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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
When people (and I mean you Kopi) jump into a conversation between two people and make a remark that is completely irrelevant to the conversation...you look pretty stupid.
Nobody was talking about how the electoral college worked out in a particular election. The discussion was about how independent voters ultimately come down on one side or the other.


Wait. You're getting on Kopi when you stated 20 states don't hold requirements for voter registration, yet that doesn't have anything to do with if a voter is actually registered in those 20 states.

You're getting on him for that? hahaha
 
Heart disease and Cancer will go up during a Hillary presidency. Is that what you people want?
 
Hillary is such a fraud. Wish someone would just punch her fake face till she admitted that she was a sham. Who cares if she is under duress. I wish someone would smack the smug off her face,
 
So Kasich finishes behind Carson in Minnesota. I don't think that whole Midwestern thing is working for him. All Kasich is doing is draining votes from Rubio, which is enabling Trump, which is electing Hillary....
 
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Fakey fake fake ahkbar hillary. I hope nothing but the worst for her. I hope Bill gives her geriatric AIDs. Bill looking like walking cancer plowing 60 yr old broads from a 55+ senior living. Eff him.
 
When people (and I mean you Kopi) jump into a conversation between two people and make a remark that is completely irrelevant to the conversation...you look pretty stupid.
Nobody was talking about how the electoral college worked out in a particular election. The discussion was about how independent voters ultimately come down on one side or the other.

I'm taking it you suffer regularly from muffin guilt.
 
So Kasich finishes behind Carson in Minnesota. I don't think that whole Midwestern thing is working for him. All Kasich is doing is draining votes from Rubio, which is enabling Trump, which is electing Hillary....

Very disappointing evening for Gov. K, indeed. But don't expect that plenty of Kasich's supporters won't also lean to Trump. Lot's of them. Most of them envision Kasich as a very likely running mate. So if not voting for Kasich in a primary, who else would they vote for? Somebody who is never going to be in a position to choose a running mate? Think about it.

Also, these RCP and other scenario polls that provide early 1 on 1 data aren't worth wiping your dog's ass with. Until the running mates are determined you won't be able to compare squat in this year's election cycle. Who will Hillary choose? Has the "media" helped the public think that one through yet? No. They don't want to. Maybe Michelle will accept. Maybe Uncle Joe will all over again. Maybe anybody. I see a lot of gorgeous sloppiness coming. They best they could do for a pair a candidates was a disgusting woman that has rode the tail of chance marriage and a tired old socialist.
 
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So who are the anti-Trump GOP voters going to vote for?

Evangelicals are jumping on Noah's Ark. hahaha

That's what I don't understand. You're ranting and bitching (not you, this group) about how awful he is but your other option is Hillary and the dessimation of the Republican Party.

What are the options at that point? 4 years of Trump and probably a reasonable VP and you get two conservatives on the Supreme Court or Hillary's insanity that has huge consequences.
 
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Very disappointing evening for Gov. K, indeed. But don't expect that plenty of Kasich's supporters won't also lean to Trump. Lot's of them. Most of them envision Kasich as a very likely running mate. So if not voting for Kasich in a primary, who else would they vote for? Somebody who is never going to be in a position to choose a running mate? Think about it.
Kasich has been campaigning in Michigan, not Minnesota (a caucus state). That campaign is so cash-strapped that it'd be suicide to waste money on a caucus race.

You can't extrapolate much, if anything, from Kasich's performance in Minnesota. Michigan is his Waterloo; nobody expected him to do well on Super Tuesday, nor did he have to.
 
That's what I don't understand. You're ranting and bitching (not you, this group) about how awful he is but your other option is Hillary and the dessimation of the Republican Party.

Totally agree. Here's the deal. Tonight is the first time I heard him speak. Yeah, he comes off as "elect me we'll figure it out" But ya know, it's effing Donald Trump and he has keys to the White House hahahaha, what the f*** do we care. The dude will be shuffling whores under neath the tunnels that lead straight to the Oval Office. Lucky bastard.
 
Kasich has been campaigning in Michigan, not Minnesota (a caucus state). That campaign is so cash-strapped that it'd be suicide to waste money on a caucus race.

You can't extrapolate much, if anything, from Kasich's performance in Minnesota. Michigan is his Waterloo; nobody expected him to do well on Super Tuesday, nor did he have to.

I actually expected him to win Vermont tonight. Somewhat disappointed.
 
I actually expected him to win Vermont tonight. Somewhat disappointed.
you guys do realize these states are awarding delegates proportionately, right? Trump and Kasich both got six delegates from VT (out of 12 total)
 
I actually expected him to win Vermont tonight. Somewhat disappointed.


Really? It appears there is a growing amount of Repubs voters who aren't buying the "oh shucks" Christian candidate. I mean, ya'll can keep trying to wondering why. But ya'll need to ride the ass of a fiscally conservative president who will reduce the federal administrative pay and programs across the board
 
delegate counts after tonight:

Trump - 268
Cruz - 142
Rubio - 78
Kasich - 24
Carson - 8

the large, winner-take-all primaries starting soon (everything thus far has been proportional except for SC):

15 March - Florida 99
15 March - Illinois 69
15 March - Missouri 52
15 March - Ohio 66
22 March - Arizona 58
5 April - Wisconsin 42
26 April - Maryland 38
26 April - Pennsylvania 71
3 May - Indiana 57
10 May - Nebraska 36
7 June - California 172
7 June - Montana 27
7 June - New Jersey 51
7 June - South Dakota 29
 
