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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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How can you seriously expect to convince anyone when you label and name call? Are you not aware of all the failed trials Moderna and Pfizer have had in recent years? Why should ANYONE just take an untested drug? Are you mad?
Your lack of reasoning here is astonishing. I'm stating my POV, not trying to convince anyone. Net, a red herring. And conflating that with name-calling is another red herring.

Yes, I label. And well. But I take that by saying I do, singly, that you think I'm the only one here that does. LOL. I'll keep this in mind any time someone labels here.

Every drug company has failed trials. They wouldn't have a company if they didn't. These didn't fail - which is why they were authorized. Do you not see the distinction? Untested drugs aren't authorized. Apparently you don't see that distinction either.
 
Flu is more dangerous to military age people than Covid.
I won’t argue the military mandating it after the experimental tag is removed.
I served in the military and went through an assembly line of vaccinations.

If they mandate a vaccine that is labeled experimental, for people that don’t need it, they’re asking for unnecessary trouble.
Fair enough.
 
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Ok, go out there and find out all the times the opposite was true. How often has Tucker been wrong and Maddow right? If you're not willing to do this exercise than your being disengenuous.
LOL. That would be an endless exercise with no results.
 
Your lack of reasoning here is astonishing. I'm stating my POV, not trying to convince anyone. Net, a red herring. And conflating that with name-calling is another red herring.

Yes, I label. And well. But I take that by saying I do, singly, that you think I'm the only one here that does. LOL. I'll keep this in mind any time someone labels here.

Every drug company has failed trials. They wouldn't have a company if they didn't. These didn't fail - which is why they were authorized. Do you not see the distinction? Untested drugs aren't authorized. Apparently you don't see that distinction either.
I will take your answer as nonresponsive, since the vaccines have NOT gone through human trials.

You certainly have much more emotion invested than you protest, since you angrily lash out at people. And I did not say you were the only one, did I. Nope. Nice try at deflection, and also the victim card. Climb down off the cross, we need the wood.
 
Never forget how embarrassing it was when Obama went to Cuba...


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I will take your answer as nonresponsive, since the vaccines have NOT gone through human trials.

You certainly have much more emotion invested than you protest, since you angrily lash out at people. And I did not say you were the only one, did I. Nope. Nice try at deflection, and also the victim card. Climb down off the cross, we need the wood.
I'm no victim. No clue what the phrase "much more emotion invested than you protest" attempts to mean. It's gibberish.

Seriously, can't further attempt to argue with you given your belief that the vaccines weren't human-trialed on thousands b4 they were allowed on the market. That's nutsville to me.
 
Sympathizing with a lefty troll, eh? Now I remember why I put you on ignore.

Back you go, waste.
I'll let others judge whether my response was sympathizing.

Bye. Please don't ever respond to my responses to your posts or I'll know how untruthful you are.

"waste" Are you labeling me?
 
I can't convince Trumpsters either. Oh yes, that's labeling.
Again, you’re confusing me with someone else. I’m critical of Trump. I don’t think it’s a good idea to run again in 2024 as he would be too old and only one term. And yes, there are delusional people in that side as well. Still better than Romney types.
 
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I'm strictly speaking on how the media reported on Trump. The media went full bore on Russian Collusion, going so far as to say Trump was a traitor and Russian asset. The FBI knew that wasn't true from the outset, there is sworn testimony refuting it.

You don't know how I think, but you assume you do, that's the problem. I don't think " Tucker is always right", but I do look at who is accurate more often.
The liberal media destroyed their trust under the Trump administration.
What does going full bore on Russian Collusion mean? Does it mean they reported allegations of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they reported facts that could be evidence of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they claimed Trump colluded with the Russians?

I think the problem in cases like this is people see the first 2 things which are both what the media should do. The media should publish allegations and evidence. Talking heads and opinion people can speculate on what it means but we have real courts and real juries and real investigators to determine whether it actually happened or not. This is why we have freedom of press and freedom of speech.

The same thing happened with Hunter Biden. The media published allegations, they published evidence, and talking heads all said their opinions. Just like they all should do and are entitled to do. But just like Trump when the investigators investigated and the jury deliberated no one was found guilty. I bet you feel different about that though even though the officials all reached the same conclusion.

