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Our guy KAT is starting to do big things in the NBA

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Following Minnesota's overtime win against the Bulls last night, this tweet was posted.



Towns had another terrific game. 17 points, 13 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks, 1 steal, 0 turnovers.
Highlights to his game below.

 
Okafor will probably have a higher ppg than KAT, but that will be it. KAT will have higher stats in all other categories. If the Wolves can keep clicking and stay healthy, they have an outside shot at that 8th playoff spot. This would solidify KAT AS ROY.
 
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well, he sure looks trimmer, quicker, stronger, faster, and just better overall fitness from a year ago to be sure. Begs to the imagination of what it would be like for these guys to play more than just one year of college ball. But all we have to credit for that is the NBA's system of restricted earnings against players in their first 3 seasons. Never again will there be a time when the best new talent plays college ball for more than just a year, or maybe less. This is not the fault of any college program or any player. As John Calipari has repeatedly stated, it isn't his rule.

I have written many posts about my recollection of those days, when the general public, basketball fans, etc., agreed with the notions of persons like Charles Barkley who espoused his bitterness when Glen Robinson signed his then rookie-record 10 year, 70 million dollar contract after being drafted as the #1 pick out of Purdue. Those were 1994 dollars, and with the Milwaukee Bucks of all franchises. Barkley was able to sway the public opinion, by arguing that the process of a rookie negotiating evenly with his new employer for an earnings package was unfair to league veterans. The NBA general manager corps. were happy to agree with him, and implemented the rookie scale cap. Two decades later, the #1 pick in the draft still earns less . . . much less. And now the path to profitability includes the strategy to maximize the number of players on league rosters restricted by the 3-year rookie scale. NBA employers are happy to offer to them jobs. And clearly, a good strategy for young players is to complete the "apprenticeship" at the earliest age possible, in order to be able to negotiate that first open contract at, say, 22 - 23, instead of, say, 25 - 26, as fewer remaining years are available the older the player becomes. This is just simple math that even an 18 year old can do.

For any persons in the general public who agreed with Mr. Barkley at the time - who accepted the argument that Glen Robinson's contract and process of negotiating in good faith with his new employer was corrupt and greedy - those are the people who are responsible for why players like Karl Anthony Towns do not stay in college or, prior to the "one year removed rule," (implemented 2006 if I recall correctly) often did not play in college at all.
 
Only thing i like better in NBA is officiating...it is much better

Officiating can make or break the game. Pretty big thing. Honestly, I like the NBA environment more too. It doesn't have the school pride or anything like that, but small things from, being allowed to have artificial noise-makers, to something as simple as the way announcers just announce things, and so on. I do like college basketball more, but I think there are a few things that college athletics could pick up from its professional counterparts that would make college athletics so much more fun for everybody.
 
well, he sure looks trimmer, quicker, stronger, faster, and just better overall fitness from a year ago to be sure. Begs to the imagination of what it would be like for these guys to play more than just one year of college ball. But all we have to credit for that is the NBA's system of restricted earnings against players in their first 3 seasons. Never again will there be a time when the best new talent plays college ball for more than just a year, or maybe less. This is not the fault of any college program or any player. As John Calipari has repeatedly stated, it isn't his rule.

I have written many posts about my recollection of those days, when the general public, basketball fans, etc., agreed with the notions of persons like Charles Barkley who espoused his bitterness when Glen Robinson signed his then rookie-record 10 year, 70 million dollar contract after being drafted as the #1 pick out of Purdue. Those were 1994 dollars, and with the Milwaukee Bucks of all franchises. Barkley was able to sway the public opinion, by arguing that the process of a rookie negotiating evenly with his new employer for an earnings package was unfair to league veterans. The NBA general manager corps. were happy to agree with him, and implemented the rookie scale cap. Two decades later, the #1 pick in the draft still earns less . . . much less. And now the path to profitability includes the strategy to maximize the number of players on league rosters restricted by the 3-year rookie scale. NBA employers are happy to offer to them jobs. And clearly, a good strategy for young players is to complete the "apprenticeship" at the earliest age possible, in order to be able to negotiate that first open contract at, say, 22 - 23, instead of, say, 25 - 26, as fewer remaining years are available the older the player becomes. This is just simple math that even an 18 year old can do.

