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Our offense is a problem. We score enough during the regular season most of the the time but our average is blown up by 2-3 games we got hot from 3 and non conference cupcakes. After the SEC and into the Tourney we bog down because Cal stops some things that worked and goes back to post basketball with no movement. He is what he is. Yes defense is a huge concern lately because we rely on that to win big games under Cal, because we have problems scoring.

So he stopped Reeves from making wide open looks? Who knew?
 
Reeves was 1-15.....our best shooter was 1-15 and the only basket was at the end of the game after it was decided. We lost by 6.

The whole "Cal sucks, can't coach offense" stuff is gibberish. Players play the damn games. The coach isn't responsible for every single loss unless you call yourself a goony or some other lame, immature name. lmao.
 
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Reeves was 1-15.....our best shooter was 1-15 and the only basket was at the end of the game after it was decided. We lost by 6.

The whole "Cal sucks, can't coach offense" stuff is gibberish. Players play the damn games. The coach isn't responsible for every single loss unless you call yourself a goony or some other lame, immature name. lmao.
Been here 13 years with more talent than anyone and had 1 team that averaged 80 points per game. His offense with poor spacing, bigs clogging the lane, and seeking to shoot a bunch of midrange jumpers is awful.
 
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Been here 13years with more talent than anyone and had 1 team that averaged 80 points per game. His offense with poor spacing, bigs clogging the lane, and seeking to shoot a bunch of midrange jumpers is awful.

This. One friggin team. Pathetic.

We scored 65 ppg in the tournament this year. But yeah, let's keep blaming the players.
 
NCAA Tournament losses
2023 KSU 69 points
2022 St Peters 79 points in OT
2021 9-16 no tournament
2020 Covid
2019 Auburn 71 points in OT
2018 KSU 58 points
2017 UNC 73 points
2016 IU 67 points
2015 Wisconsin 🤬 64 points
2014 UConn 54 points
2013 Robert Morris NIT 57 points
2012 Kansas 🏆 67 points
2011 UConn 54 points
2010 WVU 66 points

Keep saying it’s not the offense.
 
NCAA Tournament losses
2023 KSU 69 points
2022 St Peters 79 points in OT
2021 9-16 no tournament
2020 Covid
2019 Auburn 71 points in OT
2018 KSU 58 points
2017 UNC 73 points
2016 IU 67 points
2015 Wisconsin 🤬 64 points
2014 UConn 54 points
2013 Robert Morris NIT 57 points
2012 Kansas 🏆 67 points
2011 UConn 54 points
2010 WVU 66 points

Keep saying it’s not the offense.
Absolutely pathetic.

Yes, our defense needs work, but you aren't beating good teams with offensive numbers like that.

Great offense beats great defense more times than not.

Our 2015 team was one of the most elite defensive teams in the history of college ball, but it lost because it only scored 64 freakin' points.

Duke turned around and beat that Wisconsin team 2 nights later, because they had an elite offense. Heck, they beat Wisconsin twice that year, the first time was on Wisconsin's home court.

How anyone can watch a Calipari offense and not immediately see that it's poorly designed for todays game, is crazy to me.
 
Mid range is a valuable part. You need a complete game though. Look at Booker, he’s a 3 point sniper but his mid range game may be his best asset in the league. Same with KD.
Right .. Booker has a great mid game- kinda like Derozan and Cp3 - great players just not the way I’d prefer the team be constructed
 
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The argument over offense and defense cracks me up. People, do you realize if I say the defense is the issue, I'm still pointing the finger at Cal?

Much better to look at KenPom ratings than just a tournament loss.

We could go on all day about how UK seasons ended under Cal and before Cal.

Points scored in season ending losses

'93- 78 in OT
'94- 63
'95- 61
'97- 79
'99- 66
'00- 50
'01-76
'02- 68
'03- 69

When you lose the last game of the year it is usually because of shitty offense or shitty defense. If you score 70-75 points in a CBB game you should win. Reality.
 
Absolutely pathetic.

Yes, our defense needs work, but you aren't beating good teams with offensive numbers like that.

