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Regardless of who is coach (not a discussion in this thread), although I think it will be Cal, how do we see next season with so MANY unknowns on our roster

Mintz and Grady 100% eligibility gone.
After that, nothing is certain.

Tyty - most likely 95%+ gone, but we have been basing that on draft projections by people who aren't associated with NBA teams. If I am an NBA GM, I look at Tyty's last 8 games or so, I'm not impressed. Even looking at the whole season, he does a lot of things well, has a good "feel for the game", but isn't great at anything. Honestly he looks like a guy who won't contribute as a rookie, but may in a year or two, but even then won't be a star, but rather may be a 3rd or 4th guard (combo). So suppose he goes to workouts, and doesn't impress and is told you are a mid-late 1st round pick, maybe even early 2nd. Could he return then? IDK, maybe.

Sharpe - 80% gone IMO. Who knows. Maybe Cal thought (right or wrong) that adding him in the rotation in Feb would mess with Chemistry; or maybe Sharpe said not playing this year. Only those 2 know. He would only be smart to test the waters. If after that he is told (by teams) he is a top 5 pick, then yeah he's gotta go, because that means they think he can contribute year 1. But if he drops to 10-15, I mean he is a mystery to teams. Maybe he's not ready for the physicality of the NBA and will need an extra year. But from listening to his handler in that one interview 2 months ago, the guy understands that for Sharpe the "big Win" isn't getting drafted as early or as soon as possible, the "big Win" is getting a Max-Deal contract after his 3rd season. So just maybe they see playing 1 year at UK as a way to increase the odds of that, even though it puts it off 1 year. Either way, stay & NIL or go & rookie contract, he ain't going to be broke, far from it.
* If Sharpe goes pro, we will bring in a top SG transfer

Oscar -70% gone. Even though he has nice touch and form from 15-17', his release is a bit slow, and he's not expanded it out to 3pt range yet. So yeah another year could improve that area. Although if that becomes a focus for him, do NOT expect him to get 15rpg again, 10-12 may be more like it. Now that he has NIL certainly helps our odds, as does his love for UK and KY. Although with his personality, I think he would be like that almost anywhere. Oscar too has to test the waters. And I think teams, especially playoff teams, who need a piece, not a star, but a specialist to come in and gobble up offensive rebounds and kick back out to open 3pt shooters, would like him well enough that 1 will take him late in the 1st round. Obviously wanting to help his family is first for him, can NIL do that, I hope so; but NBA certainly can.
* If we lose Oscar, we will bring in a top 4/5 transfer (probably rim-protector type)

Collins - 40% gone. I'm sure he is frustrated by his PT. But going against Oscar every day, he can surely see the difference. Even in games how many times did he get the rebound only to have a defender take it away from him. So he is not strong enough, YET. I correctly predicted his limited contributions this year. And I am also predicting, if he stays, that he will be a VERY BIG contributor for us next year (like 14, 8 & 4, ...yes 4 blks). I think if Oscar leaves that increases the chances of Collins staying, if our coaches convinces him that he can play the 5 on DEF but still shoot some jumpers on offense.

Hopkins - 50% gone. Much the same as Collins. He's a bit out of shape, damn if we could transplant 20 lbs from him to Collins. But maybe a bit of that is due to his pre-season back issues (was it back?). I think for Hopkins he just sees the 2 guys ahead of him (Brooks and Toppin), and if 1 doesn't leave I think he will. If 1 of the 2 leaves, then I think a decent chance Hopkins stays. If both left I think he would be stupid to leave.

Ware - 10% gone. His offense is limited, and he has to know this. So yeah he could transfer, but it's going to be hard to start anywhere until you can play on both ends of the court.

Brooks - 30% gone. Although I don't know where to. He isn't going to get drafted. He'll be a SR, so degree-wise transferring might be odd. I guess there is overseas. Or maybe he doesn't want to be the scapegoat for a school as a SR, and transfers for that reason. I don't think he's as bad as many on here think, but he's never going to be a star player. He is what he is.

Toppin - 20% gone. Transfer is possible, but less likely than Brooks (3rd school). I think with his athleticism, if he did some workouts and made some shots a team could take him in the 2nd round. Is that good enough for him, IDK. And the Brooks decision probably affects him too.