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Really? It appears there is a growing amount of Repubs voters who aren't buying the "oh shucks" Christian candidate. I mean, ya'll can keep trying to wondering why. But ya'll need to ride the ass of a fiscally conservative president who will reduce the federal administrative pay and programs across the board

No, it isn't that. Not for me anyway. I was hoping Kasich could produce specific voter numbers in VT to indicate more useful trend for him in particular. Plus, the fact that pundits wouldn't be able to say "he didn't win any states". Simplistic and shortsighted, certainly. and I don't give two ishes about his faith.
 
delegate counts after tonight:

Trump - 268
Cruz - 142
Rubio - 78
Kasich - 24
Carson - 8

the large, winner-take-all primaries starting soon (everything thus far has been proportional except for SC):

15 March - Florida 99
15 March - Illinois 69
15 March - Missouri 52
15 March - Ohio 66
22 March - Arizona 58
5 April - Wisconsin 42
26 April - Maryland 38
26 April - Pennsylvania 71
3 May - Indiana 57
10 May - Nebraska 36
7 June - California 172
7 June - Montana 27
7 June - New Jersey 51
7 June - South Dakota 29
updated total:

Trump 274
Crus 149
Rubio 82
Kasich 25
Carson 8
 
No, it isn't that. Not for me anyway. I was hoping Kasich could produce specific voter numbers in VT to indicate more useful trend for him in particular. Plus, the fact that pundits wouldn't be able to say "he didn't win any states". Simplistic and shortsighted, certainly. and I don't give two ishes about his faith.

Well, shits getting real brother.
 
Cruz has a rigid personality problem that makes him unlikable. Shame, guy is prolly the smartest, yet has the likeability of the flu.
 
Cruz has a rigid personality problem that makes him unlikable. Shame, guy is prolly the smartest, yet has the likeability of the flu.
power rankings of Cruz' features that make him unlikeable:

(1) His face
(2) His facial expressions
(3) His tone of voice
(4) His personality
(5) His melodrama
(6) His toothless grin

dude looks like Mrs Doubtfire in reverse drag
 
power rankings of Cruz' features that make him unlikeable:

(1) His face
(2) His facial expressions
(3) His tone of voice
(4) His personality
(5) His melodrama
(6) His toothless grin

dude looks like Mrs Doubtfire in reverse drag
[laughing]

I saw his speech tonight. If it was legal, I would punch him in the face.
 
Just got done watching Cruz dig his own grave. His "I will not compromise on..." is exactly what people are sick of. It may play well to the base but it won't play well to the independents. You can't win without appealing to independent voters.
It is not playing well with conservatives like me either. Independent....here I come. I have grown weary of the GOP and their establishment mentality.
 
Honestly, and like you, I live and work with many Hispanics, I see a 40/60 - 30/70 split for Trump. Texas is usually a bit different, largely because of the large Catholic-Hispanic base here. Heck, who knows? My former supervisor is pro-Trump, and she was born in Mexico. Go figure.
Perhaps those people came here for the American dream and have really pledged their allegiance. Those that scream and yell viva la Mexico or any other country while living here should simply go back to the countries they pledge their allegiance to. If those countries are so great, why migrate here? I mean that for everyone. I was born in Kentucky. My lineage is of Scottish, Irish, and Cherokee but, I am an American and do not pledge allegiance to any other country but this one. I have coworkers that say they are tired of this country and want to go back to the home of their lineage. When I ask them when was the last time they visited Wales (this is their fore fathers home) they say, " I haven't been there yet". My next question is, "How can you go back to somewhere you have never been?" They just scoff at me and walk off mumbling.
 
Wait. You're getting on Kopi when you stated 20 states don't hold requirements for voter registration, yet that doesn't have anything to do with if a voter is actually registered in those 20 states.

You're getting on him for that? hahaha
Willy, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

Yes, people register to vote. In 30 states you have the option to register with a party, in 20 you do not. None of that has anything to do with how people actually vote or if they consider themselves independent.
 
I'm pretty sure the GOP has no real desire to hold the presidency. Much easier task to just be an opposition party.

Way better for the right wing economy, for wackadoo republican politicians to see Hilary Clinton in office as opposed to one of theirs. They get to continue doing what they have done for the past 8 years.

You think they really want to change that? Obama is the best thing to happen to the GOP.
 
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Well, looks like he was right. (No matter how insulting.)
 
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Once you've decided you aren't going to vote for any of these assholes, it's truly amazing to take a step back and see the rationalizations people come up with to convince themselves to vote for someone.

Goddam we're screwed as a country.

Although Jamo's post with Lindsey Graham's reactions a couple pages ago has been the closest thing in this thread to getting me to actually vote for Trump.
 
Once you've decided you aren't going to vote for any of these assholes, it's truly amazing to take a step back and see the rationalizations people come up with to convince themselves to vote for someone.

Goddam we're screwed as a country.

Although Jamo's post with Lindsey Graham's reactions a couple pages ago has been the closest thing in this thread to getting me to actually vote for Trump.



I know. hahaha I'm doing the same thing
 
This is fake and was debunked.

Maybe, but does that make it wrong?

I'm not against a Trump, but Christ let's not pretend the guy is honest!

Let's just say he has never filed bankruptcy, and that he really would build a wall, and that he could kill every Muslim, and China will bow in his presence.........does anyone believe for a second he wouldn't say whatever he thought it took to get elected just like the rest of them?

I mean TV with him and Hiliary will be worth it no matter what, but I'd prefer that was a side show while a real election took place!
 
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