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Kaepernick blows chance for NFL comeback

You can’t paint people with the same broad brush...not based on ethnicity or anything else...there are good and bad people in all sects. Bad cops, bad whites, bad blacks...
Kap better served vocalizing his message in a more constructive manner
 
Meanwhile, I’m drinking beer and smoking cigars in the basement of my $400k house...I love and hate people from all walks of life..:just like everybody else, I suppose. I’ll just take care of my ish and do the best I can in my small part of the world. I’m probably out of touch but I want the hate to stop
 
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Muhammad Ali took a stand that pissed a lot of people off, but he didn’t do it in a way that interfered with the sport. We talk about Ali decades later...nobody will remember this guy five years (or less) from now. You have something to say, say it...not some empty gesture that is done in a way that isn’t tied to the cause. Our society faces many problems, and I appreciate the voices who try to combat the issues. Police brutality is bad...no one denies that, but it’s not gonna get fixed by taking a knee at a football game. Get on the road with your message...lead rallies...leverage the media...meanwhile, play your game at the highest level to command attention
We also still talk about Ali because the guy was the best ever in the sport.
 
Support of terrorists by kneeling for the anthem is definitely a slight to the military.

Please explain or provide a link to what you're trying to hint at.

They are alienating their customer base that pays bloated ticket prices.



of course, data be damned

What data are you talking about? Ratings being down nearly 10 percent but still higher than most other sports and TV programming general?

Attendance drops? It's down in every sport in this country.

The protests are a factor, but it's not as big as some would make it out to be.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree as you and I always do. You might care about the kneeling (or you might not). I don't care about the protests and will continue to watch as I have done most of my life. You're free to do the same or don't watch at all. I just find the uproar silly. That's all.
 
Personally, I have no problem with any player protesting. Doesn’t change my view of the player, and I back his right to protest. I do understand how it ruffles feathers of the flag-waivers and puts him, his team, and the league in a bad light.

First and foremost, why do sporting events begin with the anthem? Drunken NFL fans are there to see helmet-to-helmet collisions and players knocked unconscious or carried off injured. Never understood the need to play the anthem beforehand.

Secondly, why doesn’t Kaepernick
stay in the locker room until after and then come out? He could save himself some heartache, and earn a living.

Thirdly, I wish the media would just drop it. I really don’t think it does anyone any good to show video of who’s standing, who’s kneeling, who’s singing along. Who cares? Just get on with the game!
He chose to do this publicly. He chose the anthem to do it. Teams are choosing they don;t want him or his drama. I am glad the profession he chose doesn't want him. Life is full of choices and consequences.
He made a choice and teams are making their choice. I don't feel sorry for him or care that he can't play anymore.
 
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Kaepernick is a disgrace. Why hasn't he moved to another Country and tried to get a job making millions a year? Let's see him move to China, Russia, North Korea, Mexico, and countless other Countries and kneel for their anthems. I don't think that would work out too well for him.
 
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Please explain or provide a link to what you're trying to hint at.



What data are you talking about? Ratings being down nearly 10 percent but still higher than most other sports and TV programming general?

Attendance drops? It's down in every sport in this country.

The protests are a factor, but it's not as big as some would make it out to be.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree as you and I always do. You might care about the kneeling (or you might not). I don't care about the protests and will continue to watch as I have done most of my life. You're free to do the same or don't watch at all. I just find the uproar silly. That's all.
More than just the ratings drop (CFB ratings were outstanding, btw) which is a big deal, you also had stock ratings of CBS and others effected, noting the protest. FFS, there is a reason the whole league leadership is still trying to get ahead of it. AGAIN, the team in most liberal city in the league cancelled a tryout. The NFL gave the players a $100m bribe for programs. Some serious head in sand going on here by you.

What bothers me is the larger issue of ignorance/feelings trumping facts/behavior for celebrities with no accountability. Michael Bennett is one of the main guys in this and is one of biggest lying scumbags in sports. They have not improved one thing about the issue they are protesting and have created nothing but more division. Let's not forget, when this broke out and CK became aligned with BLM we were in the middle of a spike of police executions.
 
Kaepernick is a disgrace. Why hasn't he moved to another Country and tried to get a job making millions a year? Let's see him move to China, Russia, North Korea, Mexico, and countless other Countries and kneel for their anthems. I don't think that would work out too well for him.
Hey, data shows communism and socialism on a huge uptick in approval among millennials. The guy that loves Che leading this just needs to wait it out. Capitalism of people not buying the product as much is not cool, as you see in the "bigot" comments.
 
First and foremost, why do sporting events begin with the anthem? Drunken NFL fans are there to see helmet-to-helmet collisions and players knocked unconscious or carried off injured. Never understood the need to play the anthem beforehand
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.hist...-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events

Long story short, they started it 100 years ago during WW1 at the World Series, when everyone in attendance, including players, had friends and family off fighting and dying in the war. Plus they had just started drafting pro athletes, and at least one player on the field had been drafted and was given a furlough to play in the World Series.

I’m sure they just keep it up these days because “how much do you love your country?” is the preferred dick measuring contest for most of the demographic that attends sporting events.
 
So African Americans and other minorities that are treated unfairly by the police are now terrorists? Interesting theory...
No. African Americans and minorities aren't treated unfairly by the police. Their movement called for the death of police and murdered innocent police officers. Yes that makes them terrorists.
 
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Please explain or provide a link to what you're trying to hint at.



What data are you talking about? Ratings being down nearly 10 percent but still higher than most other sports and TV programming general?

Attendance drops? It's down in every sport in this country.

