POLITICAL THREAD

[LineSkiCat14]

When have I EVER defended the Floyd or BLM riots? Never have....Never will.
Peaceful protests yes. Riots no.
Don't remember what Fauci said but I stayed away from big crowds until I was vaccinated.
Those riots were stupid gatherings as were the dumbazz Trump rallies.

That last line is interesting to hear, and I'm curious if you truly feel this way.. because if so, you'd be the first lib I've come across who thinks THOSE riots were as bad (if not worse) than Jan 6th. So far, they all looked the other way as cities burned that summer.. but it was the Jan 6th riot that made them finally come around. Weird how that works, huh?

I personally think Jan 6th was dumb. I don't really condone anything more than peaceful protest.. but it was mind numbing to see people just shrug at the riots all these years in inner cities, but it was Jan 6th that made them weep for our nation..

 

[hmt5000]

He was just a lawyer... Do you do a background check on every lawyer you've hired or do you expect their oath and title to keep them somewhat honest?

New York I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the constitution of the United States, and the constitution of the State of New York, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of [attorney and counselor-at-law], according to the best of my ability.

Pretty sure this is the oath you take in NY on passing the bar.

 

[Lost In FL]

I've been away for a few days so I haven't gone back to review the dozens of pages of folks calling Dion a moron, pedophile, etc.

However, I did see an article just a few days ago that more and more communities are reporting that charging stations are being robbed for their copper wire, thus leaving them inoperable. Plus, the cost to repair those stations is not insignificant. Especially, if they get ripped off again. Tell me again how 100% EVs are the answer.

BTW, Dion is a moron, pedophile, etc.

 

[hmt5000]

 

[hmt5000]

Arguing about why a company has gone bankrupt instead of realizing how many businesses in the US are having to cut fat and shrink to stay in business.... That is Joe Bidens America.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

Whatever dude. There are 50 other quotes from him and other Founding Fathers I have cited that you chose to ignore because it blows your argument out of the water.
Are his actual letters located in the Library of Congress good enough for you?? 🤣🤣🤣

James Madison on Separation of Church and State - Creating the United States | Exhibitions - Library of Congress

Transcription of an object within the Creating the United States exhibition.

www.loc.gov

Religion and the Federal Government, Part 1 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

The Constitution of the United States said little about religion. Congress adopted the First Amendment to the Constitution, which when ratified in 1791, forbade Congress to make any law

www.loc.gov

According to The Congressional Register Madison, on June 8, moved that "the civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext infringed."

"I have no doubt that every new example, will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions66.html

My argument has been one thing. Your separation quote is made up. So I dont care to investigate the others because that is immaterial.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Yup. That's why they specifically didn't approve his proposal. He was in the minority with that opinion.

What do you mean?, “thats why specifically”

Theres a few documented reasons why and none that have to do with a hostility towards the act of prayer itself. Money for hiring a clergy (Franklins motion) was an issue, concern of creating panic and fear among the colonists, and many prayer groups and meetings were already taking place so there was a sense of redundancy with the request when time would be better spent on the meat and potatoes of why they were there.

Regardless, my point is that Sams “theocratic” boogeymen have been around since this country’s inception. Biblical influence is all over the DC. Hardly a new development among today’s Republicans.

 

[sambowieshin]

My argument has been one thing. Your separation quote is made up. So I dont care to investigate the others because that is immaterial.

What about Dear Leader's latest social media post? Just another innocent little mistake from an honest man right?
The White Power video was just an oopsie.
Stand back, and stand by for Proud Boys was just a misspeak.
Lotta good people on both sides meant nothing right?
Just a coincidink white supremacists flocked to DC on Jan 6th.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/21/politics/trump-unified-reich-video/index.html

Trump's social media account shares a campaign video with a headline about a 'unified Reich'

The headline appears among messages flashing across the screen such as “Trump wins!!” and “Economy booms!” Other headlines appear to be references to World War I.

apnews.com

 

[trueblujr2]

Dershowitz (Democrat, doesn’t like Trump)

Sat in on the trial: “This is the most unfair trial Ive seen in my 60 years of practicing and teaching”.

It’s the literal definition of a kangaroo court.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[trueblujr2]

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Arguing about why a company has gone bankrupt instead of realizing how many businesses in the US are having to cut fat and shrink to stay in business.... That is Joe Bidens America.

Weeeellll. Wouldyalookatthat.. a restaurant not owning the land they sit on. Gee I seem to recall a lengthy discussion on that very topic.

 

[sambowieshin]

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Arguing about why a company has gone bankrupt instead of realizing how many businesses in the US are having to cut fat and shrink to stay in business.... That is Joe Bidens America.

Yeah....Joe Biden's America....
Sucks to have low unemployment, record small business growth, record stock market growth and inflation going down. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

New business applications are booming. Track them by state.

