for the upcoming season. I'm going with Collins most improved and Livingston as biggest surprise. I'll be surprised if Wallace isn't a significant upgrade to TyTy because he takes it to the basket so well. Interested in what everyone else thinks.
Most Improved, biggest surprise
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I'll take some guesses:
Most improved:Jacob Toppin
Biggest surprise:Antonio Reeves
Most disappointing:Chris Livingston
Most improved:Jacob Toppin
Biggest surprise:Antonio Reeves
Most disappointing:Chris Livingston
Funny how certain people shoehorn negativity into every thread. No where in the OP did they ask for most disappointing
Improved: Toppin
Surprising: CJ Frederick (hoping he fills the Grady role with some improvement on the defensive end of the court as well)
Improved: Toppin
Surprising: CJ Frederick (hoping he fills the Grady role with some improvement on the defensive end of the court as well)
Most improved : Coach Cal
Most Surprising : Wheeler
Disappointing: based on expectations, Frederick
Most Surprising : Wheeler
Disappointing: based on expectations, Frederick
Most improved Toppin
Most surprising Ware
Disappointing Cal
Most surprising Ware
Disappointing Cal
Most Improved - Toppin. He's going to be All Sec. "Smooth" got one right.
Most Surprising - Fredrick. At least for people who think of him as nothing but a Cameron Mills shooter. I've watched lots of his games from Iowa -- he defends, he moves without the ball well. When crowded on the perimeter he can get past people and score inside. He'll be an upgrade over Grady. Offensively, he reminds me a little of Doron Lamb, in being an opportunistic scorer. And he does some of the things that Herro did without the basketball.
Least Surprising - The worst of the Rafters whimperers who will pretend amnesia and join in the euphoria when the Cats make the Final Four. That's okay. Remember what the Good Book said about the return of the Prodigal Son: "Your brother was dead, and is alive again. He was lost, and is found"
Most Surprising - Fredrick. At least for people who think of him as nothing but a Cameron Mills shooter. I've watched lots of his games from Iowa -- he defends, he moves without the ball well. When crowded on the perimeter he can get past people and score inside. He'll be an upgrade over Grady. Offensively, he reminds me a little of Doron Lamb, in being an opportunistic scorer. And he does some of the things that Herro did without the basketball.
Least Surprising - The worst of the Rafters whimperers who will pretend amnesia and join in the euphoria when the Cats make the Final Four. That's okay. Remember what the Good Book said about the return of the Prodigal Son: "Your brother was dead, and is alive again. He was lost, and is found"
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Most Improved: 3C he can only get better at this point, right?
Biggest Surprise: 3C will still suck. (Ok, I admit, that wasn't a surprise)
Biggest Surprise: 3C will still suck. (Ok, I admit, that wasn't a surprise)
Sure hope it's Collins who is most improved.
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Most improved: Wheeler, who will increase his 3pt percentage
Biggest surprise: Collins, who will be energy guy off the bench, will average 8 pts a game, and will lead the team in blocked shots.
Most disappointing: half the posters on this board that will never come to grips with the realities of college basketball.
Biggest surprise: Collins, who will be energy guy off the bench, will average 8 pts a game, and will lead the team in blocked shots.
Most disappointing: half the posters on this board that will never come to grips with the realities of college basketball.
I agree with you about Wallace. I think he’ll be a great player for us.
This is the correct answer, and we ain’t doing shit unless it is. That’s just the fact of the matter, whether some want to accept it or not.
Improved: Wheeler, for UK to be on the elite side he needs to shoot better, cut down on turnovers & stay healthy
Surprising:Livingston, if he can continue to develop an outside shot with his overall floor game I think he has a chance to be special.
Disappointing: Fredrick-Injured
Surprising:Livingston, if he can continue to develop an outside shot with his overall floor game I think he has a chance to be special.