Fredrick, he just transferred, is back "home", and hasn't played yet. So he will likely fill the Grady role, although maybe won't play that many minutes.
Wallace, I think can step into the Tyty role. Hope he's as good and well-rounded as we've been hearing past few weeks.
Livingston, I think his PT will depend on what Brooks and Toppin and Hopkins do, as well as how much of an outside game he has, allowing him to play some 3. But I could see him next year much like Hopkins this year just due to the numbers/roster.

Wheeler 30% gone. And hell no he's not going to NBA, 0% chance. International, I think would even be hard for him as I picture they value being able to shoot more than the US does. I think he transfers out "IF" Cal/coach X says we are going to bring in the best PG transfer (who can shoot) we can find and you will be given the opportunity to compete with him, so you may be a backup next year. And I think that is how it should go. If not for his shooting I think he would be a very good PG. But damn teams dare him to shoot from even 15'. If Tyty were to return, I think he would be our PG next year. So I see us bringing in a PG that can shoot. And we all know our current coach likes height at the PG.

Allen, 40% gone. When your role is to make 3's, and you can't make them. Not good! We know he can, he did last year. Maybe he thinks a change of scenery is for him, maybe not. But after this year, if he returns, you have to think he will be at the end of the bench until and if he can show he is a good 3pt shooter again.

So.....what will our roster look like? Who knows.
But below in my opinion is a best case scenario:
Oscar, Collins, Toppin, Ware, Hopkins, Livingston
Sharpe, Wallace, Fredrick, top PG transfer, Wheeler, Allen
Where minutes are probably (highest to lowest) Sharpe, Oscar, PG transfer, Collins, Toppin, Fredrick, Wallace, Wheeler, Hopkins, Ware, Livingston, Allen; with mostly an 8 man rotation (possibly 9).
 
Sadly I see a similar team to this year. Cason is the only impactful freshman, like to have transfers. I think your percentages are pretty good except for Brooks I think he’s gone. We probably gain a few transfers but overall nothing changes because we have the same man in charge.
 
We will be starting from scratch and be punching bag all year long. Im fresh out of empty optimism. We need a change in coach and then it will be couple of years before they have established. So basically let’s pick this conversation up in 2027.
 
I don’t personally think Oscar, TTW, or Sharpe return. If any one of those does, our prospects improve dramatically. If two of them do, we’ll be in contention for a top seed and a SEC title. If all three do, which again I don’t expect in the slightest, we’re probably title favorites.

the front court of Ware, Collins, Brooks, Toppin, and Hopkins is not exactly murderer’s row but it’s also clear that front court production is no indicator of tournament success.

I think we have a lot of turnover and go for a transfer portal all star team.
 
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The players that we have aren't our issue. We had a great group of players this year. Debating who is here and who isn't is kind of a moot point.
 
Not that it matters to anyone but me, I won’t be watching anymore UK MBB games with Cal as coach. But, for those of you that have a morbid fascination with crap CBB, and will watch, expect a minimum of 10-12 loses. Minimum!
 
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We will be starting from scratch and be punching bag all year long. Im fresh out of empty optimism. We need a change in coach and then it will be couple of years before they have established. So basically let’s pick this conversation up in 2027.
Sometimes it is possible to "catch lightning in a bottle" like Cal did in his first year. If we are lucky enough to get a competant head coach it is POSSIBLE with talented players to have a successful season. I'm not being 'Pollyana' - just desperately hopeful. LOL
 
Regardless of who is coach (not a discussion in this thread), although I think it will be Cal, how do we see next season with so MANY unknowns on our roster

Mintz and Grady 100% eligibility gone.
After that, nothing is certain.

Tyty - most likely 95%+ gone, but we have been basing that on draft projections by people who aren't associated with NBA teams. If I am an NBA GM, I look at Tyty's last 8 games or so, I'm not impressed. Even looking at the whole season, he does a lot of things well, has a good "feel for the game", but isn't great at anything. Honestly he looks like a guy who won't contribute as a rookie, but may in a year or two, but even then won't be a star, but rather may be a 3rd or 4th guard (combo). So suppose he goes to workouts, and doesn't impress and is told you are a mid-late 1st round pick, maybe even early 2nd. Could he return then? IDK, maybe.

