Oklahoma is dirty
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Kerr losing it? Usually he wants to burn their village.
Still no clue what happened at the end of the game that had everyone going nuts.
One that I will say is this. SEC teams have issues in NCAA tourney games for the very reasons people are posting issues with fouls now. SEC games are like old Big East Games, rough and mostly not worth watching. SEC meetings with officials before the season must go something like this. We are a football conference, just because it is played on hardwood we still want an SEC football type of game. Teams like texas, Ark, Miss St and so forth will have a hard time in NCAA tourney. It is officiated differently. Games need to be watch worthy.
Off the ball and on rebounds, its basically all out war. With the occasional touch foul thrown in, because of course.
Wague played 12 minutes for OK last night and had 4 fouls. It seems like they were watching him pretty close. Butler played 20 minutes and fouled out. Lamont was rusty and thus was not as quick and sharp as usual. He had 3 turnovers but 6 assists. He only took 2 shots which is not surprising being hurt for such a long period. We really can't say he was targeted by the refs for his fouls. I did not think any of his fouls we not really a foul. Why has our fanbase resorted to blaming the refs for everything? We are better than that and makes us look like we deserve preferred treatment from the refs & SEC. I will tell you that the SEC wants nothing more than for us to be nationally elite again. Keep in mind that Pope assembled our team in short order and as a whole we do not have superior athletes compared to most teams in SEC. We have the best spot up shooters than anyone in the SEC but most can't create their on shot. This creates a team that has not so good defense because the lack of quickness. What Pope has done with the kids he could assemble is nothing short of greatness. When we get quick kids that other teams hav a tough time of staying in front of, our kids will shift the foul numbers toward our competition. Last night for our "it is the refs fault, fans, we shot more free throws than OK. we made 18 out of 24 FT. OK shot 17 and made 12. We won the game on the free throw line.
If officials don't clean this crap up, it will make the game almost unwatchable. I have never seen so much holding, grabbing, body bumping out on the perimeter, that stuff usually only happens in the paint. But that seems to be the way some teams stop the 3 and as long as they are allowed to do it, they will keep doing it and other teams will start doing it as well.
For this reason, assuming Vandy makes it in the tournament I think they are a good pick for a couple of upsets. They don’t need the refs to allow a very physical game for them to win.
Again Givens very frustrated with the refs. Bothers him the most when the things called on our end is not called on their end. When Fears hooked his defender to get by him and they did not call hooking on him but called us for a foul Givens said that everyone but the refs knows that is what Fears does all the time. It was in our scouting report that he does that repeatedly but they never call him for it. Wonder why? And when they ran over Butler it was called on Butler for blocking. Think that didn't have a huge bearing on the game with Butler not playing the last four minutes because of the refs???
The blocking fouls are the worst. If an offensive player run over a defender, 90+% of time it is called a block. Not just on KY but on everyone on every team in every conference. You see a defender standing dead still with their arms straight up and an offensive guy flattens him and bingo, BLOCKING. This hurts basketball more than any other change that has occured in officiating.
I don’t think as many fans blame the refs for our losses as people think. I do think our fans accuse the refs of being incompetent and the sport suffers.
Unfortunately I was forced to watch the end of the Vandy/A&m game and can confirm, refs just suck.
Unfortunately I was forced to watch the end of the Vandy/A&m game and can confirm, refs just suck.
Ansley and Butler both attempted to draw charges and both incidents weren't against us. Now OU flopped on Amari and it was called a charge. Three calls that were the same and it was called inconsistently.
Yeah, on Amari's charge call against him, he definitely wrapped his legs around Amari's, which is why Amari stayed down grasping his lower leg.
My issue with officiating is related to what I've bolded in your post. Pope's offense tries to create shots with constant motion/cuts. If the defender is allowed to hold/grab, it illegally eliminates the advantage the players on this roster could manufacturer.
In addition, illegal screens by the opponents create a similar problem... if a defender is significantly quicker/more athletic than the offensive player, he may still recover from having to navigate around a moving screen. However, when the quickness/athleticism is equal OR the defender is slightly slower, the benefit of an illegal screen is magnified b/c the defender has essentially zero chance to recover. Godwin from OK, Milicic from UT are examples of this...Godwin was constantly hip checking, and once he even lowered a shoulder. Milicic was setting screens with his arms extended out and pushing the defender as they were trying to go around him.
The other horrific illegal screen occurs for the ball handler. As soon as the defender approaches the screen, the screener (usually a big) begins a roll to the basket while pinning the ball defender. That is a moving screen, and it is almost indefensible b/c when the defender on the screener tries to hedge or switch, the ball handler just stays tucked up under the screener with a clear path to the rim.
So, I am not asking for a rule change to benefit the Cats. I am frustrated that the rules are NOT being called.
I do agree that officials need to quick bailing out offensive players who just flail into defenders. It should either be a no call, a travel or a charge...i.e. when Fears bowled over Butler last night, that was either a travel or a charge.
With that said, I think the constant holding/grabbing actually make the game worse. It prevents ball movement OR in the case of moving screens (on or off the ball), it prevents good defense.
Wow, someone with understanding of the game, congrats, maybe some may learn something.
BINGO!!!! All fans want is a fair shake, but want to get a little more than the competition, then they're happy, if they win. The game needs to be cleaned up, the excessive fouling hurts the flow of the game. The last 3 or 4 minutes of the Vandy & A&M game took around 45 minutes, that's bull hockey.
I hope he runs a model that proves, once and for all, that you are a Louisville fan.
What a weirdo. Just throwing out random insults when there are over 5k messages that disprove that.