For any persons in the general public who agreed with Mr. Barkley at the time - who accepted the argument that Glen Robinson's contract and process of negotiating in good faith with his new employer was corrupt and greedy - those are the people who are responsible for why players like Karl Anthony Towns do not stay in college or, prior to the "one year removed rule," (implemented 2006 if I recall correctly) often did not play in college at all.
This is 100% right.

One thing I'd add is that the whole idea of guys having to play 4 years in college didn't change because a player challenged it, it changed because an NBA OWNER wanted a specific player. Sam Shulman, the original owner of the Sonics, decided he absolutely had to have Spencer Haywoood (who had left college after 2 years, then played a year in the ABA). It was Shulman who encouraged Haywood to launch the antitrust suit against the NBA that led to the abolition of the "4 years in college" rule for draft picks- probably the single most important court case in the history of professional sports, because it was the first time that a pro league got nailed for anti-trust violations (which were the foundation for all forms of free agency, in any professional sport you can name).

The NBA has developed a system designed to exploit young players. The best way for those players to experience the least exploitation is to enter the league as young as possible. If the NBA really wanted guys to stay in college longer, all they'd have to do is come up with a system where it paid off in the long run for a player to try to maximize his draft position. They don't, and won't, do that, because NBA owners know it's a far better deal to take a few more chances and possibly lock up the next LeBron for 3 years at 15 million dollars than to have to give 70 million dollars to the next Glenn Robinson.
 
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KAT obviously leads in ROY tallies at this point.

Okafor at Philly was a big mistake. Their chances to make any playoffs rivals the Knicks, who IMO are tough to watch.

Minnesota has a lot of potential already, but they'll need stellar play from their backcourt. That is their crutch right now.
 
KAT obviously leads in ROY tallies at this point.

Okafor at Philly was a big mistake. Their chances to make any playoffs rivals the Knicks, who IMO are tough to watch.

Minnesota has a lot of potential already, but they'll need stellar play from their backcourt. That is their crutch right now.

I disagree. Noel and Okafor are great together. And Okafor does not rebound as much in part due to a much superior rebounder in Noel out there with him so much. I think KAT will definitely be rookie of the year though. And it could have been worse for Philly, they could have got Russell!
 
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I disagree. Noel and Okafor are great together. And Okafor does not rebound as much in part due to a much superior rebounder in Noel out there with him so much. I think KAT will definitely be rookie of the year though. And it could have been worse for Philly, they could have got Russell!

Noel plays the PF on that team. Okafor outweighs Noel by a good amount, and Okafor is a true low-post center. Is there any reason at all that he should be getting out-rebounded by Noel?
 
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Following Minnesota's overtime win against the Bulls last night, this tweet was posted.



Towns had another terrific game. 17 points, 13 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks, 1 steal, 0 turnovers.
Highlights to his game below.

Wow, those are some impressive all-around highlights. Hard to believe he is only a year removed from high school when watching that. Just a great feel and instincts for the game. It will be interesting to watch what his ceiling ends up being.
 
They don't, and won't, do that, because NBA owners know it's a far better deal to take a few more chances and possibly lock up the next LeBron for 3 years at 15 million dollars than to have to give 70 million dollars to the next Glenn Robinson.

Spot on, for the most part, but don't kid yourself. The 2015 alternative of those 1994 dollars would be a staggering figure. To compare what it would be, they are getting the modern lottery picks for free. Literally. For free.
 
I have tried to watch the NBA but I just can't get into it. Maybe it's because I grew up in an area that didn't have a team or just because UK basketball filled that need so early on, I'm not sure.