Our interactive map lets you explore the latest data on the surge in entrepreneurship in each state and county across the country.

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Business boom: Record numbers of people are starting up new small businesses

NEW YORK (AP) — Record numbers of people are starting new businesses, and more and more of them are women and minorities, according to a new study.

www.columbian.com

https://thehill.com/business/4561631-corporate-hit-record-high-as-economy-boomed-in-fourth-quarter-of-2023/

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/21/manufacturing-job-boom-semiconductor-renewable-energy

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[sambowieshin]

You would’ve hated Franklin during the Convention calling for daily prayer before every assembly to guide them.

Yes, some of the Founding Fathers were religious men...but many of the most influencial were not overly religious and were very opposed to the intersection of government and religion.
That seems to be a fact lost on many of the theocracy fans in the modern Republican Party.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[sambowieshin]

It’s the literal definition of a kangaroo court.

Poor Trump needs to write a book about his struggles....Maybe call it Mein Kampf 2.0? 🤬

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/21/politics/trump-unified-reich-video/index.html

 

[sambowieshin]

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Good. Get those gas prices down baby!!

 

[sambowieshin]

Weeeellll. Wouldyalookatthat.. a restaurant not owning the land they sit on. Gee I seem to recall a lengthy discussion on that very topic.

The discussion was specifically about Publix grocery store....not every store in America.

 

[55wildcat]

 

[WTF Cat]

Dems: Nobody is above the law!!

What about Hunter Biden? What about Joe Biden with documents in his garage that VP’s aren’t even allowed to have??

Dems: Meh.

"Hypocrite" is the middle name of every Democrat

 

[screwduke1]

He is such a gross POS

 

[BlueRunner11]

Yes, some of the Founding Fathers were religious men...but many of the most influencial were not overly religious and were very opposed to the intersection of government and religion.
That seems to be a fact lost on many of the theocracy fans in the modern Republican Party.

It was a peculiar motion proposed by a Deist. Pretty obvious he saw it not as a threat even if “prayer” was not something he likely practiced himself. Christianity wasn’t offensive then to most because even men that did not claim it or practice it, often presented morals and values that aligned well with it and saw its usefulness for society.

We don’t have that as much today. Most of the culture is in direct confrontation with it.

Liberals go on and on about the separation between c/s but mostly we already have that, its the infuence or people of faith speaking and voting their conscience that todays left wants to eradicate from the public square which was never the Founders intention.

That being said, imo the “Church” has no business participating in politics, that’s not the mission of the Church and whatever type of gov (good or bad) that we have will have no bearing on the Kingdom to come. But as a civic duty, a Christian should vote, be vocal, and support causes according to those personal convictions. Like it or not.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[hmt5000]

Seeing that Ron Desantis was notified of the raid on Mar a Lago and sent a text to Garlard... Thanks for the heads up... That right there is why Ron lost the primary so bad. He served up an ally to benefit himself and it's even more clear now that the entire case was fraudulent. Ron should have told Garland that feds can't role over FL citizens for political reasons.

 

[sambowieshin]

It was a peculiar motion proposed by a Deist. Pretty obvious he saw it not as a threat even if “prayer” was not something he likely practiced himself. Christianity wasn’t offensive then to most because even men that did not claim it or practice it, often presented morals and values that aligned well with it and saw its usefulness for society.

We don’t have that as much today. Most of the culture is in direct confrontation with it.

Liberals go on and on about the separation between c/s but mostly we already have that, its the infuence or people of faith speaking and voting their conscience that todays left wants to eradicate from the public square which was never the Founders intention.

That being said, imo the “Church” has no business participating in politics, that’s not the mission of the Church and whatever type of gov (good or bad) that we have will have no bearing on the Kingdom to come. But as a civic duty, a Christian should vote, be vocal, and support causes according to those personal convictions. Like it or not.

I agree with the majority of your post. But when the leading Republican Presidential candidate is selling 60 dollar Bibles to pay for court cases involving porn stars.....The line between church/state is in a place the Founding Fathers probably never imagined.

 

[JumperJack]

I agree with the majority of your post. But when the leading Republican Presidential candidate is selling 60 dollar Bibles to pay for court cases involving porn stars.....The line between church/state is in a place the Founding Fathers probably never imagined.

The gap between church and state has never been wider and the country has turned to shit.

You can’t see the forest for the tree that you’re obsessed with.

 

[sambowieshin]

The gap between church and state has never been wider and the country has turned to shit.

You can’t see the forest for the tree that you’re obsessed with.

The abortion laws that make no exceptions for rape or incest and Lauren Boebert say hi.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

This Trump trial is not the moment that we can't recover from...the Russia nonsense while he was president and the weaponizing of the FBI...that was the end of any pretense of the rule of law. My whole life every Republican was portrayed as the devil by the media. And the next one was worse than the one before him.