That's my problem. If I went to a liberal board they would point to the Hunter Biden stuff and say conservative media just wants to drag liberals through the mud. Here you say Liberal media just wants to drag Trump through the mud. The criticism isn't valid. It's the medias job to inform whether you like what they are informing you of or not. Trump and Hunter Biden are both shady so neither source has to dig very far to make allegations and uncover dirt. I for one am glad that they do it. Anyone who isn't partisanly blind can see these 2 men's character on full display.
 
What does going full bore on Russian Collusion mean? Does it mean they reported allegations of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they reported facts that could be evidence of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they claimed Trump colluded with the Russians?

I think the problem in cases like this is people see the first 2 things which are both what the media should do. The media should publish allegations and evidence. Talking heads and opinion people can speculate on what it means but we have real courts and real juries and real investigators to determine whether it actually happened or not. This is why we have freedom of press and freedom of speech.

The same thing happened with Hunter Biden. The media published allegations, they published evidence, and talking heads all said their opinions. Just like they all should do and are entitled to do. But just like Trump when the investigators investigated and the jury deliberated no one was found guilty. I bet you feel different about that though even though the officials all reached the same conclusion.

That's my problem. If I went to a liberal board they would point to the Hunter Biden stuff and say conservative media just wants to drag liberals through the mud. Here you say Liberal media just wants to drag Trump through the mud. The criticism isn't valid. It's the medias job to inform whether you like what they are informing you of or not. Trump and Hunter Biden are both shady so neither source has to dig very far to make allegations and uncover dirt. I for one am glad that they do it. Anyone who isn't partisanly blind can see these 2 men's character on full display.
They didn't report facts on Russian collusion, they reported what they thought would be most damaging to Trump. The FBI leaked info they knew was false to media, media reported it, and FBI used the media report to open investigations. The info was all there in testimony, it wasn't hidden. Even the story that Russia hacked the DNC has testimony from Crowdstrike stating they aren't certain anyone, much less Russia hacked it.

The media did not report on the Hunter Biden stuff, they still haven't and won't. The only reporting they did was to falsely say it was Russian misinfo, and tech companies censored it, and a news agency that broke it.

The liberal board you're referring would be delusional, and you're trolling. Both Biden's are corrupt to their core. Joe has been a lifelong public servant, and has used that to enrich himself. Whats worse is he's used his troubled, addict son to be the go between.
 
Again, you’re confusing me with someone else. I’m critical of Trump. I don’t think it’s a good idea to run again in 2024 as he would be too old and only one term. And yes, there are delusional people in that side as well. Still better than Romney types.
Sorry, I wasn't directing the labeling comment at you but rather to someone who accused me of labeling. Your post was just a convenient channel.

Alas, he'll never see it b/c he's ignored me. I'm so emotionally hurt. :mad:
 
So how is Biden and company to know the content of our text messages to “correct” vaccine concerns?

Pretty insane.

You don’t go to these measures without sinister motives
Maybe I should not post this?

 
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Arguing with a lefty about brainwashed and hypocrisy is always a waste. They have no awareness and it’s simply a religion to them- more cognitive dissonance than a sports fan’s homerism.

These are the people who produced and consumed total hysteria non-stop during Trump. All good was ignored. All rational thoughts were dismissed. They hated him and acted like lunatics. They speculated wildly, printed every lie and rumor they could with zero hesitation.

This same group oohs and aahs over Biden eating ice cream. Doesn’t say jack shit about a guy refusing to answer questions, only calling on approved reporters to answer scripted questions.
🖕 these people
Arguing with a righty about brainwashing and hypocrisy is always a waste. They have no awareness and it's simply a religion to them. More conginitve dissonance than a sports fans homeroom..

These are the people who produced and consumed total hysteria for 8 years under Brack Obama and they have started again under Joe Biden, heck they still get hysterical about Hillary Clinton and she has never even been President. They ignore everything good and they cannot think rationally about Democrats. They hate them all and act like lunatics posting threats of murder and even racist imagery of Barrack's wife Michelle. It's disgusting. They speculate wildly and print every lie with zero hesitation. They even claim Biden has dimentia with no credible evidence whatsoever.

