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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Let me lay this out for you. We'll start from step 1: There are 3 branches of government.

The judicial branch does not care about your feelings, they do not care about the majority or the minority..thats all irrelevant to their purpose. As much as democrats think it's a political mechanism to push through what they favor its not. If laws are bad or good it's irrelevant. Good/popular laws can be unconstitutional and bad laws can be constitutional. Their job is to apply laws to the constitution. They arent here to make policy, they wrent to decide an issue, they aret here to decide whats right or wrong. Let me know where the confusion is?

It just so happens Roe is unconstitutional, but it's also terrible law. Again, you have to remove your feelings and look at it from a legal standpoint. But to your point...the democrats have deeply abused the law for financial gain. Thats why the keep pushing for more and more abortions, later and later, there is no care about rights. If they would have just said 13 weeks unless it's life threatening or some circumstance it wouldve probably been left alone. Again, democrats blocked over the counter birth control...is that not a right to you? It always amazes me that anytime R's do something it's because of a lobby or something but when it's a democrat, ppl just assume it's because it's altruistic and they have such a big heart. Lol you think chuck schumer cares if you shit a baby in a dumpster? Anyway..so the judicial branch kicks it back to the ppl, who used their right to vote, so states can decide. That's called democracy...you hate that now insurrectionists?

Now, step 2. Good news for you. Theres a process thats built in! There's this thing called the legislative branch. It's their job to make bills. Since Roe is unconstitutional, they can make a bill, pass it, then send it to the third branch, called the executive branch, who van send it back to the judicial branch. Extra good news for you: democrats control both of these! There's nothing or no one saying that an abortion law can't be constitutional...Roe just happens NOT to be. So ppl getting "rights" taken away is nonsense...they have the right but one party isn't interested in reasonable and common sense (you not interested in that talking point anymore?) Your legislative branch is keeping them from this "right".

Abortion hasn't been banned...are you under the impression the scotus is a monarchy over you?
I agree with much of what you say from a technical standpoint but Roe being unconstitutional is debatable. Much of it's basis was on the belief in individual rights of privacy from government.
If the government can tell you what medical procedures you are or are not allowed to have it's pretty intrusive. That should be between you and your doctor IMO.
 
I agree with much of what you say from a technical standpoint but Roe being unconstitutional is debatable. Much of it's basis was on the belief in individual rights of privacy from government.
If the government can tell you what medical procedures you are or are not allowed to have it's pretty intrusive. That should be between you and your doctor IMO.
Including vaccine, Sam? Is it different with "Covid"?
 
The retarded lefties in that comment section are just the worst and the dumbest. “Show me proof that it’s not construction and for violence.” Someone links a police account from two years ago mentioning that pallets of bricks were arriving for riots and to report it. Lefty responds “history is not evidence for the future.@

Blue check “comedian” calls her an only fans model and says “it’s construction!” Then acts dense about a construction worker mentioning that construction companies do not just leave this stuff unattended to the public on a public street. Some lefty mocked the idea of protecting materials with security.

These people are clueless to reality. They’re in a bubble of bullshit.None of them know a GD thing that’s not spoon fed propaganda from their TV. If CNN or a Dem politician doesn’t say it, it didn’t happen.
 
Including vaccine, Sam? Is it different with "Covid"?
Pregnancy is not a communicable illness. No comparison except I do support an individual's right to refuse the vaccine. Their body...their choice.
Abortion is no longer a choice in some states now. Women have lost all control over their bodies in Ky.
Not only will they be raped but they will be forced to have the rapists baby.
No comparison at all to COVID vaccines. Not one person has been forced to get a vaccine by law.
 
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Tucker played a clip of Ana Navarro where she was citing her family members as a burden because of disabilities. Sammy would be proud.

By her own logic she should have been aborted bc she is in the 50ish iq range. She can’t understand why an explicit constitutional amendment right would be protected but something that isn’t addressed by that document and those laws isn’t? Where is this right of the uterus? You want to protect your uterus? Don’t put a life in it. But like Annie implies if someone can’t understand something so simple they should have been aborted
 
Pregnancy is not a communicable illness. No comparison except I do support an individual's right to refuse the vaccine. Their body...their choice.
Abortion is no longer a choice in some states now. Women have lost all control over their bodies in Ky.
Not only will they be raped but they will be forced to have the rapists baby.
No comparison at all to COVID vaccines. Not one person has been forced to get a vaccine by law.
A communicable illness, you say!

