OK.. New rumors. DIS spins off ESPN.... What do we do?
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Don’t know what to tell you, I’ve been hooked to the neighbors illegally for years. Good luck and I hope you get it cheap.
I have over 18 streaming subscriptions including dish and cable - about 680 a month. I would be fine paying 20 for ESPN.
What in the world are you talking about? What’s DIS? What’s the rumor? Spin off of what? I have no idea what’s going on
I'm right there with you. I feel like I walked into the middle of a conversation.
Disney. Lulz.
You know, DIS and DAT 🤣
Sorry man. Disney looking to spin off Espn making it separate from their offerings currently. Espn then looks like a subscription service. The end of the bundle for some?
I get ya. Do you drop anything or does anything become obsolete if espn is its own subscription? Also I just used 20 as an example. Could be 30, who knows?
Well I started with DISH but my service would go out often where I live (Idaho) so I got spectrum but was still in contract with DISH. Then I don’t get a lot of regional sports where I’m at so I had to get those in addition to usual streaming stuff (Netflix, HULU, HBOMAX, etc) and it just kind of ballooned from there.
Probably drop cable all together as you can watch everything other than sports with streaming services.
Truly hate that SEC did a contract with ESPN. Losing the CBS Contract is what sickens me as a FB fan. ESPN ruins just about everything it touches.
That’s a lot of wasted money, I need your job apparently.
I record myself on YouTube opening LOL doll (small children’s dolls) packages.
Its probably smart of Disney to get rid of ESPN
outside of soccer, sports viewing on the whole is declining and ESPN is already at the point where they can't charge any more thru cable companies or they'll start getting dropped like so many of the startup streaming platforms that dont' include ESPN as part of their package and can charge $25 a month, so ESPN's revenue has been declining. ESPN is $7 to $9 of every cable bill if you get ESPN as part of the package. 2/3rd of their revenue is from subscriptions. They lost more than 13m cable subscribers between 2012 and 2018. They aren't going broke by any means, but they've had to keep raising their costs to cover their sports commitments. In 2019 their subscription package brought in about $7.5b, but their contract commitment to air sports was $8b.
Now imagine being in a model where you are losing subscribers, you have to jack up prices to meet your obligations, and your income is solely based on ad revenue which leads to the next issue
Sportscenter used to be a value add before the internet and smart phones, now Sportscenter is useless, so they have to go to opinion focused programming so you'll want to know why team X won, what their chances are to win a championship, etc
which then leans into sportscasters taking liberties on reporting - race, politics, etc start entering into the need to fill up air time
so now you've got divisive commentary entering into the mix at a time when people who don't want to hear it have plenty of other options including a plethora of free sports-specific apps and content generators creating up-to-date content on streaming platforms as fast as ESPN can crank it out.
With the advent of super conferences, this may or may not help ESPN. Imagine what the SEC can demand with a conference that has Bama, Georga, Texas, A&M , Clemson and FSU?
outside of soccer, sports viewing on the whole is declining and ESPN is already at the point where they can't charge any more thru cable companies or they'll start getting dropped like so many of the startup streaming platforms that dont' include ESPN as part of their package and can charge $25 a month, so ESPN's revenue has been declining. ESPN is $7 to $9 of every cable bill if you get ESPN as part of the package. 2/3rd of their revenue is from subscriptions. They lost more than 13m cable subscribers between 2012 and 2018. They aren't going broke by any means, but they've had to keep raising their costs to cover their sports commitments. In 2019 their subscription package brought in about $7.5b, but their contract commitment to air sports was $8b.
Now imagine being in a model where you are losing subscribers, you have to jack up prices to meet your obligations, and your income is solely based on ad revenue which leads to the next issue
Sportscenter used to be a value add before the internet and smart phones, now Sportscenter is useless, so they have to go to opinion focused programming so you'll want to know why team X won, what their chances are to win a championship, etc
which then leans into sportscasters taking liberties on reporting - race, politics, etc start entering into the need to fill up air time
so now you've got divisive commentary entering into the mix at a time when people who don't want to hear it have plenty of other options including a plethora of free sports-specific apps and content generators creating up-to-date content on streaming platforms as fast as ESPN can crank it out.
With the advent of super conferences, this may or may not help ESPN. Imagine what the SEC can demand with a conference that has Bama, Georga, Texas, A&M , Clemson and FSU?
Thanks for making me feel better. I have second tier Direct TV streaming, Netflix, Hulu,Paramount plus,Amazon prime, Apple TV , HBO Max, and thought I was nuts .
Can I just buy a subscription to see every UK basketball and football game on a consistent platform? At this point, keeping track of the never-ending changes to figure out what content is on what app exhausts me.
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sorry.. I wasn't to clear originally. I saw it this morning on the bloomberg wire... I think they need more help than just not spending the billion in FLA... Disney has some issues, and for evidence see stock price. There were a ton of rumors late last year that they were going to spin off ESPN to make it its own app/subscription service, but disney denied them. Now they are popping up again. Thats why I thought it may begin to unwind the bundle.
There's been those rumors ever since before ESPN+ was invented. They use it to sell their worth to the cable and satellite providers. When you break down how much people pay on cable/satellite, almost 30% of it is for ESPN and now they exclusively own the rights to the SEC. If anything I think Disney understands the worth of having ESPN, and sees the cycles of how they build it. At the end of the day Disney doesn't have near as many issues as Republican Lawmakers swear that they have. Stock price is currently $10 less than this day 5 years ago. Take away the insane bump they got during COVID which made zero sense and you will find them still comfortable to own.
Yeah Disney lost $123B in market value in 2022 & its stock closed the year down 44%. Disney+ has lost over 4M subscribers in the last quarter alone, so, it’s likely still dropping & losing more $. And, they also lost their sovereignty in FL that they had for the last 60 years & now have to pay taxes & pay for permits to build on, after trying to bully Florida’s government on a certain bill. Another huge hit, financially. You hate to see it. 😂
I spend 70 bucks for Internet. 7 bucks for prime. Roku on TV. When college football and basketball starts up I add YouTube tv for 70 bucks. I drop it after basketball. I don't like watching news networks, so I catch highlights on YouTube. Have thousands of free movies to choose from.
I couldn't agree with this more. It doesn't matter the sport, ESPN's broadcast will be worse than the alternative.
I will never give Disney a cent after what they were doing and uplifting in Florida. And it looks like, but they’re dropping market value, that other people voting with their dollar too. I won’t give Netflix any money either after they made that “cuties” or whatever movie that was that was made by a pedophile. Also won’t give money to YT since they like censor people.
Right now we have hbo max and just spend more time outside and with family than we used to.
Right now we have hbo max and just spend more time outside and with family than we used to.
What they got planned? A sequel or new movie Glory Road 2 coming out. FyyuUK Disney!!
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