Sharpe - 80% gone IMO. Who knows. Maybe Cal thought (right or wrong) that adding him in the rotation in Feb would mess with Chemistry; or maybe Sharpe said not playing this year. Only those 2 know. He would only be smart to test the waters. If after that he is told (by teams) he is a top 5 pick, then yeah he's gotta go, because that means they think he can contribute year 1. But if he drops to 10-15, I mean he is a mystery to teams. Maybe he's not ready for the physicality of the NBA and will need an extra year. But from listening to his handler in that one interview 2 months ago, the guy understands that for Sharpe the "big Win" isn't getting drafted as early or as soon as possible, the "big Win" is getting a Max-Deal contract after his 3rd season. So just maybe they see playing 1 year at UK as a way to increase the odds of that, even though it puts it off 1 year. Either way, stay & NIL or go & rookie contract, he ain't going to be broke, far from it.
* If Sharpe goes pro, we will bring in a top SG transfer

Oscar -70% gone. Even though he has nice touch and form from 15-17', his release is a bit slow, and he's not expanded it out to 3pt range yet. So yeah another year could improve that area. Although if that becomes a focus for him, do NOT expect him to get 15rpg again, 10-12 may be more like it. Now that he has NIL certainly helps our odds, as does his love for UK and KY. Although with his personality, I think he would be like that almost anywhere. Oscar too has to test the waters. And I think teams, especially playoff teams, who need a piece, not a star, but a specialist to come in and gobble up offensive rebounds and kick back out to open 3pt shooters, would like him well enough that 1 will take him late in the 1st round. Obviously wanting to help his family is first for him, can NIL do that, I hope so; but NBA certainly can.
* If we lose Oscar, we will bring in a top 4/5 transfer (probably rim-protector type)

Collins - 40% gone. I'm sure he is frustrated by his PT. But going against Oscar every day, he can surely see the difference. Even in games how many times did he get the rebound only to have a defender take it away from him. So he is not strong enough, YET. I correctly predicted his limited contributions this year. And I am also predicting, if he stays, that he will be a VERY BIG contributor for us next year (like 14, 8 & 4, ...yes 4 blks). I think if Oscar leaves that increases the chances of Collins staying, if our coaches convinces him that he can play the 5 on DEF but still shoot some jumpers on offense.

Hopkins - 50% gone. Much the same as Collins. He's a bit out of shape, damn if we could transplant 20 lbs from him to Collins. But maybe a bit of that is due to his pre-season back issues (was it back?). I think for Hopkins he just sees the 2 guys ahead of him (Brooks and Toppin), and if 1 doesn't leave I think he will. If 1 of the 2 leaves, then I think a decent chance Hopkins stays. If both left I think he would be stupid to leave.

Ware - 10% gone. His offense is limited, and he has to know this. So yeah he could transfer, but it's going to be hard to start anywhere until you can play on both ends of the court.

Brooks - 30% gone. Although I don't know where to. He isn't going to get drafted. He'll be a SR, so degree-wise transferring might be odd. I guess there is overseas. Or maybe he doesn't want to be the scapegoat for a school as a SR, and transfers for that reason. I don't think he's as bad as many on here think, but he's never going to be a star player. He is what he is.

Toppin - 20% gone. Transfer is possible, but less likely than Brooks (3rd school). I think with his athleticism, if he did some workouts and made some shots a team could take him in the 2nd round. Is that good enough for him, IDK. And the Brooks decision probably affects him too.

Fredrick, he just transferred, is back "home", and hasn't played yet. So he will likely fill the Grady role, although maybe won't play that many minutes.
Wallace, I think can step into the Tyty role. Hope he's as good and well-rounded as we've been hearing past few weeks.
Livingston, I think his PT will depend on what Brooks and Toppin and Hopkins do, as well as how much of an outside game he has, allowing him to play some 3. But I could see him next year much like Hopkins this year just due to the numbers/roster.