Meanwhile the same group ooh's and ahh's over Trump calling people ridiculous names. Don't say shit about the constant lies and exaggerations he tells or that he always goes off script and says stupid stuff like inject yourself with bleach.

Eff these people.

This just a mirror of what you posted not my actual beliefs, but the point is anyone could easily amke these arguments on both sides. Why is one side right and the other brainwashed? Trust me a lot of liberals think conservatives are brainwashed as well. This is also a two way street.
 
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What does going full bore on Russian Collusion mean? Does it mean they reported allegations of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they reported facts that could be evidence of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they claimed Trump colluded with the Russians?

I think the problem in cases like this is people see the first 2 things which are both what the media should do. The media should publish allegations and evidence. Talking heads and opinion people can speculate on what it means but we have real courts and real juries and real investigators to determine whether it actually happened or not. This is why we have freedom of press and freedom of speech.

The same thing happened with Hunter Biden. The media published allegations, they published evidence, and talking heads all said their opinions. Just like they all should do and are entitled to do. But just like Trump when the investigators investigated and the jury deliberated no one was found guilty. I bet you feel different about that though even though the officials all reached the same conclusion.

That's my problem. If I went to a liberal board they would point to the Hunter Biden stuff and say conservative media just wants to drag liberals through the mud. Here you say Liberal media just wants to drag Trump through the mud. The criticism isn't valid. It's the medias job to inform whether you like what they are informing you of or not. Trump and Hunter Biden are both shady so neither source has to dig very far to make allegations and uncover dirt. I for one am glad that they do it. Anyone who isn't partisanly blind can see these 2 men's character on full display.
Believing intelligence agencies at their word isn't publishing facts, it's quite the opposite its running with a narrative without facts to intentionally mislead. It's lacking the whole "truth to power" thing. It has been a blast watching libs support intelligence agencies tho...do they believe in WMD's now? Taking one anonymous source at their word isn't journalism. Weird how they used to hate these guys.

It's why Glenn Greenwald, who is no right wing person, has repeatedly destroyed the media over this.

The press was basically qanon level conspiracy theorists the last 4 years...if ppl actually think another country is controlling the US government. Lolololololol.

Here's a good test for you- when something is happening that doesn't fit their narrative they will call it a conspiracy theory, but when they have something that they want to fit their narrative they'll pose it as a question - "are the russians compromising Trump?" Whats the point of asking this, theyre the journalist..either you have hard evidence or you don't. What would be the point of asking the viewer to answer other than you want to lead them there?



 
Arguing with a righty about brainwashing and hypocrisy is always a waste. They have no awareness and it's simply a religion to them. More conginitve dissonance than a sports fans homeroom..

These are the people who produced and consumed total hysteria for 8 years under Brack Obama and they have started again under Joe Biden, heck they still get hysterical about Hillary Clinton and she has never even been President. They ignore everything good and they cannot think rationally about Democrats. They hate them all and act like lunatics posting threats of murder and even racist imagery of Barrack's wife Michelle. It's disgusting. They speculate wildly and print every lie with zero hesitation. They even claim Biden has dimentia with no credible evidence whatsoever.

Meanwhile the same group ooh's and ahh's over Trump calling people ridiculous names. Don't say shit about the constant lies and exaggerations he tells or that he always goes off script and says stupid stuff like inject yourself with bleach.

Eff these people.

This just a mirror of what you posted not my actual beliefs, but the point is anyone could easily amke these arguments on both sides. Why is one side right and the other brainwashed?
Please explain exactly what we are brainwashed about?
And don't talk about "Hysteria" until you acknowledge the absolute maniacal hysteria over Trump the left has spent the better part of 5 years now engaging in.

I don't recall Right wingers rioting in major cities across the country for over a year during the Obama Administration, Don't see it now either under Biden.

You think everything that's going on since Biden took office is OK? Please justify that stance.
 
They didn't report facts on Russian collusion, they reported what they thought would be most damaging to Trump. The FBI leaked info they knew was false to media, media reported it, and FBI used the media report to open investigations. The info was all there in testimony, it wasn't hidden. Even the story that Russia hacked the DNC has testimony from Crowdstrike stating they aren't certain anyone, much less Russia hacked it.