George W. was worse than Reagan, Romney and Paul Ryan were going to kill your grandmother....Trump was Hitler. Do you remember that small moment in time that everyone assumed that Trump's political career was over and the media thought Desantis was going to be the next Republican that would run for President? There was articles saying he was far more dangerous than Trump.

They are not going to stop this sh-t. They will do this again. It isn't just Kavanaugh or Trump, everybody they don't like will put on trial. That is the new normal.

 

[BlueRunner11]

I agree with the majority of your post. But when the leading Republican Presidential candidate is selling 60 dollar Bibles to pay for court cases involving porn stars.....The line between church/state is in a place the Founding Fathers probably never imagined.

I agree with you on this. There’s not many things more cringe than Trumps routine usage of the Bible as a political prop not to mention likely violating the Third Commandment in doing so.

 

[BlueRunner11]

The abortion laws that make no exceptions for rape or incest and Lauren Boebert say hi.

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You know as well as I do, the majority of pro choice advocates want it used as a method of birth control, that is all.

There are plenty of secular reasons to be against abortion. This isn’t a separation of church/state issue. It’s advantageous for your side to make it solely about that and the reason why is pretty obvious.

 

[BlueRunner11]

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Funny, I didn’t see any of these college students across the country making all these threats towards the Jews wearing MAGA hats.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Not Sam's post, the idiotic screencap from reddit. They're arguing over fake propaganda trolling like it's real. It isn't. I would say Musk should know better, but by this point everyone realizes he doesn't.

 

[ukalumni00]

They will find Trump guilty. Take it to the bank that anyone on the jury who is on the fence or is a not guilty vote will be made sure to fall in line.

 

[Lost In FL]

Four Years Late, Collins Stumbles Into Some Truth

The NIH keeps admitting that its draconian COVID measures were arbitrary and hopes we won't notice.

patriotpost.us

In other words, the men whose job it was to steward public health during a pandemic are essentially now saying that their guidance was the same as a teenage boy’s — it seemed like a good idea at the time.

It's just "science", dude...

 

[Lost In FL]

The Justice Department will ask U.S. District Judge Janis Sammartino to dismiss its bribery and conspiracy case against former Navy Captain Steve Shedd today. This request comes even though Shedd admitted on the witness stand in a related trial that he repeatedly lied to federal agents and that he is a "traitor to the United States" who "deserves prison." So why is the DOJ asking for the case to be dropped? The answer is tied to the DOJ's mishandling of several cases related to a 350-pound Malaysian defense contractor named Leonard Glenn Francis, who has been dubbed "Fat Leonard." To prosecute Leonard for a bribery scheme to secure lucrative contracts, the DOJ engaged in prosecutorial misconduct both in withholding information favorable to the defense and in introducing flawed evidence. Therefore, despite Shedd and three other retired Navy officers having pleaded guilty to taking bribes from Leonard, the cases against them are falling apart due to "flagrant and outrageous" misconduct by DOJ prosecutors.

 

[Lost In FL]

A member of the Democrat party in the House is funding terrorists.

Rashida Tlaib has paid $435,000 to firm of anti-Israel activist for terrorism-tied groups - Washington Examiner

Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) has paid $435,000 to a firm led by an anti-Israel activist working on behalf of Palestinian terrorism-linked groups.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Lost In FL]

Shocker: Reuters Discovers Trump's Super-Secret Plan to 'Control the Department of Justice'

hotair.com

His "super secret plan"? Win an election...

 

[sambowieshin]

You know as well as I do, the majority of pro choice advocates want it used as a method of birth control, that is all.

There are plenty of secular reasons to be against abortion. This isn’t a separation of church/state issue. It’s advantageous for your side to make it solely about that and the reason why is pretty obvious.

There is NOTHING secular about abortion laws that make no exceptions for rape/incest. That is purely religious based ideology.
If you were talking merely abortion laws that had limits like 12 weeks with exceptions....I could see your point of view that it crosses over into the secular world. The vast majority of ALL Americans are opposed to late term abortion regardless of religious ideology....But laws that line up neatly with Catholic Church doctrine and Bible stories of a father named Lot being raped by daughters after getting him drunk???
NOPE. Rape, incest and Church doctrine all rolled into one law.
That is just whacked out religious based laws imo.

 

[cole854]

The vast majority of ALL Americans are opposed to late term abortion r

So is it a vast majority, or is it all?

The correct phrase would be the majority of democrats turn a blind eye to late term abortion.

 

[blubo]

this government cares more about border invaders than it’s own citizens.

Biden administration sues Oklahoma over new law allowing arrest of illegal migrants

The new law against “impermissible occupation” goes into effect July 1.

nypost.com

 

[blubo]

😂
“surging to biden”