Wheeler 30% gone. And hell no he's not going to NBA, 0% chance. International, I think would even be hard for him as I picture they value being able to shoot more than the US does. I think he transfers out "IF" Cal/coach X says we are going to bring in the best PG transfer (who can shoot) we can find and you will be given the opportunity to compete with him, so you may be a backup next year. And I think that is how it should go. If not for his shooting I think he would be a very good PG. But damn teams dare him to shoot from even 15'. If Tyty were to return, I think he would be our PG next year. So I see us bringing in a PG that can shoot. And we all know our current coach likes height at the PG.

Allen, 40% gone. When your role is to make 3's, and you can't make them. Not good! We know he can, he did last year. Maybe he thinks a change of scenery is for him, maybe not. But after this year, if he returns, you have to think he will be at the end of the bench until and if he can show he is a good 3pt shooter again.

So.....what will our roster look like? Who knows.
But below in my opinion is a best case scenario:
Oscar, Collins, Toppin, Ware, Hopkins, Livingston
Sharpe, Wallace, Fredrick, top PG transfer, Wheeler, Allen
Where minutes are probably (highest to lowest) Sharpe, Oscar, PG transfer, Collins, Toppin, Fredrick, Wallace, Wheeler, Hopkins, Ware, Livingston, Allen; with mostly an 8 man rotation (possibly 9).
Wrong
 
If we lose Oscar, Sharpe and TyTy, which seems likely at this point, next year is going to be rough. The odds of getting another Oscar in the transfer portal are very low. There’s a reason those kids are still in school.

The Cal era is dying, some people just haven’t been able to see it yet.
 
As long as John Calipari remains head coach, I don't even want to think about the future. I know what it is going to result in. Disappointment. Until Cal is gone, my hope is gone. And so is my interest in UK basketball.
Good. UK basketball will be better off without fans like you.
 
Coach Cal isn't going anywhere BUT I can tell you EXACTLY the 2 things he can easily fix for next season - 2 simple fixes that'll help UK score more AND defend better. If Cal wants to get back to being one of the most dominant programs in the nation, he needs to do this. This podcast episode is less than 15 mins, quick easy listen for you!
 
It will be a piece milled roster that is hopefully good enough to win 25+ games, probably no superstars and another year without a 1 seed. We'll see.
25 games? With our 2-player 24th ranked recruiting class? More like 15 games.
 
25 games? With our 2-player 24th ranked recruiting class? More like 15 games.
I'm counting on a pretty good roster filled with guys from the transfer portal that aren't even on our radar yet to get us to that level, similar to this year. But not a championship contender. IMO
 
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You were wrong. He is 100% returning.
You clearly are not able to understand the concept of predictive probabilities. At the time of the predictions, no one (other than those who had used up their eligibility) was 100% anything.
 
It will be a piece milled roster that is hopefully good enough to win 25+ games, probably no superstars and another year without a 1 seed. We'll see.
Most likely scenario is a regular season probably pretty similar to this, maybe slightly worse depending who he brings in. Obviously none of that will matter though, its a run in March or bust for Cal
 
Not that it matters to anyone but me, I won’t be watching anymore UK MBB games with Cal as coach. But, for those of you that have a morbid fascination with crap CBB, and will watch, expect a minimum of 10-12 loses. Minimum!

I haven't watched for two years; the first half of the season is pretty much AAU ball anyways. You will be surprised how much more time you will have for other R/L things.
 
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Most likely scenario is a regular season probably pretty similar to this, maybe slightly worse depending who he brings in. Obviously none of that will matter though, its a run in March or bust for Cal
Most on here evidently agree with Cal. Everyone on here seems to think March is all that counts or they wouldn't be complaining so much about losing in the first round.
 
Another year of Cal pretending he knows how to coach...

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Most on here evidently agree with Cal. Everyone on here seems to think March is all that counts or they wouldn't be complaining so much about losing in the first round.
Obviously winning regular season games is important, especially for seeding which people value as important.. but at the end of the day its about the tourney
 
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I'm counting on a pretty good roster filled with guys from the transfer portal that aren't even on our radar yet to get us to that level, similar to this year. But not a championship contender. IMO
Yeah...that is about what I see.

- The minute Oscar leaves....there is no dominate team possibility in sight. And then it's scrapping another roster of some good players (even with holes in their games) and some decent players along...and the newness of the team will be met with some lack of covesiveness and excuses all year.

Tired of that show happening every season at best now.
 
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