Disappointing: Fredrick-Injured
Looks like a lot of posters predicting disappointment in regard to Livingston. I doubt I'll be one of those, as I don't expect him to be an AA at this point. But I think Livingston can be a big plus as a role player as a freshman. I think the key is not putting too much on him. Just let him develop naturally. My guess is he would look best as a 3 year college player, but I suspect he'll never stay that long.
Chris will need time to get adjusted to the college game offensively but because of how hard he plays and his energy there's very little chance folks will be disappointed in his play.
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agree with this with a nod to CJ as runner up most impressive. Think he will have more productive year on both sides than TyTy or Grady
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Agree 100% on CJ. as long as he is healthy amd gets back in form he will be an upgrade at the two or three. You are dead on about his ability to be a creative scorer not jist a shooter. Can ball fake amd step into mid range and score like TyTy but I believe more consistantly
I think Livingston could be a Terrence Jones/Julius Randle hybrid. Not saying he will be as good as either, but that kind of player.
He has bigger plans than that but you're right the kid is a warrior and if doubted it will fire him up even more. ive said he will need some offensice polish at this level but in the meantime he will make up for it
with effort and tenacity. He has all the skills to be a great offensive talent just needs to learn when to attack and when to pull up amd how to play off others etc like everyone else. Hecwas used to trying to get to the rim most of the time at Oak Hill.
But as I said before, he wont disappoint just off effort alone. rhen when he blossoms he 'll be a favorite.
Most improved? Toppin.
I think Toppin is pissed and ready to throw down. We saw what he can do when he brings it. My goodness that kid has a potential to be a grown ass man. And it think we will be saying “Top that!” about Toppin.
Imagine a kick ass Toppin partnered with a similar Oscar. Oh my….
Surprising? I’m going to say Cal. Either he will turn it around and we will all nod like “about damn time” or I say Cal sinks to a new low and we all shake our heads. Either way. This year will surprise us. But hopefully in a good way.
The truly surprising? I’m gonna go with Collins. One way or another we will say “Wow” about him.
I think Toppin is pissed and ready to throw down. We saw what he can do when he brings it. My goodness that kid has a potential to be a grown ass man. And it think we will be saying “Top that!” about Toppin.
Imagine a kick ass Toppin partnered with a similar Oscar. Oh my….
Surprising? I’m going to say Cal. Either he will turn it around and we will all nod like “about damn time” or I say Cal sinks to a new low and we all shake our heads. Either way. This year will surprise us. But hopefully in a good way.
The truly surprising? I’m gonna go with Collins. One way or another we will say “Wow” about him.
Fwiw Steve Smith of Oak Hill is very high on the Livingston. I believe I heard this on Leach Report, one of guests said it.
To me, Collins looks to have a high level of natural talent, and just needs time and experience. And I suspect that knack for the game allows him to improve skills pretty quickly. But he came in so raw and inexperienced that it’s probably going to take him a few years to really start to put it all together – by “all” I mean the scoring, ball-handling, etc. Still think he can be a great asset to UK in the meantime, even to a decent degree on offense. With his athleticism combined with a just little more strength, Collins would be a big asset even as a strictly rim runner & protector – but, again, I think his potential in the long-run is much more than that. He reminds me of Nazr Mohammed in the development aspect; and like Nazr, I think Collins is going to be a long tenured pro.
He was a very good free throw shooter in limited attempts (86%) but that is certainly a good sign for your mid range hopes.
Most improved- Collins. I remember how good Coach O was with player development when he was coaching here in the past and I think Collins has a chance to be really good.
Biggest surprise- Livingston. Kid is strong and tough. Once he adapts to the college game I think he will have some really big games for us this season.
Biggest surprise- Livingston. Kid is strong and tough. Once he adapts to the college game I think he will have some really big games for us this season.
Only to just a couple post for the negatives to highjack what was supposed to be a positive post. I'm not disappointed, I expected it, birds of feathers stick together.
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