With that said, I am getting much more into it now that so many cats are there. That highlight reel was impressive and KAT looks a lot more filled out than he did just 6 months ago. Other than Davis I can't remember a better transformation. Looks like the pro-regimen has done wonders for him!
 
I disagree. Noel and Okafor are great together. And Okafor does not rebound as much in part due to a much superior rebounder in Noel out there with him so much. I think KAT will definitely be rookie of the year though. And it could have been worse for Philly, they could have got Russell!

I think the even bigger mistake was New Orleans trading Noel, who could have teamed up with AD. That would be a much better dynamic frontcourt. AD > Okafor
Now, you have Embiid, Noel, and Okafor all trying to make it work without any significant guards to help out. Looks like Philly is handling the process bass-ackwards developing the inside game.

Someone is going to have to be moved in that rotation if they're going to move up and compete for a W. Tough times in Philly IMO.
 
you can really tell Garnett loves playing with Karl. Having Kevin around you can't hurt. I believe Minnesota has the pieces to make the playoffs if nobody gets hurt like say Rubio or Wiggins. Karl would dominate against the Warriors in a series I'd bet. Bogut and Festus lol. It boggles my mind that Golden State wins games using Bogut, festus, draymond green, and Harrison suckass Barnes. Curry is freaking superman
 
I think the even bigger mistake was New Orleans trading Noel, who could have teamed up with AD. That would be a much better dynamic frontcourt. AD > Okafor
Now, you have Embiid, Noel, and Okafor all trying to make it work without any significant guards to help out. Looks like Philly is handling the process bass-ackwards developing the inside game.

Someone is going to have to be moved in that rotation if they're going to move up and compete for a W. Tough times in Philly IMO.

Philly's plan is to collect assets.

They figure eventually they will hit a Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, LeBron James type of home run and be set for a decade.

Right or wrong, that's what they are going for.
 
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Not true by a longshot. Maybe most people that you happen to know, but the NFL is wildly popular, way, way, way beyond anything college football can dream of.

It's easier for a causal fan that doesn't really follow sports or have tons of time to watch the NFL. One game a week, short 16 game season, and it's the same players so they don't have to keep up on rosters. To me, it's the most boring league of any sport. Just a totally overrated league IMO.

I would say (purely anecdotal of course) that the attention span of the average American today can keep up as well.

The NFL is not better or more entertaining than any other sport. It's just got some things going for it today that help make it seem that way.
 
It's easier for a causal fan that doesn't really follow sports or have tons of time to watch the NFL. One game a week, short 16 game season, and it's the same players so they don't have to keep up on rosters. To me, it's the most boring league of any sport. Just a totally overrated league IMO.

I would say (purely anecdotal of course) that the attention span of the average American today can keep up as well.

The NFL is not better or more entertaining than any other sport. It's just got some things going for it today that help make it seem that way.

Interesting take. I can't really compare since I don't view the different sports the same. It's like trying to compare your favorite dinner and your favorite dessert. Both are awesome but in different ways. (Of course I'm comparing the NFL to college BB and not the NBA as my two favorite sports).
 
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It's easier for a causal fan that doesn't really follow sports or have tons of time to watch the NFL. One game a week, short 16 game season, and it's the same players so they don't have to keep up on rosters. To me, it's the most boring league of any sport. Just a totally overrated league IMO.

I would say (purely anecdotal of course) that the attention span of the average American today can keep up as well.

The NFL is not better or more entertaining than any other sport. It's just got some things going for it today that help make it seem that way.
I actually agree with a lot of that, but I was addressing popularity, not quality. 2 different concepts. The NFL is the 800 pound gorilla of sports. You'll find a lot of people who are more emotionally invested in a specific college team, but in terms of drawing eyeballs and interest on a national level, the pro game towers over the college game.
 
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Couldn't disagree more.
Well I am a basketball fan first, so I prefer games that feature better players, shooters, officiating, athletes, better basketball, etc and that is why I like the NBA more. Also, I have been to many D League games and they are a lot of fun. Littered with former college stars and is officiated like an NBA game.
 
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