Great offense beats great defense more times than not.

Our 2015 team was one of the most elite defensive teams in the history of college ball, but it lost because it only scored 64 freakin' points.

Duke turned around and beat that Wisconsin team 2 nights later, because they had an elite offense. Heck, they beat Wisconsin twice that year, the first time was on Wisconsin's home court.

How anyone can watch a Calipari offense and not immediately see that it's poorly designed for todays game, is crazy to me.
NBA people have said it and we’ve all seen that offense is Cals weakness as a coach. Recruiting, defense ( I hate that he doesn’t use zone defenses), and motivating players are his strengths.

I don’t understand why people get so mad at you Jeff when you mention Cal’s weaknesses. Every coach has flaws. Even the guys that love Cal shouldn’t get so upset over fair criticisms.
 
This. One friggin team. Pathetic.

We scored 65 ppg in the tournament this year. But yeah, let's keep blaming the players.

While I agree with you....

SDSU only averaged 66PPG in the tournament this year.

Duke only averaged 62.

So not the strongest argument.
 
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While I agree with you....

SDSU only averaged 66PPG in the tournament this year.

Duke only averaged 62.

So not the strongest argument.
It hurt SDSU in the title game that they weren’t better than they were offensively. Got whipped by 17 points in the title game.
 
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Yep and beat out Nate Oates to get there. I’m just saying that it come back to haunt them in the title game. I don’t mean to degrade them. It’s hard to make it to the title game.

It is so great to have some intelligent discussion on this board and there are some excellent posts in this thread, including this one.
 
NBA people have said it and we’ve all seen that offense is Cals weakness as a coach. Recruiting, defense ( I hate that he doesn’t use zone defenses), and motivating players are his strengths.

I don’t understand why people get so mad at you Jeff when you mention Cal’s weaknesses. Every coach has flaws. Even the guys that love Cal shouldn’t get so upset over fair criticisms.
See, Cal is actually a very good defensive minded coach. Switching is the right thing to do when you have the length and athletesism Cal usually has and the numbers bear that out.

UK, under Cal, is usually a top shelf defensive team, but the stale post and Iso offense he runs, is way too easy to defend, especially when your point guards are guys like Hagans, Wheeler and Askew. That’s 100% on Cal. How he thought those guys were UK material, is crazy to me. He made that mistake two years in a row with Hagans and Wheeler. That’s bad.

Now, when Oscar is in the game, we have 4 guys standing there, literally watching Oscar fight off 2 or 3 guys to get open, because everybody knows that's his only play.

That is not how you feed the post. You have to have more action than that. You lock your guards out of the paint and it's too easy to double/triple Oscar.

Known good basketball analysts have continuously cut Cal down over his "archaic offense". So it's not just me.

When you watch KU, Baylor, duke and Villanova run their offenses, you see a lot more action and the defenses they are playing, are spread out. That is extremely tough to defend. Cal's post offense is the easiest offense you can defend, because nobody moves and everyone knows what he's trying to do.
 
While I agree with you....

SDSU only averaged 66PPG in the tournament this year.

Duke only averaged 62.

So not the strongest argument.
Duke got smacked early, so I'm not sure they are a good team to bring up to argue with.

SDSU had an elite offense, the ladt two years, UK was anemic defensively, so in that case, you better have an elite offense. Stale ass post offense isn't going to get the job done.

Not only that, but Cal usually has NBA talent on his roster, SDSU didn’t have that, they did what they do best.
 
See, Cal is actually a very good defensive minded coach. Switching is the right thing to do when you have the length and athletesism Cal usually has and the numbers bear that out.

UK, under Cal, is usually a top shelf defensive team, but the stale post and Iso offense he runs, is way too easy to defend, especially when your point guards are guys like Hagans, Wheeler and Askew. That’s 100% on Cal. How he thought those guys were UK material, is crazy to me. He made that mistake two years in a row with Hagans and Wheeler. That’s bad.

Now, when Oscar is in the game, we have 4 guys standing there, literally watching Oscar fight off 2 or 3 guys to get open, because everybody knows that's his only play.

