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OT: Twitter in Absolute Shambles

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Yeah, the DOJ/FBI working in concert with Twitter to silence the siting POTUS in addition to censoring and lying about significantly damaging information regarding his opponent in an effort to alter a US Presidential election is no big deal.
Not trying to downplay anything, was a genuine question.
 
Not trying to downplay anything, was a genuine question.
The files also show it was Trump's political opponents who pushed for his suspension. Many other Republican candidates were Shadow banned, (meaning hardly anyone saw their posts, and the candidates were not banned from posting.) In any other time in this country, elected officials would see this a vastly illegal, and treasonous. Facebook owner has already admitted that Facebook did the same thing as FBI and other government officials pressured them to squash political opinions in the name of Mis or Dis information.
 
Researching where?

Plenty of different websites and sources. Included this article from Fox so you all don't think I'm completely biased. Very bottom of the page seems to dispute any government overreach conspiracy: There is no evidence from the Twitter Files that the federal government had a hand in suppression of the Hunter Biden story. However, the fact that Twitter executives had met with DNI officials indicates that Twitter was aware that there was no actual U.S. intelligence that suggested the content from Hunter Biden's purported laptop was "Russian disinformation." The company declined to share that information with the press before the election.
 
Which they are fully within their rights to do, private companies like Twitter are not required to allow everyone to use their services.
okay, why did the previous twitter employees not ban thousands of users for tweeting child porn? Why did they let Iranian and Chinese officials of Communism to continue tweeting? I will not even get started at the hundreds of Anti-Semitic users continue to spread hate against the Jewish people. You can believe your own argument, but the cancellation on Twitter was directed at the Conservative movement and republican candidates. Our state media, NBC, CBS, MSNBC already do this. I guess your viewpoint is the Media can do whatever they want. As long as they have enough sheep watching to pay the bills.
 
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okay, why did the previous twitter employees not ban thousands of users for tweeting child porn? Why did they let Iranian and Chinese officials of Communism to continue tweeting? I will not even get started at the hundreds of Anti-Semitic users continue to spread hate against the Jewish people. You can believe your own argument, but the cancellation on Twitter was directed at the Conservative movement and republican candidates. Our state media, NBC, CBS, MSNBC already do this. I guess your viewpoint is the Media can do whatever they want. As long as they have enough sheep watching to pay the bills.
As long as they are following the law, then for the most part, yes, they can do what they want. Child porn is disgusting, obviously, and Twitter being slow to remove that content from its site is also disgusting. That is clearly a serious issue when it comes to content filtering. As far as Communism and Anti-Semitism, there are no laws forcing Twitter to remove that content. If Twitter viewed Trump as violating their rules and regulations when he was banned from their sight, then they are fully allowed to do so no matter if we think it's some kind of conspiracy or not.
 
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One of the most interesting developments of the last 5-10 years, is the left’s default position now being to support, in lockstep, large multinational corporations trampling on American citizens. A complete 180 in their stated belief.

Of course, when those multinational corporations espouse the same political belief system as you do, then it’s a lot easier to understand why the turnabout. Still crazy to think that half of Americans have abandoned the belief in freedom of speech.
 
One of the most interesting developments of the last 5-10 years, is the left’s default position now being to support, in lockstep, large multinational corporations trampling on American citizens. A complete 180 in their stated belief.

Of course, when those multinational corporations espouse the same political belief system as you do, then it’s a lot easier to understand why the turnabout. Still crazy to think that half of Americans have abandoned the belief in freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech only applies to the government not corporations. Also, freedom of speech doesn't mean that you are free of the consequences of your speech.
 
One of the most interesting developments of the last 5-10 years, is the left’s default position now being to support, in lockstep, large multinational corporations trampling on American citizens. A complete 180 in their stated belief.

Of course, when those multinational corporations espouse the same political belief system as you do, then it’s a lot easier to understand why the turnabout. Still crazy to think that half of Americans have abandoned the belief in freedom of speech.


Will be funny to watch the tide turn when a few lunatic lefties don’t have control over the message that is amplified on mass social media.

When the Nike board room realizes they can get back to just exploiting low wage child labor and don’t even have to tweet a rainbow or celebrate Juneteenth for cover, because no one besides the artificially amplified lefties gave a shit to begin with, they’ll be right back to ignoring the left.
 
I guess our resident liberals believe silencing half of America on one of the largest social media there is just fine. It’s amazing how the liberals just think they silence us and we go away. We’re not ****ing away
 
When do we know who wins/is right? Does he have to sell Twitter for like 28 million or less, bankrupt or if it survives and becomes just as popular as ever or does it have to be more popular?

I need defined lines so I can know in two years to check back in here.
It's already more popular. Traffic was wayyy up. They are purging bots and Elon seemed to act like they had found tons and that people would see a drop over the next week or 2 so to expect to lose followers or comments.
 
