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What person with a thimble full of brains & morals could honestly say anything positive about a political party that believes in killing babies. That tries to make the police out to be the bad guys in order to get the thug vote. That defends the communist leaders in Cuba. That shut the churches down over COVID but left the abortion clinics open. Anyone that attempts to say something positive about then is brainwashed.
So because you are against abortion you are automatically against everything other single thing any Democrat might propose?
 
I don't think anyone is brainwashed. I know that people that watch Tucker Carlson think like he does. I also know that people that watch Rachel Maddow think like she does. None of these people are brainwashing anyone, they are just putting words to their viewers thoughts.
The question is which one is actually accurate more than not?
Maddow went full bore on Russian collusion, Carlson reported it accurately.
Maddow went all in on Avenatti, Carlson accurately called him a fraud.
Maddow went all in on Quid pro quo, Carlson accurately reported it wasn’t, and that there was a DOJ investigation into Biden and Ukraine.

That’s just a few items, the list goes on and on. The left is pushing a narrative
 
Common Sense tells us.
Common is a reflection of your experience. It comes from your family, your location, your friends, and your surroundings. Those thoughts may not be common in someone's who was raised in a different location with different friends and family. Maybe you are brainwashed by who you are surrounded by?
 
Personally, I’m just amused at the left pretending to be concerned about people’s safety when they advocate for abortion, don’t bat an eye at political violence or urban violence, and openly want their political opposition dead/destroyed.

This same group has been bringing back old diseases through third world migration and did not bat an eye.
 
The question is which one is actually accurate more than not?
Maddow went full bore on Russian collusion, Carlson reported it accurately.
Maddow went all in on Avenatti, Carlson accurately called him a fraud.
Maddow went all in on Quid pro quo, Carlson accurately reported it wasn’t, and that there was a DOJ investigation into Biden and Ukraine.

That’s just a few items, the list goes on and on. The left is pushing a narrative
Ok, go out there and find out all the times the opposite was true. How often has Tucker been wrong and Maddow right? If you're not willing to do this exercise than your being disengenuous. Neither of them are right all the time and neither of them are wrong all the time. The problem is you think Tucker is always right and Maddow is always wrong. That thinking is illogical and makes no sense.
 
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Yes, you think people only think what they are told to think, which is implicit in your posts and yes a reflection of you being brainwashed. Maddow/Carlson don't have to be brainwashing people for the media writ large to be propaganda.

You are brainwashed. I'm saying it clearly, that you don't come to the indoctrinated leftist thoughts you have without it happening.



I don't know, I said it, but I don't have to be told it's happening first for me to know it's true. It's like the picture shows, you are told what to believe and then everywhere you look that belief is reinforced. YOu think everyone is like that, like you... they aren't.
Why would a huge industry with millions of employees want to indoctrinate people to the left? Why would all their employees go along with it?
 
Yes, you think people only think what they are told to think, which is implicit in your posts and yes a reflection of you being brainwashed. Maddow/Carlson don't have to be brainwashing people for the media writ large to be propaganda.

You are brainwashed. I'm saying it clearly, that you don't come to the indoctrinated leftist thoughts you have without it happening.



I don't know, I said it, but I don't have to be told it's happening first for me to know it's true. It's like the picture shows, you are told what to believe and then everywhere you look that belief is reinforced. YOu think everyone is like that, like you... they aren't.
It’s really as simple as this.

Which group is exposed to all views and which group does everything to silence hearing any opposing view?

Conservatives hear the left’s crazy shit in every aspect of life. There’s no escape from it- academia, corporate media, tech, sports, Hollywood, etc- pushes leftist BS 24/7. We are fully aware of their stance on everything.

The left? Shuts down speakers on college campuses, gets people banned on social media, will not cover the truth because it kills their narrative, cherry pick their coverage.

These people have the audacity to call someone else brainwashed? Their media tells them to jump and they ask how high? Whatever issue is in the news for that 24 hours is “the biggest and most important thing ever” until it’s suddenly not when it’s not politically convenient (think kids in cages). They will harass and riot as soon as they’re given the talking point to have. “Now make sure to tune into this 24-hour news cycle here at CNN where we have an expert to tell you what to think which coincidentally is always the left’s talking point.”
 
