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We also still talk about Ali because the guy was the best ever in the sport.Muhammad Ali took a stand that pissed a lot of people off, but he didn’t do it in a way that interfered with the sport. We talk about Ali decades later...nobody will remember this guy five years (or less) from now. You have something to say, say it...not some empty gesture that is done in a way that isn’t tied to the cause. Our society faces many problems, and I appreciate the voices who try to combat the issues. Police brutality is bad...no one denies that, but it’s not gonna get fixed by taking a knee at a football game. Get on the road with your message...lead rallies...leverage the media...meanwhile, play your game at the highest level to command attention
So African Americans and other minorities that are treated unfairly by the police are now terrorists? Interesting theory...He’s kneeling in support of terrorists. The fact that you think that is right is disgusting.
lolBlack people in America aren’t oppressed
Support of terrorists by kneeling for the anthem is definitely a slight to the military.
They are alienating their customer base that pays bloated ticket prices.
of course, data be damned
He chose to do this publicly. He chose the anthem to do it. Teams are choosing they don;t want him or his drama. I am glad the profession he chose doesn't want him. Life is full of choices and consequences.Personally, I have no problem with any player protesting. Doesn’t change my view of the player, and I back his right to protest. I do understand how it ruffles feathers of the flag-waivers and puts him, his team, and the league in a bad light.
First and foremost, why do sporting events begin with the anthem? Drunken NFL fans are there to see helmet-to-helmet collisions and players knocked unconscious or carried off injured. Never understood the need to play the anthem beforehand.
Secondly, why doesn’t Kaepernick
stay in the locker room until after and then come out? He could save himself some heartache, and earn a living.
Thirdly, I wish the media would just drop it. I really don’t think it does anyone any good to show video of who’s standing, who’s kneeling, who’s singing along. Who cares? Just get on with the game!
Glad that he can't get a job and hope they continue to reject him. Love it.Glad to see he will continue to stand up for what is right instead of cow tailing to the shut up and play biggots.
So, only minorities are treated unfairly by police...interesting.So African Americans and other minorities that are treated unfairly by the police are now terrorists? Interesting theory...
You should have stopped at....Kaepernick blowsSeahawks were ready to sign him if he would forgo his pre-game protests. He refused then they cancelled the meeting and signed another QB. What a dumbass. Why can't he continue his political crusade on his own time rather than the team's? No team wants his drama or the damage it will do to a fan base.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...up-QB-passing-Kaepernick-anthem-protests.html
More than just the ratings drop (CFB ratings were outstanding, btw) which is a big deal, you also had stock ratings of CBS and others effected, noting the protest. FFS, there is a reason the whole league leadership is still trying to get ahead of it. AGAIN, the team in most liberal city in the league cancelled a tryout. The NFL gave the players a $100m bribe for programs. Some serious head in sand going on here by you.Please explain or provide a link to what you're trying to hint at.
What data are you talking about? Ratings being down nearly 10 percent but still higher than most other sports and TV programming general?
Attendance drops? It's down in every sport in this country.
The protests are a factor, but it's not as big as some would make it out to be.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree as you and I always do. You might care about the kneeling (or you might not). I don't care about the protests and will continue to watch as I have done most of my life. You're free to do the same or don't watch at all. I just find the uproar silly. That's all.
Hey, data shows communism and socialism on a huge uptick in approval among millennials. The guy that loves Che leading this just needs to wait it out. Capitalism of people not buying the product as much is not cool, as you see in the "bigot" comments.Kaepernick is a disgrace. Why hasn't he moved to another Country and tried to get a job making millions a year? Let's see him move to China, Russia, North Korea, Mexico, and countless other Countries and kneel for their anthems. I don't think that would work out too well for him.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.hist...-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-eventsFirst and foremost, why do sporting events begin with the anthem? Drunken NFL fans are there to see helmet-to-helmet collisions and players knocked unconscious or carried off injured. Never understood the need to play the anthem beforehand
No. African Americans and minorities aren't treated unfairly by the police. Their movement called for the death of police and murdered innocent police officers. Yes that makes them terrorists.So African Americans and other minorities that are treated unfairly by the police are now terrorists? Interesting theory...
