Kenny may have coached his last game for UoL.
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Oh don't get me wrong. I'm enjoying it. But from a logical standpoint, their behavior is baffling.
Very reasonable observation. The only reason I have been given is that last year no high level recruits would commit because everyone assumed that UofL would receive harsh sanctions from the IARP process.
That excuse will not work in year 2, because this is his hand picked roster, and the roster he chose to assemble this year is once again short on experience, ball-handling and shooting ability.
Certainly, this season is shot from the standpoint of having any kind of success, but firing Coach Payne while making an appeal to the fans to come support the team may win back a few fans and sell a few more tickets this year.
I think you have to give him the season.....and if it isn't better, can him. That way you can say (like we did with BCG), "Hey, we gave him a couple of seasons to show improvement."
Otherwise you risk turning away good/great coaches seeking a better program, but also time to build stability.
I mean, he does also have a four win season. And it's glaringly obvious they're not going to win double-digits this year. If he is fired this week, I don't think there's a soul on earth that could realistically argue he deserves longer. This isn't the Unforgettables era. The portal allows you to turn it around immediately. KP has done just the opposite.
The portal allows a good recruiter to turn it around immediately when there isn't a green cloud of stink completely enveloping the program. This isn't the same as it would have been for like UK if we canned Cal after the 9 win season. It isn't the same as Indiana replacing a coach after middling around in the B1G for the last 10 years. Not even close.
The rumblings around Louisville suggest they will part with Kenny, appoint Manning as interim, and pursue Jerome Tang from K-State after the season.
What Clyde did at UK is a far cry from what KP is doing there. Clyde had us in the tourney his first year and nearly his second (final three regular season games were all close losses that could've gone either way). Clyde got canned for everything else. KP won four freaking games at Louisville last year. In the portal era. That's pretty rough.
Point being, you can't reasonably can a guy two games into the season. You have to wait until midseason I think, because there is a small chance he gets it rolling.
There's a really wide delta between "turn it around immediately" and four wins. Hell, McMahon won 14 games at LSU last year. Granted they were 2 for the SEC schedule, but 14 wins sure as hell is better than four. That situation was way worse too. They had zero players on the roster when he took the job. Gates had two, I think, when he took the Mizzou job. They were in the tournament. Four wins is really, really bad. I love KP, but that doesn't mean he isn't doing an awful job as a HC.
Yeah, if true, that's pretty odd for sure. I can't imagine anyone would've fought for them not to fire him last year. Winning four games there is just, well, pretty fireable.
Firing a Coach after a 9 win season is something we find reprehensible.
I always heard the straw that broke the camels back was at the SEC tournament and he told a reporter it wasn't his job to be an ambassador or something along those lines. Supposedly Lee Todd lost his mind when he heard that.
I've heard the same thing. I honestly think he'd have gotten a third year were it not for that. Clyde can coach and he's a good enough recruiter. But yeah, that kind of stuff just isn't going to fly at UK. Just an enormously bad fit.
And that value for Louisville is one flaming dog turd. You seriously using the word integrity and UofL in the same sentence?
Me personally, I think he's doing a fine job.
Matt Jones tells that story too, saying he was next to Mitch at that conference and when BCG said that, Mitch, "That's it." and walked out. Tbf, I'd have fired him for that too. When you are the head coach for the University of Kentucky Men's Basketball Team, you ARE an ambassador for not only the program but the Commonwealth.
i question the man's coaching and recruiting. We were blocking FT's for goodness sakes.
BCG was a good recruiter? I didn't see it.
He also didn't like coaching at the University of Jodie Meeks either.
He also didn't like coaching at the University of Jodie Meeks either.
I know we give UofL a ton of crap. And should. But that used to be a respectable program when Crum was there, and when Rick was first there.
We do not want Beard at Louisville. His personal character aside, the dude can coach.A lot of UL fans think Beard would be good for UL.I think Beard is a good coach but don't see him taking the UL job.
I’ve watched them play. Firing KP is not going to amount to one more win. He has players that belong in lower D1 or even D2 schools. Theres’ talent out there but until they cut ties with Adidas, they will continue to suck. That’s what it’s come to. Hell Rick Pitino couldn’t get that team to 10 wins. First thing he’d do is send 3/4th of them packing.
They signed at least 6 4 stars this off season, their talent isn't that bad. It's just a poorly conceived roster and the coaching is non-existent
I could be wrong but I think KP might be to nice to be a head coach. I felt when he was here he was kinda the good cop to Cal’s bad cop. Players could go to him and get their feeling smoothed over. Most head guys just can’t be like that. KP is a great second guy nothing wrong with that!!
This. KP is too nice. He's very soft spoken. And that's kind of what you want in an AC. Momma to your Daddy. When the HC is being the ahole he has to be, the AC steps in, smooths it over, but acknowledges HC is right and gets you to accept that.
Are you counting Sky Clark as a 4 star? That ship has sailed dude. He’s a high 2 at best which means he should have gone to a school like Belmont or Stony Brook. As far as the coaching, he has some more than capable assistants on that bench. It’s difficult anymore getting guys to work. They give up too easy and just transfer out. The TP is something that needs some rules added to it. I’m not a Louisville fan but I know the guy can coach. His players just have to work harder and get better. That Chattanooga team is an NCAA tourney team come March.
They had the 6th rated recruiting class in the country. Higher than Kansas.
If fired in his first year is what I saw after that it’s 10 million hope he gets as much as he can.
First year 10 million then the article said it drops 2 mil per year after that first year.
Louisville is back to WKU status soon. The football program might make top 10 this week but then go to Miami Saturday. They are done and the basketball team is done and the season is starting this week.
My gosh……if so, there is a stench of panic rising in the air of Jefferson Co.
2 games into the season?? Even by uvel standards….that’s a new low.
People kill me when they say this. Good coaches are a dime a dozen. Players win games, not coaches
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