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Why do you believe this? Who exposed you to this idea? Who told you that all these people are wrong and are brainwashing people? If the answer to that is your media source or someone who has a financial interest in you believing this than I would question that belief. Is it true or do the people telling me it is true need me to believe it for their own gain.
Who told me? You can’t be serious.

The same people engaged in this indoctrination will gladly tell you themselves. FOH
 
Why would a huge industry with millions of employees want to indoctrinate people to the left? Why would all their employees go along with it?

Why not?

I know why.

Common is a reflection of your experience. It comes from your family, your location, your friends, and your surroundings. Those thoughts may not be common in someone's who was raised in a different location with different friends and family. Maybe you are brainwashed by who you are surrounded by?

Again, you're just trying to justify you being brainwashed as no different than anybody else, that everybody is brainwashed and told what to think.

No, they aren't.
 
Why not?

I know why.



Again, you're just trying to justify you being brainwashed as no different than anybody else, that everybody is brainwashed and told what to think.

No, they aren't.
Obviously everyone thinks their beliefs are right to some extent or they wouldn't hold them. For instance I don't think it is alright to lie to get what I want no matter how important what I want is to me. I observe that many people think it is ok to lie to get what they want because why they want is so I portant that lying to get it is a price I must pay. I understand that belief and why people hold it, but I do not agree with it and never will.

My question is simply why do you think everyone that does not have an opinion similar to your is brainwashed? Why do you think that they could not possibly have come up with their thoughts on their own?
 
It’s really as simple as this.

Which group is exposed to all views and which group does everything to silence hearing any opposing view?

Conservatives hear the left’s crazy shit in every aspect of life. There’s no escape from it- academia, corporate media, tech, sports, Hollywood, etc- pushes leftist BS 24/7. We are fully aware of their stance on everything.

The left? Shuts down speakers on college campuses, gets people banned on social media, will not cover the truth because it kills their narrative, cherry pick their coverage.

These people have the audacity to call someone else brainwashed? Their media tells them to jump and they ask how high? Whatever issue is in the news for that 24 hours is “the biggest and most important thing ever” until it’s suddenly not when it’s not politically convenient (think kids in cages). They will harass and riot as soon as they’re given the talking point to have. “Now make sure to tune into this 24-hour news cycle here at CNN where we have an expert to tell you what to think which coincidentally is always the left’s talking point.”
Had this conversation a while back with my Fiance's college age "woke" son when he talked about refusing to listen to any conservative news outlets. I told him we formulate our opinions because we listen to both sides. That we have no choice hearing their sides because it's pumped into our faces 24/7 and that we have to seek out the alternatives like Fox or OANN or Newsmax. While he just listens to what one side pumps into his face without ever seeking or hearing an alternate viewpoint.
 
Arguing with a lefty about brainwashed and hypocrisy is always a waste. They have no awareness and it’s simply a religion to them- more cognitive dissonance than a sports fan’s homerism.

These are the people who produced and consumed total hysteria non-stop during Trump. All good was ignored. All rational thoughts were dismissed. They hated him and acted like lunatics. They speculated wildly, printed every lie and rumor they could with zero hesitation.

This same group oohs and aahs over Biden eating ice cream. Doesn’t say jack shit about a guy refusing to answer questions, only calling on approved reporters to answer scripted questions.
🖕 these people
 
Had this conversation a while back with my Fiance's college age "woke" son when he talked about refusing to listen to any conservative news outlets. I told him we formulate our opinions because we listen to both sides. That we have no choice hearing their sides because it's pumped into our faces 24/7 and that we have to seek out the alternatives like Fox or OANN or Newsmax. While he just listens to what one side pumps into his face without ever seeking or hearing an alternate viewpoint.
Yep.

It would be like someone’s enemy/ex speaking to a group while no other side is ever heard. You just hear that one view over and over. “Wow! They must really be awful.”

Where as if those people maybe heard other stuff like “Yeah, take that with a grain of salt considering that person is a pathological liar, stole my car and crashed it, and emptied out my bank account for her ex con drug addict BF”...it might change things

😂

Just an example. I’ve had my share of crazies though.
 
