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PJ’s dad says son will stay in draft with first round pick promise

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Here’s your answer.

To improve his stock and be a 1st rounder, PJ Washington will have to show he’s developed his face up game and produce some from the perimeter. Coach Cal is not going to give him the opportunity to do that, he likes his bigs hanging around rim cleaning up garbage on both ends of the floor.
 
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I'm all for guys leaving and getting their money, but this one really makes no sense. I really want PJ back, and think that he'll be a very good college player next season......but he isn't close to contributing in the NBA. Can't shoot, can't handle the ball, not a "great passer", not a great defender. Those guys end up in the G League, and stop developing. Fort Wayne isn't a fun place to live.

Go back to lex, get better, get great coaching, have the time of your life.....then be a 1st round pick.
It's the Matt Walsh syndrome. Thought he would be a first rounder and never got drafted.
 
If all of the RR GM's can see PJ as late lottery next year, then NBA scouts can see the potential this year as a late 1st flyer. Or PJ is what he is and may never be a 1st rounder. It only takes one team to like his potential or none may like it, no matter what year he leaves.
 
watching the jazz/rockets game, pj tucker just had a great game scoring 19 points, 5-7 from three. guy is a 6'6" 6 ppg glue guy playing 27 mpg, but shoots 37% from three. kid played at texas for 3 years and attempted just 4 threes. 6 years in the league he figured it out, developed a shot, and is allowed to shoot it and has stuck around.

love pj, want him back, but if all 3 come back (pj, jv, wg) in the 20 minutes pj gets are fans and cal going to be ok with him taking all jumpers? if he is just going to be a garbage paint guy....i dont see how fans with a straight face can suggest staying is in his best interests. his goal is to be a pro, not a 4 year college player. tough spot.
 
I really love how PJ came on last year midway through the SEC Season and Played outstanding ball with JV when they were in the lineup together. What I don't understand is that the poster said he needed to work on his 3 point shot but actually PJ needs to work on his Midrange Shot. The only time PJ was scoring is when SGA would feed him the ball underneath for a layup, a put back rebound, or 50% shooting Free Throws. PJ has more to work on his game than just shooting as he had many turnovers when he had possession of the ball.

I just don't understand some of our players that are only Freshmen and have been told by many NBA Scouts that all 3 of these players should come back for 1 more season at UK and work on there game. This 2018 NBA DRAFT is a loaded draft and most of the Scouts have said that right now the 2019 NBA Draft is weak and that if both PJ and JV come back to UK and have outstanding season and stay injury free they would go in the 1st round. With PJ right now he is at #15 to #20 on most of the 2019 NBA Mock Draft boards in the 1st round. If PJ comes back to Kentucky has an outstanding season and works on his Midrange shot and 3 point shot and even develops a nice 15-20ft shot he could work his way to being a Lottery Pick in the 2019 NBA Draft.

With PJ and JV needing surgeries and not ready for the NBA right now you would think just 1 year isn't so much to come back and work on both games and have an outstanding seasons to be a 1st round pick and possibly a Lottery pick in the 2019 NBA Draft. We have been told by PJ's dad that the money is not something that the family needs asap and many times I felt that his dad wanted PJ to come back for another season at Kentucky. I guess I just don't understand some of these players that can't wait just one more year that for the 2019 NBA Rookie Salary for #15 pick in the 1st round is $8,000,000 for the first 3 years and the 4th and 5th year options would put the salary at approx. $20,000,000 for the 5 years. That is $4,000,000 average per year for a rookie that is selected #15 in the 1st round of the 2019 NBA Draft.
 
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Didn’t read the article but his dad seemed like a rational, good dad from the quotes I read all season. They’ll make the right decision. Kentucky will be fine with or without him and we’ll all be back next year cheering on the uniform.
 
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I would take PJ over diallo if I’m a GM. With that said if he comes back and develops a shooting touch he will be mid first rounder next year. Sounds like he’s gone though
 
Looking at the players who are eligible for the draft I can't see PJ being one of the top 30. But, then I don't see Diallo being a pick at all, so what do I know?
 
lol, thanks PJ’s dad.

He could EASILY secure himself late lottery next year. Everyone wants to be a multi millionaire... sometimes it takes more than 8 months “work”
To achieve that... He’s not securely in the 1st round right now, and it’s hard to imagine him in any NBA rotation next year so what is the harm again in coming back for 1 more season, build hype, work on game while on the biggest stage in college basketball?

