I'm not trying to be an ass, I was just curious as I have never seen a UK fan take up for Lonzo or another non UK player as much. I just think he's way overrated based on everything I have seen of him.
Lonzo Ball
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I'm not trying to be an ass, I was just curious as I have never seen a UK fan take up for Lonzo or another non UK player as much. I just think he's way overrated based on everything I have seen of him.
I think he is over rated. Way too many faults in his game. Will be exposed in the man's league he's in now.
they don't care about him. he's a story. and no matter what happens they can keep talking about him. it's the same setup as lebron.
my favorite part is how they will say the player "couldn't live up to the hype" when they underperform. it's funny because this is the hype that they generated. and yet people keep tuning in and seem to forget that espn is who blew these stories up.
I always compare him to Jason Kidd, another west coast player who came into the league with a big reputation. Kidd is a hall of fame player, a great passer and defender , rebounder and leader. Lonzo (who seems like a nice young man) lacks Kidd's quickness and physicality. he is not as good a passer although he is a good passer. Neither Lonzo nor Kidd were great shooters although Lonzo appears to be a better shot than Kidd was as a rookie. The real difference is in quickness. and physical toughness .I believe Ball's lack of quickness is a major problem that was constantly exploited by Fox and was the reason Beverly gave him so much trouble. If PB tried to body up Wall like he did Ball, Wall would be dunking on him all night.
Doesn't seem like you've discussed much basketball if you've not come across UK fans that will passionately defend non-UK players.
In fact, what Gonzo is doing is actually pretty tame. He's even saying he would have preferred Fox, and placed Ball in a group of rookie PGs (below Fultz), saying that anyone of them could be the next best behind Fultz.
Not exactly aggressive defense, just providing a pretty honest assessment that it's silly to blow up a good player after one pro game.
He also destroyed Ball in both matchups yet folks bought into the Ball hype.
He was going back and forth over the course of many posts defending him. I would say most here don't care for the guy and think Fox and a few others are flat out better. I was curious as to why he liked him so much. The dude is over hyped, his dad is insufferable and he is a quitter IMO. When things get rough he packs it in. We disagree about him, it's cool.
I hear ya, we're good. No worries.
I don't mean to come across like I'm taking up for him. I think there are totally reasonable criticisms and questions about his game and Lavar and the hype and all that.
This thread is just terrible and lacking any actual analysis. I'd have done the same if someone said Grayson Allen is the worst college basketball player in America.
I got ya. It's cool man I understand your points. I don't think perspective is bad in any way.
UGA, you wouldn't be one of these "logical" and "objective" "Lakers" fans Now would you?
Hmmm.....common theeeeeeme
LoL this thread is great!
Agree 100% with Gonzo. Lonzo may be a bust, but 1 game and we've got thread
Agree 100% with Gonzo. Lonzo may be a bust, but 1 game and we've got thread
I have been a Lakers fan for nearly 40 years. It’s never been a secret.
I've been one for nearly 30.
I'm also a UK fan.
There is no bias in my statement, if you read/follow my posts, I catch flack for being too objective.
The only thing you can so on this thread without catching flack is "BBNOMGWTFBBQ JOHN CALIPARRRRRRIIIII"
I'll say the same for Fultz, who came off the bench for Philly. I'll say it for Bam and Monk who had bad starts.
It's funny, Cal says trust the process--and you can post all season about buying in and trusting things will be better later on. But when it comes to the NBA, they won't get better later on? Oh, it's just non-UK guys?
Yep.
You know what happens when I discuss Ball-Fox with Lakers fans?
A lot of them accuse me of not being objective because I’m a Kentucky fan.
Hmmm.
And ultimately, what are people saying in this thread that's bias? Gonzo's posts all say the same--let's give him more than 1 game before we declare him a bust. And the collective BBN is saying people are bias?
Options are: Call him a bust after 1 game, be "biased."
As a Lakers fan, I wanted Fox. I think Fox will be an All-Star several times over. I think Magic saw a kid averaging 6 rebounds and 7 assists and saw a young Magic--and he wanted that.
As Beverly showed last night, people will be going after Ball all year. Kid's gonna have to get tough.
Lol. I can't wait until more players go after him. Beverly isn't an all time great but he's still a good player and he's more proven than Lavar or his son.
I can't even believe Lavar was dumb enough to bring up stats. He's just a big blubbering bully who has no real argument so he resorts to personal attacks and yelling "BIG BALLER! BIG BALLER! BIG BALLER!"
If this was the old days I would say a good ass kicking would set him straight, but he's so delusional I don't think it would help.
Can we please learn from our Kardashian mistakes? Lets just ignore the Ball's exist so they'll effing go away. I dont care if they are reality TV drama.... they dont deserve attention. I just hope Lonzo becomes a massive bust, goes to the G league and we never have to hear from them again.
SO far, we’ve got four people telling us to be objective, and use “logic”, when looking at Ball, because ya know, unless you think he’s gonna be a good one you’re just biased.
All four are Laker fans.
Hmmmmm
All four are also UK fans, that wanted Fox. Okay.....
All four are Laker fans defending Ball. Okay......
I’m messin with you dudes, but let’s leave words like “logic” and “objective” out
of it.
All four are Laker fans.
Hmmmmm
All four are also UK fans, that wanted Fox. Okay.....
All four are Laker fans defending Ball. Okay......
I’m messin with you dudes, but let’s leave words like “logic” and “objective” out
of it.
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I think it makes the most sense that Non-Laker, UK fans, are unlikely to seek out this thread to defend Lonzo Ball. It doesn’t mean that there aren’t those in the UK fan base who happen to see the merits of his game.
I mean, surely I have a fair point though?
Just because you clearly saw it coming by my questions doesn't mean it's not a fair point right?