The protests are a factor, but it's not as big as some would make it out to be.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree as you and I always do. You might care about the kneeling (or you might not). I don't care about the protests and will continue to watch as I have done most of my life. You're free to do the same or don't watch at all. I just find the uproar silly. That's all.
The Black Lives Matter movement used the lie that blacks are systematically oppressed in America for their own profit. Then they called for the murder of innocent cops. Then they murdered innocent cops. By any reasonable definition they are domestic terrorists. Kneeling to support them and their lies is support of terrorism.
 
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Wanna fix the kneeling issue? Stop playing the anthem after the teams take the field. Play it while they’re still in the locker room like they do in college.
 
Why not protest in DC? Why not protest at the court house? Or a police station? You know, places that can enact whatever change he's after? But he didnt, and he specifically chose during the national anthem because he knew itd cause people to get angry.

So you readily admit that he was well aware it would piss people off, correct? But you just said "who cares?".

You answered your own question.

I have always wondered why they don't do their protest during a TD or sack celebration instead of doing the ridiculous dances and other things they do?
 
If Kaep agreed to stop kneeling now as a response to receiving a paycheck from an NFL team, it would undo everything he has gone through up to this point. Removing the context of what he is protesting, I think we all could agree that you have to be a person of strong convictions to essentially risk everything you have worked for during your life for a cause that you believe in. Kaepernick dedicated his life to football and put in the hours just like everyone else in the league. The practices, sacrifices, injuries, college years, all the way up to leading the 49ers to the Super Bowl. And by not signing with a team who will only take him if he ends his protest, he is showing how important this is to him.

Somewhere along the lines, the reason for his protest was misinterpreted. And no matter how many times he, or any other player who has chosen to kneel says it is not in any disrespect to the military, our country, or the flag itself, some people just don't want to hear that. Personally, I think he could have figured out a better way to interpret his feelings behind this protest, but perhaps his decision to kneel which has been so controversial was the best way to get a conversation started.

I don't like the image of someone kneeling during the National Anthem, but I understand why Kaepernick is doing it. And Kaep choosing to continue his fight at the expense of an NFL contract is something I respect. Just my opinion.
 
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imo keep is doing this just to further divide the country. And if you don't agree with them well then you pay. Like David Carr did. He stood for the anthem and his offensive line (all black) did not appreciate that so they let defenders at him ending up in a broken back.

If you were to go out in the NFL and protest say Hillary Clinton not being in prison or protest abortions, you would not be allowed to. That is another big problem. All this is selective outrage , expressing your opinion, BUT ONLY if it is in lockstep with the liberal identity politics grievances.
 
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Like most protests, it backfired and now he has done more damage than good to the cause he was trying promote. Your average NFL fan isn't a sophisticated intellectual who is going to reflect on the injustices of the world. Your average NFL fan is someone who drinks stroh's and finances their season tickets at 26.5% interest and one of the only words they can spell correctly is 'Murica.


Wrong.
 
Like the previous dozen thread about this dumbass, no one can make an argument that employees have the right to protest on the job. They would rather try to tell customers (many military and police members) they are idiots for being bothered. Seattle is probably the most liberal major city in the country and they are backing off, but the catpaw liberals will fight it until the end.


They’re still super salty Hillary got embarrassed nationally by losing , and they’re even more salty people are starting to realize the MSM/ and unhinged left are nothing but biased and pandering idiots.

“Gender doesn’t exist! “
 
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Am i the only one who believes this all started with him just acting like a brat because he got benched? All the rest was just a cover that turned into all this.

So many ways to be much more effective fighting for a cause than this especially someone with a platform, money, and influence.

Him not doing this as a starter speaks volumes. Keep pouting, Colin. The reality is hes just a bad QB. Gotta blame it on something I guess.
 
Am i the only one who believes this all started with him just acting like a brat because he got benched? All the rest was just a cover that turned into all this.

So many ways to be much more effective fighting for a cause than this especially someone with a platform, money, and influence.

Him not doing this as a starter speaks volumes. Keep pouting, Colin. The reality is hes just a bad QB. Gotta blame it on something I guess.


Exactly. Similar to the openly gay player a few years ago. Absolutely nothing wrong with being homosexual / whatever ... but it was obviously a huge media blitz/ grab for attention and the media etc acting like he was cut from teams because he was gay when all actuality it was because he was absolutely not good enough to play in the NFL.
Cap had his 15 minutes of fame and defenses figured him out.

Go on somewhere Cap, you’re becoming a joke
 
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Personally, I have no problem with any player protesting. Doesn’t change my view of the player, and I back his right to protest. I do understand how it ruffles feathers of the flag-waivers and puts him, his team, and the league in a bad light.

First and foremost, why do sporting events begin with the anthem? Drunken NFL fans are there to see helmet-to-helmet collisions and players knocked unconscious or carried off injured. Never understood the need to play the anthem beforehand.

Secondly, why doesn’t Kaepernick
stay in the locker room until after and then come out? He could save himself some heartache, and earn a living.

Thirdly, I wish the media would just drop it. I really don’t think it does anyone any good to show video of who’s standing, who’s kneeling, who’s singing along. Who cares? Just get on with the game!
You have to remember he has no right to protest at his place of employment, just have as you have no right to conduct protests at your place of employment. He has the right to protest on his own time, as do you. Although, that can risky too, if it sheds bad light on your employer. When he is in the workplace, he has to conform to the behavioral standards that his franchise places on him. If he is unwilling to do that, he is not fit to be employed. This is a good lesson, in my opinion, for people who think their behavior has no impact on their employment.
 
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Let me set the record straight, as long as no one is breaking laws with how they dress, I don't care what anyone wears except me.
I don’t think any laws are being broke by owners not wanting to employ a below average QB who is has won 3 or 4 games in his last 20 starts. Oh and by the way that same below average QB also wears Fidel Castro on his t shirt and pisses off half the fan base which may cost money
 
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