I don't give a rat's ass about a "communicable illness".
 
I voted against Trump for the policies and un Presidential behavior.
I am ate the fork up because of Jan 6th. If Obama had lied about election results, unleashed a mob on Congress, and tried to illegally overturn a free and fair election I would be ate up with him just as much as Trump.
Like I've said before...I'm ok with differences in policy. Those differences are settled by elections. Trump didn't believe in that and is dangerous as hell to our democracy.
Many of us are ate up because we can't believe that fellow Americans still believe his BS lies.
Man I don’t get you. You are just like the rest of us in nearly every respect but you have let them make you believe the Trump BS. He didn’t unleash a mob and you know it. You also know abortion is barbaric. We know more about it than we did in 1973. There’s no logical defense for it. Come on dude.
 
I agree with much of what you say from a technical standpoint but Roe being unconstitutional is debatable. Much of it's basis was on the belief in individual rights of privacy from government.
If the government can tell you what medical procedures you are or are not allowed to have it's pretty intrusive. That should be between you and your doctor IMO.
Again...like covid shots??!
 
Pregnancy is not a communicable illness. No comparison except I do support an individual's right to refuse the vaccine. Their body...their choice.
Abortion is no longer a choice in some states now. Women have lost all control over their bodies in Ky.
Not only will they be raped but they will be forced to have the rapists baby.
No comparison at all to COVID vaccines. Not one person has been forced to get a vaccine by law.
Sam. I remember clearly you saying I should lose my job for refusing the jab despite me exposing myself and willingly treating hundreds of Covid patients on the front lines.

Sorry but you libs can’t play the “my body my choice” card any longer.
 
Man I don’t get you. You are just like the rest of us in nearly every respect but you have let them make you believe the Trump BS. He didn’t unleash a mob and you know it. You also know abortion is barbaric. We know more about it than we did in 1973. There’s no logical defense for it. Come on dude.
Like I have said on here before....I am very conservative on many issues like you say (police, crime, taxes, military, welfare $$$, right to own most guns) but I just don't think the government has any business in our bodies, pants, doctor's office or bedroom.
 
Like I have said on here before....I am very conservative on many issues like you say (police, crime, taxes, military, welfare $$$) but I just don't think the government has any business in our bodies, pants, doctor's office or bedroom.
And, yet, when you wet the bed during the "pandemic", you showed who you truly are. "F" freedom when it's a "pandemic " you say? "F" YOU. My freedom doesn't end when your panic begins.
 
This is bs...my ex had two miscarriages and didn't happen.
Just because it didn't happen to your ex doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There was literally a tourist in Malta a few days ago who suffered a partial miscarriage and couldn't get to rest of the fetus removed because of Malta's abortion laws. She had to be emergency airlifted to Spain to have the procedure before she died. Pregnancy has A LOT of grey to it that black and white abortion bans just don't take into account.
 
And, yet, when you wet the bed during the "pandemic", you showed who you truly are. "F" freedom when it's a "pandemic " you say? "F" YOU. My freedom doesn't end when your panic begins.
What freedom have you permanently lost?? C'mon man.
Try being raped and forced into having your daddy's baby. That's losing your freedom.
 
What about the baby's choice?
The baby with an undeveloped brain, no vision, no hearing, no lungs and unable to live outside of the mother's body?
Doubt they'd have nearly as much to say as the 12 year old girl molested by her uncle and pregnant without even understanding what pregnant means.
 
The baby with an undeveloped brain, no vision, no hearing, no lungs and unable to live outside of the mother's body?

Sounds similar to a lot of people in ICUs these days. Guess we should just go room to room and pull all the plugs then right?

No we don’t do that, because their future isn’t dictated by their current condition. Just like a baby in the womb.
 
OK, who decides, & how, that a person should have the gun taken away? I mean on what basis should the Uvalde shooter have had his weapons seized? Or shouldn't he have because he LEGALLY owned them? Is there no basis until after they've at least threatened someone? Oh, thanks for the 12.9% of the time.
The kid had authorities called on him over 100 times and posted photos of dismembered kittens. He told people he was going to kill people. I think that is a good line to do a 30 day mental check. That's the problem with the red flag laws. They just take the guns and don't care about the mental health. A true crazy person will find a way to kill people. The only people that will pay for red flag laws are law abiding citizens that aren't a threat to anyone.
 
I know you didn't. But Trump is most obvious example. So I was explicit, you weren't. What the F is the problem? Sensitive are we? BTW, who is your better example of someone who lost money in office?