The Black Lives Matter movement used the lie that blacks are systematically oppressed in America for their own profit. Then they called for the murder of innocent cops. Then they murdered innocent cops. By any reasonable definition they are domestic terrorists. Kneeling to support them and their lies is support of terrorism.Please explain or provide a link to what you're trying to hint at.
What data are you talking about? Ratings being down nearly 10 percent but still higher than most other sports and TV programming general?
Attendance drops? It's down in every sport in this country.
The protests are a factor, but it's not as big as some would make it out to be.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree as you and I always do. You might care about the kneeling (or you might not). I don't care about the protests and will continue to watch as I have done most of my life. You're free to do the same or don't watch at all. I just find the uproar silly. That's all.
Laugh all you want but blacks aren't systematically oppressed in America. I challenge you to prove me wrong. If you can prove me wrong, I will take back what I said and join the protest.
Why not protest in DC? Why not protest at the court house? Or a police station? You know, places that can enact whatever change he's after? But he didnt, and he specifically chose during the national anthem because he knew itd cause people to get angry.
So you readily admit that he was well aware it would piss people off, correct? But you just said "who cares?".
You answered your own question.
How do you feel about him wearing a Castro shirt?We also still talk about Ali because the guy was the best ever in the sport.
Like most protests, it backfired and now he has done more damage than good to the cause he was trying promote. Your average NFL fan isn't a sophisticated intellectual who is going to reflect on the injustices of the world. Your average NFL fan is someone who drinks stroh's and finances their season tickets at 26.5% interest and one of the only words they can spell correctly is 'Murica.
Like the previous dozen thread about this dumbass, no one can make an argument that employees have the right to protest on the job. They would rather try to tell customers (many military and police members) they are idiots for being bothered. Seattle is probably the most liberal major city in the country and they are backing off, but the catpaw liberals will fight it until the end.
Am i the only one who believes this all started with him just acting like a brat because he got benched? All the rest was just a cover that turned into all this.
So many ways to be much more effective fighting for a cause than this especially someone with a platform, money, and influence.
Him not doing this as a starter speaks volumes. Keep pouting, Colin. The reality is hes just a bad QB. Gotta blame it on something I guess.
You have to remember he has no right to protest at his place of employment, just have as you have no right to conduct protests at your place of employment. He has the right to protest on his own time, as do you. Although, that can risky too, if it sheds bad light on your employer. When he is in the workplace, he has to conform to the behavioral standards that his franchise places on him. If he is unwilling to do that, he is not fit to be employed. This is a good lesson, in my opinion, for people who think their behavior has no impact on their employment.Personally, I have no problem with any player protesting. Doesn’t change my view of the player, and I back his right to protest. I do understand how it ruffles feathers of the flag-waivers and puts him, his team, and the league in a bad light.
First and foremost, why do sporting events begin with the anthem? Drunken NFL fans are there to see helmet-to-helmet collisions and players knocked unconscious or carried off injured. Never understood the need to play the anthem beforehand.
Secondly, why doesn’t Kaepernick
stay in the locker room until after and then come out? He could save himself some heartache, and earn a living.
Thirdly, I wish the media would just drop it. I really don’t think it does anyone any good to show video of who’s standing, who’s kneeling, who’s singing along. Who cares? Just get on with the game!
I don't have any feelings at all about it.How do you feel about him wearing a Castro shirt?
You seem to have feelings about everything else involved with him so why not him wearing the face of a murdering dictator on his t shirt like it’s a badge of honor?I don't have any feelings at all about it.
I have always wondered why they don't do their protest during a TD or sack celebration instead of doing the ridiculous dances and other things they do?
Let me set the record straight, as long as no one is breaking laws with how they dress, I don't care what anyone wears except me.-what if he were wearing a stalin, hitler, pol pot, amin or mao shirt?
I don’t think any laws are being broke by owners not wanting to employ a below average QB who is has won 3 or 4 games in his last 20 starts. Oh and by the way that same below average QB also wears Fidel Castro on his t shirt and pisses off half the fan base which may cost moneyLet me set the record straight, as long as no one is breaking laws with how they dress, I don't care what anyone wears except me.