Because apparently it’s hard being a “slave”.
 
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Is there any traction to Travis being a grad transfer yet or having any interest from or in UK? Everyone has thrown that name around, but I've not seen anything written besides speculative tweets and message board musings. Genuinely curious if I missed something. He would be a great addition, but I don't want to think someone like Reid is a real possibility if he isn't even planning on leaving Stanford.

I’m with you. The only place I’ve read it is on this message board. This board is good for teaching players how to shoot free throws and pointing out when someone has an error in how they walk, by I don’t know that any of them are hired in to recruit. Hell, I take that back. I read an article somewhere that mentioned his name and even the article basically mentioned the “Kentucky fans” and people on message boards asking if he would be an option. Still nothing that would make me believe we’re recruiting the guy or have dealers out to people that know him.
 
watching the jazz/rockets game, pj tucker just had a great game scoring 19 points, 5-7 from three. guy is a 6'6" 6 ppg glue guy playing 27 mpg, but shoots 37% from three. kid played at texas for 3 years and attempted just 4 threes. 6 years in the league he figured it out, developed a shot, and is allowed to shoot it and has stuck around.

love pj, want him back, but if all 3 come back (pj, jv, wg) in the 20 minutes pj gets are fans and cal going to be ok with him taking all jumpers? if he is just going to be a garbage paint guy....i dont see how fans with a straight face can suggest staying is in his best interests. his goal is to be a pro, not a 4 year college player. tough spot.
My goal at one time was to be a porn star, but just like PJ’s goal to be a pro, we’re both just a little bit too short.
 
It's the Matt Walsh syndrome. Thought he would be a first rounder and never got drafted.

What really motivated Walsh to leave was Corey Brewer (I believe Walsh even later basically admitted this in an interview). He knew Brewer was better than him, would likely soon take his position, so he better get out now while his stock was relatively high.

And you have to wonder if maybe some of the same sort of thoughts are going through PJ's head right now with regard to EJ Montgomery.
 
What really motivated Walsh to leave was Corey Brewer (I believe Walsh even later basically admitted this in an interview). He knew Brewer was better than him, would likely soon take his position, so he better get out now while his stock was relatively high.

And you have to wonder if maybe some of the same sort of thoughts are going through PJ's head right now with regard to EJ Montgomery.
As I recall, Walsh was the guy that held a big draft party with tuxedos and the whole bit but never got selected. I never thought he was that good to begin with and had a weird shot but always played well against us.
 
Well had PJ played a little harder throughout the season he might not have such a tough decision i front of him...i remember many a game saying to myself....PJ looks like he would rather be doing amything else than playing basketball...not sure what he may have been going thru so im not gonna try and speculate..but there were times he played uninspired....
 
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I guess PJ and his dad will learn what an "NBA promise" really means the hard way. Every year, you hear these stories of kids being "promised to take them if they are there" and it doesn't happen. Going to be a sad situation to watch on draft night.
 
PJ should talk to Kenny Walker, nobody could handle him around the rim but he never developed an outside game and didn't handle the ball particularly well. That's the big reason he never was very effective in the pros. I would rather have had Walker in college and Person in the pros because he could do both, meaning PJ needs to have better handles and an outside game to at his size to succeed in the pros. PJ thinking he might be drafted in the first round is wishful thinking, Walker was an all American and scoring machine and he didn't last to long and PJ is two inches shorter.
 
LMAO!! Holding them hostage? That's ridiculous. The combine isn't even until next week. Gimme a break


I'm not sure what the combine date has to do with it. So give me a hint. While you're at it tell me what "big" recruit wants to come if Washington breaks out of his dream world and decides to come back? Think recruits don't look at a roster and speculate on how many minutes they might get? Possibly one small reason we struck out on the ones we swung at and missed this year.

The loser's excuse that "we don't want a player who's afraid of competition" doesn't work in the one and done world. These guys aren't dumb. This is a business to them and playing time is a must.
 
Well had PJ played a little harder throughout the season he might not have such a tough decision i front of him...i remember many a game saying to myself....PJ looks like he would rather be doing amything else than playing basketball...not sure what he may have been going thru so im not gonna try and speculate..but there were times he played uninspired....


What else did you say to yourself? You should
Keep a “thought diary”
 
You guys are freaking out for no reason. There's 3% change that PJ gets promised a 1st round pick. Who the hell wants a 6'7 average athlete who's neither a good rebounder or good shooter at his height? He's good enough to make a big difference on our team next year. He's nowhere near good enough to make a difference on an NBA team within the next 5. I haven't seen a legit mock draft that has PJ in the first round. I've seen very few that have him farther than mid 2nd round, if at all. He'll be back.
 