Obviously everyone thinks their beliefs are right to some extent or they wouldn't hold them. For instance I don't think it is alright to lie to get what I want no matter how important what I want is to me. I observe that many people think it is ok to lie to get what they want because why they want is so I portant that lying to get it is a price I must pay. I understand that belief and why people hold it, but I do not agree with it and never will.

My question is simply why do you think everyone that does not have an opinion similar to your is brainwashed? Why do you think that they could not possibly have come up with their thoughts on their own?

That's not what I think.

I know you, and others that "think" like you, do so because you are brainwashed.

No one told me that, but there are others capable who recognize it and understand it to be true. For example, there's a North Korean defector that managed to escape and eventually went on to study at Columbia. She claims the propaganda and indoctrination she saw there on campus and in class was no different than what she was subjected to as a child.

She's right.
 
Ok, go out there and find out all the times the opposite was true. How often has Tucker been wrong and Maddow right? If you're not willing to do this exercise than your being disengenuous. Neither of them are right all the time and neither of them are wrong all the time. The problem is you think Tucker is always right and Maddow is always wrong. That thinking is illogical and makes no sense.
I'm strictly speaking on how the media reported on Trump. The media went full bore on Russian Collusion, going so far as to say Trump was a traitor and Russian asset. The FBI knew that wasn't true from the outset, there is sworn testimony refuting it.

You don't know how I think, but you assume you do, that's the problem. I don't think " Tucker is always right", but I do look at who is accurate more often.
The liberal media destroyed their trust under the Trump administration.
 
That's not what I think.

I know you, and others that "think" like you, do so because you are brainwashed.

No one told me that, but there are others capable who recognize it and understand it to be true. For example, there's a North Korean defector that managed to escape and eventually went on to study at Columbia. She claims the propaganda and indoctrination she saw there on campus and in class was no different than what she was subjected to as a child.

She's right.
You cannot convince this group they’re in a cult. This is a religion to them which is why they are insane and even violent toward those who disagree with them. Not much difference than seeing Muslims lose their minds if anyone is critical of Islam.

They do not possess the mental capacity to even become aware that they’re in a giant echo chamber. They’re so delusional that they believe they’re the rebels while being foot soldiers of globalism, mega corporations, big tech, etc.

“Viva La Resistance”- Screamed Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Google, corporate media, Hollywood, etc😂

You cannot reason with the unreasonable.
 
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Obviously everyone thinks their beliefs are right to some extent or they wouldn't hold them. For instance I don't think it is alright to lie to get what I want no matter how important what I want is to me. I observe that many people think it is ok to lie to get what they want because why they want is so I portant that lying to get it is a price I must pay. I understand that belief and why people hold it, but I do not agree with it and never will.

My question is simply why do you think everyone that does not have an opinion similar to your is brainwashed? Why do you think that they could not possibly have come up with their thoughts on their own?
You’re engaging in gaslighting this board on an epic scale. It’s not worth the trouble to waste time and energy to “debate” the issues with you.
 
This isn’t even a debate. Look at how unhinged and hysterical they are. They think there’s a ton of different genders, have a label for every mental disorder sexual attraction they have, they consume crazy shit 24/7, they live in a false reality fed to them (White supremacists are everywhere and out to get you, cops are hunting people, covid will kill all of us unless you wear that mask at all times and get these shots).

Look at their “journalists.” Look at the crazy types who blamed Trump for their weight gain (true story) and every other failure in their life. Look at how many are in therapy. They are among the most miserable people.
 
The media went full bore on Russian Collusion, going so far as to say Trump was a traitor and Russian asset. The FBI knew that wasn't true from the outset
When I lost all faith in the FBI and the Federal government in general. Why didn't the FBI step forward and refute some/most/all of these stories? (Think I know the answer) Or....why no leaking to a conservative media member by a disgruntled FBI employee/agent?
 
People were not negative on Trump because the media was negative on Trump. The media was negative on Trump because most people are negative on Trump. That's what you don't understand.