The media did not report on the Hunter Biden stuff, they still haven't and won't. The only reporting they did was to falsely say it was Russian misinfo, and tech companies censored it, and a news agency that broke it.

The liberal board you're referring would be delusional, and you're trolling. Both Biden's are corrupt to their core. Joe has been a lifelong public servant, and has used that to enrich himself. Whats worse is he's used his troubled, addict son to be the go between.
You're making my point wonderfully. All of this is tribalism. You believe what your side does is perfect and reasonable and everything the other side does is wrong, even when they are basically the exact same thing.
 
Believing intelligence agencies at their word isn't publishing facts, it's quite the opposite its running with a narrative without facts to intentionally mislead. It's lacking the whole "truth to power" thing. It has been a blast watching libs support intelligence agencies tho...do they believe in WMD's now? Taking one anonymous source at their word isn't journalism. Weird how they used to hate these guys.

It's why Glenn Greenwald, who is no right wing person, has repeatedly destroyed the media over this.

The press was basically qanon level conspiracy theorists the last 4 years...if ppl actually think another country is controlling the US government. Lolololololol.

Here's a good test for you- when something is happening that doesn't fit their narrative they will call it a conspiracy theory, but when they have something that they want to fit their narrative they'll pose it as a question - "are the russians compromising Trump?" Whats the point of asking this, theyre the journalist..either you have hard evidence or you don't. What would be the point of asking the viewer to answer other than you want to lead them there?



Ok, but Fox News does the exact same thing right?
 
Please explain exactly what we are brainwashed about?
And don't talk about "Hysteria" until you acknowledge the absolute maniacal hysteria over Trump the left has spent the better part of 5 years now engaging in.

I don't recall Right wingers rioting in major cities across the country for over a year during the Obama Administration, Don't see it now either under Biden.

You think everything that's going on since Biden took office is OK? Please justify that stance.
Read the post I responded to and then read mine and make sure you make it all the way to the end. Reading comprehension is your friend here.
 
Please explain exactly what we are brainwashed about?
And don't talk about "Hysteria" until you acknowledge the absolute maniacal hysteria over Trump the left has spent the better part of 5 years now engaging in.

I don't recall Right wingers rioting in major cities across the country for over a year during the Obama Administration, Don't see it now either under Biden.

You think everything that's going on since Biden took office is OK? Please justify that stance.
Hopefully you went back and followed the instructions of my last post. Now I will tell you, I don't think anyone is brainwashed. I think people consume media that tickles their sensibilities. People that don't like Trump loved reading articles on CNN talking bad about him. People that don't like Biden love reading articles on Fox News talking bad about him. The mistake both liberals and conservatives make is thinking people are brainwashed by the news they consume. I am arguing the relationship goes the other way. The media publishes stories they know their audience will consume.
 
What does going full bore on Russian Collusion mean? Does it mean they reported allegations of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they reported facts that could be evidence of Russian Collusion? Does it mean they claimed Trump colluded with the Russians?

I think the problem in cases like this is people see the first 2 things which are both what the media should do. The media should publish allegations and evidence. Talking heads and opinion people can speculate on what it means but we have real courts and real juries and real investigators to determine whether it actually happened or not. This is why we have freedom of press and freedom of speech.

The same thing happened with Hunter Biden. The media published allegations, they published evidence, and talking heads all said their opinions. Just like they all should do and are entitled to do. But just like Trump when the investigators investigated and the jury deliberated no one was found guilty. I bet you feel different about that though even though the officials all reached the same conclusion.

That's my problem. If I went to a liberal board they would point to the Hunter Biden stuff and say conservative media just wants to drag liberals through the mud. Here you say Liberal media just wants to drag Trump through the mud. The criticism isn't valid. It's the medias job to inform whether you like what they are informing you of or not. Trump and Hunter Biden are both shady so neither source has to dig very far to make allegations and uncover dirt. I for one am glad that they do it. Anyone who isn't partisanly blind can see these 2 men's character on full display.
/ignore 420 bro
 
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