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As someone who’s not really into politics and not on Twitter this is pretty insane. I also can’t believe how little I’ve heard about it outside this thread. Really awful, troubling stuff. Thank god this is getting cleaned up, seriously. This is legitimately something that will benefit society moving forward.
I would just humbly ask you to consider that some of the other stuff some of us mention is just as provable but just as covered up.
 
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@MatteoV25 you're arguing that a private entity ought not have the same obligations as the government.

I don't disagree necessarily, but at what point is the public allowed to push back on what a private enterprise is selling? The dopamine effect that happens from a like on Twitter has been likened to very addictive stuff.

If misinformation was being used in other arenas (pharmaceuticals, tobacco, communism, etc.) even in private enterprises wouldn't that be something we should take exception to?

These folks in northern California, are peddling information they choose to, no matter how you look at it. I use Twitter for recruiting updates, but I'm still flooded with fake news. Is that right?
 
@MatteoV25 you're arguing that a private entity ought not have the same obligations as the government.

I don't disagree necessarily, but at what point is the public allowed to push back on what a private enterprise is selling? The dopamine effect that happens from a like on Twitter has been likened to very addictive stuff.

If misinformation was being used in other arenas (pharmaceuticals, tobacco, communism, etc.) even in private enterprises wouldn't that be something we should take exception to?

These folks in northern California, are peddling information they choose to, no matter how you look at it. I use Twitter for recruiting updates, but I'm still flooded with fake news. Is that right?
Twitter wasn't a private co. They were a publicly traded co. That comes with rules and regulations that private a co doesn't have. People keep saying this to try to hide the huge fiduciary failures all these people at Twitter were making. I honestly think the reason Elon is going this route is to be able to sue all the former higher ups to recoup tons of money from his payouts.

vijaya was making over $13million a year or something. Think about that for a co that was losing money until Trump ran for president and then started losing money again after they banned him. You don't have to like Trump but he drove traffic on the site and the people in charge of twitter were making personal political decisions instead of thinking about the stock holder.
 
@MatteoV25 you're arguing that a private entity ought not have the same obligations as the government.

I don't disagree necessarily, but at what point is the public allowed to push back on what a private enterprise is selling? The dopamine effect that happens from a like on Twitter has been likened to very addictive stuff.

If misinformation was being used in other arenas (pharmaceuticals, tobacco, communism, etc.) even in private enterprises wouldn't that be something we should take exception to?

These folks in northern California, are peddling information they choose to, no matter how you look at it. I use Twitter for recruiting updates, but I'm still flooded with fake news. Is that right?
The public is allowed to push back on a private entity at any point really. That’s the beauty of a free market, with so many different options, you can find anything that you want so if you believe Twitter is peddling misinformation, go somewhere else, same with Facebook, Truth Social, etc. Now when it comes to the other industries you mentioned, there are more strict laws in place to prevent misinformation from spreading since pharmaceuticals and tobacco products directly impact the physical health of the public. News outlets and social media platforms have laws that are much more lenient, that’s why, for example, you see guys like Alex Jones make millions off spreading conspiracy theories and then when he gets sued over it, use the excuse that he was doing it as an entertainment show and his audience should know the difference between entertainment TV and truthful news reporting (paraphrasing his argument).
 
As expected, Musk is unveiling Twitter for what we already knew it was. Ran by a bunch of incompetent socialist/communists doing the bidding of the government who did everything possible (outside of assassination) to get rid of a POTUS they were desperate to get out of office.

You do not become the richest man to ever live on this planet by being stupid. He knows exactly what he is doing and in time will turn Twitter into a money printing machine.
 

Not just common knowledge, but almost surely part of the overall plan and with full knowledge of the us. That's why compliance wasn't at issue, because it was basically waived.

Twitter was being paid/ran by the US shadow state and/Chinese government. These countries were absolutely funding the company as well. That's why despite apparent financial difficulties noone there ever took cost cutting measures that you'd see at any other company. It's also why you saw "advertising revenue" plummet when musk took over. It was never advertising at all. It was nation state revenue disguised as advertising.

These other social media sites are as bad if not worse. Nothing on social media is real. It's all a curated socially engineered experience to destroy our culture and nation
 
I've never believed for one second that Elon Musk spent $40 Billion of his money just to get his political opinions heard. Here's what I think is actually going on. Tesla is a largely successful company but nearly half of it's US sales are in the state of California, arguable one of the most liberal states in the county. The Tesla brand has taken on the image of being a car for the "latte liberal" so much so that it's shunned and even mocked and ridiculed by some on the right.

That type of extreme branding is preventing Teslas from penetrating markets in red states. It's an image problem, which in my opinion may have factored into his decision to move his facilities to Texas, as well as buying the second largest social media platform to reinvent himself and his brand.

So to see where Twitter is going, follow the money.
 
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