What's wrong with your criteria is that it's unconstitutional.
Nobody... that is the point. My thought when I posted that was Obama. He was worth less than $100000 when he was elected to the state Senate. He was worth about $200000 when he was elected to US Senate. Somehow... amazingly.... less than a year after leaving presidency.... He was worth over $100 million. Dude never did anything to earn his money but to sell his position.

And I didn't say a legal criteria. I was talking about what I'd want in a candidate. But you read that into it too. You keep finding more shit I didn't say.
 
The kid had authorities called on him over 100 times and posted photos of dismembered kittens. He told people he was going to kill people. I think that is a good line to do a 30 day mental check. That's the problem with the red flag laws. They just take the guns and don't care about the mental health. A true crazy person will find a way to kill people. The only people that will pay for red flag laws are law abiding citizens that aren't a threat to anyone.
Don't follow you're supposed logic.

I think, and I think you think, the guy should have been detained. That he wasn't is on the authorities. Would a red flag law have helped? Beats me since I don't know what it takes to detain someone.

As for red flag, my understanding as there has to be cause - I would think this guy's behavior should be cause - so I don't know how it lets anyone "just take". Like me walking down the street with a weapon & someone can just take it? I don't think that's what rf laws would do. But what the hell do know.
 
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You think they’ll impeach Trump again?
Robert Barnes think they will stop short of that. They are more afraid of Desantis as a candidate and if they get Trump off the ticket then that's who they will have to run against. He thinks they just want to dirty him up to hurt him and if he wins they can tie him up in court.... again.... and just try to ruin his presidency and hurt our country.
 
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Don't follow you're supposed logic.

I think, and I think you think, the guy should have been detained. That he wasn't is on the authorities. Would a red flag law have helped? Beats me since I don't know what it takes to detain someone.

As for red flag, my understanding as there has to be cause - I would think this guy's behavior should be cause - so I don't know how it lets anyone "just take". Like me walking down the street with a weapon&7 someone can just take it? I don't think that's what rf laws would do. But what the hell do know.
That is why red flag laws are so bad. I could litter ali call the police on you and say that you are threat to me and they can use that to take your weapons and then you'd have to go to court and prove you aren't a threat. It puts the burden of proof on the accused.
 
I guess you won't be happy until 60 million innocent women die from your decision to rob them of Healthcare.

What type of twisted awful person actually sits there and thinks "that woman has a miscarriage, she deserves to die from carrying a dead baby inside her." Oh that's right, you do. You think women who miscarry deserve to die.
You think 60 million women have miscarriages? Really?
 
You're trying to "what about" and shift the topic because you are too much of a coward to admit the truth.

Facts: the procedure to remove a miscarried baby is now illegal in every state where abortion is banned. Women who suffer miscarriages naturally (not from drug abuse) will be forced to carry a dead baby to full term, which could kill the mother. And you sick PoS are OK with it. You don't care how many innocent women die for your insanity.
No it isn't. You show me one state that would force a dead baby to be carried until the body expels it and I'll go protest that state. We are against killing the baby ya dummy. Once the baby dies we aren't really involved in the aftermath. You guys keep jumping to these bizarre situations that happen like 10 times a year when 60 million children have had their necks snapped with pliers. More kids have been aborted after they were legally born than women have been forced to carry a dead baby.
 
Correct. It's still a choice unlike abortion. See the difference?
Do they not have the choice to drive to another state? Most likely a neighboring one at that? Inconvenient? Yes, but so was losing your job because you didn’t want a covid jab.

I think you know majority of people would accept the rape/incest reason as an exception to the rule… but I think you also know that’s not the end game. As always it’s a slippery slope that starts there and ends with post birth abortions because government sucks.
 
Do they not have the choice to drive to another state? Most likely a neighboring one at that? Inconvenient? Yes, but so was losing your job because you didn’t want a covid jab.

I think you know majority of people would accept the rape/incest reason as an exception to the rule… but I think you also know that’s not the end game. As always it’s a slippery slope that starts there and ends with post birth abortions because government sucks.
Some good points. What do you think about federal laws being preposed that inact child support payments upon conception since the fetus is considered a person?
 
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Like I have said on here before....I am very conservative on many issues like you say (police, crime, taxes, military, welfare $$$, right to own most guns) but I just don't think the government has any business in our bodies, pants, doctor's office or bedroom.
Are you still part of your mom’s body?

There’s no logic there. You know it. I know it.
 
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