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As limited as his game is - 6'6 power forward that can't shoot in today's NBA? - his athleticism and length are elite. So, I think he's going to cause quite a stir at the combine. When they get his measurements, he'll be one of the guys making headlines. That alone - despite being a 6'6 forward that can't shoot - will cause enough positive momentum that he'll get the idea someone will take a chance on him (whether or not they will is another matter, guarantees aside), and he'll stay in the draft.


I don't understand the elite athleticism thing. If you're taking the 43" vertical from the UK pro day to heart, you and PJ are going to be disappointed. That would put his vertical a good 4 inches above Bam Adebayo. Not only is he NOT as springy as Bam, he's not even close. The same Pro Day that said Briscoe, who I'm not even sure can dunk, had a 37" vertical. Dakari once posted somewhere in the low to mid 30s, I want to say 34 yet at the NBA combined proved to only be 25. Kentucky has a habit for fudging a few players measurements here and there to make them look better. PJ is in the mid to high 30s on a good day. A true 43" vertical would've seen him dragging his nuts across peoples face every game. If he DOES have a 43" vertical, I'm twice as mad about his lack of rebounding and overall production.
 
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Alot of posters knocking PJ. he can't shoot, dribble, play defense. What NBA team would want him? LMAO. WHY do you want him then? That's the question.
 
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I agree Elijah, PJ, Gabriel & Vanderbilt are average college players. Only reason anyone wants them is they have a year or 2 experience. Our good players from a 12 loss team (knox & sga) are future pros.
 
NBA team “we promise”

That means nothing at the end of the day. Say the NBA team who “promised” PJ’s dad that they’d take him first round change their mind and pick someone else... what are PJ and his dad gonna say ...” Hey now, y’all promised!”
Yeah, that quote from Jerry Maguire quickly comes to mind:

"My word...it's stronger than oak".

 
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Alot of posters knocking PJ. he can't shoot, dribble, play defense. What NBA team would want him? LMAO. WHY do you want him then? That's the question.

Well first, we are college program and he's built for the college game. Neither his style of play nor physical gifts are NBA.

Second, in college as a sophomore, he will likely improve and since he fits the college game more-so than the NBA, he's got the potential to dominate and provide much needed leadership down the road.

Jus totally different situations.
 
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What GM would put this in writing, not knowing what other teams picks would be, and therefore, not knowing who would be available when their pick came due?
 
Well first, we are college program and he's built for the college game. Neither his style of play nor physical gifts are NBA.

Second, in college as a sophomore, he will likely improve and since he fits the college game more-so than the NBA, he's got the potential to dominate and provide much needed leadership down the road.

Jus totally different situations.
Kind of sad you had to explain it to him.
 
Someone promises me with a check they will draft me,I'll go with that.Half a million sounds like a good promise cash the check when it's written.
 
Well first, we are college program and he's built for the college game. Neither his style of play nor physical gifts are NBA.

Second, in college as a sophomore, he will likely improve and since he fits the college game more-so than the NBA, he's got the potential to dominate and provide much needed leadership down the road.

Jus totally different situations.

exactly. just like gabriel and skj returned, improved, and dominated. and the leadership they provided in year 2 lead to a great great year.
 
exactly. just like gabriel and skj returned, improved, and dominated. and the leadership they provided in year 2 lead to a great great year.
Why are you here? Seriously? If it were up to you, there wouldn’t be CBB. Again, why are you on a CBB message board? Stick with your NBA and leave us College fans alone. Good grief.
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exactly. just like gabriel and skj returned, improved, and dominated. and the leadership they provided in year 2 lead to a great great year.

Obviously not all players are going to follow the logic, but most of the time a player as good as Pj would. He's better than Gabriel and SKJ, hell SKJ was never going to shine here and wont at UNC.
 
Why didn't his dad teach him to play basketball? I know this is harsh but.... PJ had no outside shot, no inside footwork, bad passer, bad basketball IQ, takes plays off. All of that could have been worked on by putting in the work. And if his dad think's PJ's a lock as an NBA player, they must smoke the good stuff in Vegas, bad Dad basketball IQ. I'm ready to reload.
 
Hope he stays but seems like they all want to leave early now, it’s the way of the world, money,money,money.
 
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