’s landslide victory as the 48th POTUS

Too slow.....
 
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Immediately:

1) Systematically dismantle every single one of Biden’s executive orders

2) Secure the border

3) Drill baby, drill!!!

4) Hit the ground running on identifying, locating & deporting the worst of the criminal illegal immigrants

5) Using laws currently on the books…prosecute to the fullest extent of the law any citizens, including government officials, that obstruct the federal agents implementing #4 above

6) Set up several housing/deportation centers in sanctuary cities including in Rehoboth Beach, DE & Wilmington, DE for other illegal immigrants from across the country until they can be processed and deported

7) Blow everyone’s mind with a pardon for Hunter Biden. But only under the following conditions: weekly drug tests and lifetime probation. If he fails one drug test or breaks any other law then he must serve the maximum sentence on his current case which is 17 years…without the possibility of parole

8) No more billions to Ukraine

9) Several rounds of golf

I feel like Trump can get all of that done in the first 100 days including the inevitable incarceration of Hunter Biden for breaking the conditions of his executive pardon.


At the 2 year mark:
- Take the DOGE recs and weed out whatever waste & dead weight that hasn’t already been trimmed
- I fully expect the term “sanctuary city” to be completely eradicated from the English language by year 2

4 year mark:
- celebrate JD Vance’s landslide victory as the 48th POTUS
Immediately: Pardon ALL J6 defendants and FACE Act convictions on DAY ONE. Offer them ALL settlements of $5M for wrongful prosecution and close the books on the whole thing. Fire the entire FBI and start over. Decide if we really need an FBI, most states have their own investigative bureaus anyway. Fire the entire DOJ and start over. Rehire after full vetting of employees. Send weapons to Israel and tell Iran they've got 15 days to prepare for an inspection of their nuke facilities or else. Tell Zelensky his gravy train just dried up and sit down with him and Putin and hammer out a peace agreement. Sit down with China and tell them the jig's up. Time for MASSIVE tariffs on day one.

RELEASE THE JFK FILES. RELEASE THE EPSTEIN CLIENT LIST. RELEASE THE CONGRESSIONAL SEXUAL HARASSMENT SETTLEMENT LIST.

6 months: Prosecute Liz Cheney and all the J6 panel members for wrongful prosecution and obstruction of justice. Give the major networks 90 days to get their shit together or they lose their broadcast licenses. Prosecute and disbar Jack Smith. Prosecute Vindman. Deport Soros and shut down his company. Investigate allegations of money laundering of Ukraine funds. Prosecute EVERY Democrat and Republican involved. Pass a national voter ID bill. Build the wall.
 
No offense, but you kinda just proved my point. On most issues, I'm conservative but not on ALL issues and certainly not reactionary right on all issues. And that is the problem. There is no middle ground for many people anymore. You're either 100% in agreement with me or you're my enemy (depending on the individual's viewpoint that means you're a fascist or a RINO). That ensures that 50% of the American people will be the 'enemy' for the party/philosophy in power. That's a horrible way to govern. Yes, the Dems have been more guilty of 'my way or the highway' thinking than the Pubs in my opinion. But, there is a small (hopefully) percentage of Far Right thinkers that are just as dangerous as the Far Left. Governing for either extreme is bad for the country. Yes, we've started down a bad road with open borders, out of control spending, identity politics, normalizing mental illness and sexual perversion, etc. But 'the sky is falling unless we eradicate these apostates' is not any better, imo.
BS. You're the one proving MY point, because you have ZERO room to see my point of view. You're just sugarcoating everything and you have no desire to see what's really going on.

You don't get it. There is no more room for compromise. You didn't even bother to read what I wrote. The country is no longer a place to live in peace BECAUSE of all the compromises. "Started down a bad road" - that's sugarcoating in the extreme. We haven't STARTED down a bad road. We are at the END OF THE ROAD.

Dude.

People can't afford to buy groceries or buy houses. Illegals are ALREADY murdering, raping, eating people's pets. Running amok in the streets. The compromise was in the 1960s when we started bringing them in a million at a time. People are afraid to come out of their houses NOW.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

 
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Immediately:

1) Systematically dismantle every single one of Biden’s executive orders

2) Secure the border

3) Drill baby, drill!!!

4) Hit the ground running on identifying, locating & deporting the worst of the criminal illegal immigrants

5) Using laws currently on the books…prosecute to the fullest extent of the law any citizens, including government officials, that obstruct the federal agents implementing #4 above

6) Set up several housing/deportation centers in sanctuary cities including in Rehoboth Beach, DE & Wilmington, DE for other illegal immigrants from across the country until they can be processed and deported

7) Blow everyone’s mind with a pardon for Hunter Biden. But only under the following conditions: weekly drug tests and lifetime probation. If he fails one drug test or breaks any other law then he must serve the maximum sentence on his current case which is 17 years…without the possibility of parole

8) No more billions to Ukraine

9) Several rounds of golf

I feel like Trump can get all of that done in the first 100 days including the inevitable incarceration of Hunter Biden for breaking the conditions of his executive pardon.


At the 2 year mark:
- Take the DOGE recs and weed out whatever waste & dead weight that hasn’t already been trimmed
- I fully expect the term “sanctuary city” to be completely eradicated from the English language by year 2

4 year mark:
- celebrate JD Vance’s landslide victory as the 48th POTUS
I’ll add one more important one: by executive order, cut off any and all funding from the federal level that supports illegals, and cut off any federal money to any municipalities that support illegals. Make it impossible to live in this country as an illegal alien.
 
It makes no sense that there's not a universal method for this considering it affects all of us. No way should elections for congress and the presidency have states with no boundaries at all. California being allowed a month is insane.
Also have to correct the census. California probably has several representatives they don’t deserve due to the counting of illegals.
 
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