Some conservatives look at his record and say look what he did, why does it matter how he behaves? The problem with this line of thinking is that any Republican that won a Presidential election and had the same majority in the House and Senate like he did would have done almost all of the same things. His policies therefore don't really matter because they are mostly generic conservative policies. Once you understand that his character comes into play. When the vast majority of people look at his character there just isn't much to like. The fact that most of his supporters even have to say look at his policies not his personality is an acknowledgement that they don't even like his character.

Also the thought that everyone else would think just like you if they weren't brainwashed is arrogance to the extreme. It is also extremely lazy and shows an unwillingness to critically examine your own thoughts.

Have you ever truly set and thought about why you believe everyone is brainwashed? If the only thing you can come up with is they don't agree with me and I am right then you need to think a little harder.
That's demonstrably false, and I can prove it because the negative press dates back to before he even had a Presidential track record. This was a guy who was a darling of Democrats - even Jesse Jackson gave him an award for helping the black community - and yet suddenly he runs as a Repub and he's a racist. The fact that you cherrypicked/leapfrogged over this very relevant data shows just how myopic you are.

CNN LITERALLY WHINED ABOUT TRUMP GETTING TWO SCOOPS OF ICE CREAM AT DINNER. Yet Biden gets asked what flavor he likes.
 
Why would a huge industry with millions of employees want to indoctrinate people to the left? Why would all their employees go along with it?
Answering questions with questions is an Alinsky-like tactic that is also a logical fallacy. You're not arguing in good faith, because you are spamming rhetorical questions in an attempt to exhaust people ad nauseum.
 
Ok, go out there and find out all the times the opposite was true. How often has Tucker been wrong and Maddow right? If you're not willing to do this exercise than your being disengenuous. Neither of them are right all the time and neither of them are wrong all the time. The problem is you think Tucker is always right and Maddow is always wrong. That thinking is illogical and makes no sense.
Maddow is a PROVEN LIAR who swore she had Trump's tax returns and then suddenly change the subject when it turned out she didn't. She's nothing but a leftist shill who memory-holes anything she lies about, which is basically everything. I remember her practically creaming her Levis on her show about how 'accessible' Psaki was the week after Biden was inaugurated, and yet just 36 hours later the press was whining about being stonewalled with 'circlebacks.'

There, I just gave you an example. Now you provide an actual, PROVEN example, not just an opinion, of when Tucker has straight up LIED on camera. I'll wait.
 
I don't think anyone is brainwashed. I know that people that watch Tucker Carlson think like he does. I also know that people that watch Rachel Maddow think like she does. None of these people are brainwashing anyone, they are just putting words to their viewers thoughts.
With that logic, leftists are SEVERELY in the minority, given Tucker's and Maddow's viewership.

You sure you want to ride that horse, son?
 
Common is a reflection of your experience. It comes from your family, your location, your friends, and your surroundings. Those thoughts may not be common in someone's who was raised in a different location with different friends and family. Maybe you are brainwashed by who you are surrounded by?
Wow, your response is FASCINATING! It's really amazing that you were not only too stupid to know what common sense means, but that you were too effing LAZY to even look up the definition!
 
Obviously everyone thinks their beliefs are right to some extent or they wouldn't hold them. For instance I don't think it is alright to lie to get what I want no matter how important what I want is to me. I observe that many people think it is ok to lie to get what they want because why they want is so I portant that lying to get it is a price I must pay. I understand that belief and why people hold it, but I do not agree with it and never will.

My question is simply why do you think everyone that does not have an opinion similar to your is brainwashed? Why do you think that they could not possibly have come up with their thoughts on their own?
Ah, the old 'your truth vs. my truth' canard.

Unfortunately, leftist truth isn't grounded in reality. You make synthetic claims that are easily disproven and indicate some level of mental illness. Your party/side supports cheering the mentally ill as heroes, defunding cops, slaughtering children in AND OUT OF the womb, burning down cities, and bankrupting the middle class. Your side believes woke is reality, when in fact it's madness and actually works to destroy society and normality. Your political party practices deception (see Fauci and COVID) on a minute by minute basis in order to accomplish its goal of permanent and total subjugation of the common pee-pul.
 
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