That is not how you feed the post. You have to have more action than that. You lock your guards out of the paint and it's too easy to double/triple Oscar.

Known good basketball analysts have continuously cut Cal down over his "archaic offense". So it's not just me.

When you watch KU, Baylor, duke and Villanova run their offenses, you see a lot more action and the defenses they are playing, are spread out. That is extremely tough to defend. Cal's post offense is the easiest offense you can defend, because nobody moves and everyone knows what he's trying to do.
I understand what you mean and I wish others did too. To many people are taking those criticisms personal. Any coach in America is criticized for something.
 
It is so great to have some intelligent discussion on this board and there are some excellent posts in this thread, including this one.
I appreciate that. We have some really intelligent fans on here. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read posts and changed my opinions or understood another aspect of a discussion better.
 
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Clogging the lane is very effective. Our gold standard leader can’t make them for them!!!
 
Anyone watching the LA v Denver game? If so, can you explain why Denver is up 18 at halftime right now?
 
Right .. Booker has a great mid game- kinda like Derozan and Cp3 - great players just not the way I’d prefer the team be constructed
But Dorozan doesn’t have anything else outside his athleticism, that’s why he fails to be a man actual superstar. He’s all-star quality but never will lead a team to a championship. He’s mainly a driver that gets hot from mid range.
 
I would personally MUCH rather have the Johnson kid than Livingston.
Same here. Johnson wants to be here and he'll play when, where and how the coaches want him to play.

Meanwhile Livingston, who Cal catered to the entire season, doesn't want to be here and his camp does not like how he was played. I don't get it, Cal played him at the 3 regardlesss of what was best for the team.
 
Same here. Johnson wants to be here and he'll play when, where and how the coaches want him to play.

Meanwhile Livingston, who Cal catered to the entire season, doesn't want to be here and his camp does not like how he was played. I don't get it, Cal played him at the 3 regardlesss of what was best for the team.
Which is amazing to me, how can a guy be that catered too and then be like this when in reality he doesn’t have a great chance of getting drafted and it’s second round at that. Cal needs to start determining fit better than just who’s rated highest.
 
Anyone watching the LA v Denver game? If so, can you explain why Denver is up 18 at halftime right now?
Anyone watch the Celtics Vs 76ers Game 7 a couple days ago? If so, can you explain why Boston won by 24? Both defense and offense are important parts of basketball, and have been issues for us and Cal the past few seasons almost equally. Its silly to almost split hairs and argue about it as much when you can point to countless examples on both side of the fence.
 
Anyone watch the Celtics Vs 76ers Game 7 a couple days ago? If so, can you explain why Boston won by 24? Both defense and offense are important parts of basketball, and have been issues for us and Cal the past few seasons almost equally. Its silly to almost split hairs and argue about it as much when you can point to countless examples on both side of the fence.
Great offense beats great defense every time.
You have to score to win and I don't care how great your defense is, teams are going to score on you, you have to be able to score.
 
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If anyone is worried about Johnson going to Arizona, they added yet another big, Krivas, yesterday. Their front court looks like this now. LOADED. We currently have six scholarship players (🤨) . I'd say Johnson won't be worried about PT at UK.
 
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If anyone is worried about Johnson going to Arizona, they added yet another big, Krivas, yesterday. Their front court looks like this now. LOADED. We currently have six scholarship players (🤨) . I'd say Johnson won't be worried about PT at UK.


They got their starting small forward back too in Larsson, who just pulled out of the draft. They are likely to get Tubelis back too in addition to the guys you have listed above.
 
Our offense is a problem. We score enough during the regular season most of the the time but our average is blown up by 2-3 games we got hot from 3 and non conference cupcakes. After the SEC and into the Tourney we bog down because Cal stops some things that worked and goes back to post basketball with no movement. He is what he is. Yes defense is a huge concern lately because we rely on that to win big games under Cal, because we have problems scoring.
that is true for every team not just UK
our defense was bad against almost every team we played
scoring was not the problem
 
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