It's rare for us, because we are essentially building a team from scratch most seasons.
But veteran team might be, say 80-85% of a finished product in November. We are more like 40%.
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It's rare for us, because we are essentially building a team from scratch most seasons.
But veteran team might be, say 80-85% of a finished product in November. We are more like 40%.
I agree with that Aike. I still think a win Tuesday night will end up being a big positive on Selection Sunday.
uk's guards aren't all that athletic, but they're all good making plays off the dribble which duke's ball pressure typically requires
poythress is going to need to be able to take a dribble or two and finish without kicking it into the cheerleaders and lee/skal are going to need to finish through contact and not look at the refs like chumps
who knows what shape the game actually takes though. i just know i hate duke and everything their cynical operation stands for
poythress is going to need to be able to take a dribble or two and finish without kicking it into the cheerleaders and lee/skal are going to need to finish through contact and not look at the refs like chumps
who knows what shape the game actually takes though. i just know i hate duke and everything their cynical operation stands for
You are right. A win will be a big positive. I agree with Joneslab's post from above. A loss in November doesn't hurt much, but a win can help.
Mulder and Matthews are very athletic. And I wouldn't characterize the starters as unathletic either. Not as much as the subs, but probably above average.
The play where Murray timed a 3 point miss and dunked the putback is not typically made by an unathletic player.
That's been mentioned multiple times in this thread but people can't seem to understand it.
Duke has won 7 of the last 8 so this game is a must. I don't agree with all the this means nothing crowd.
I know it's the 2nd night of a back to back...but...
I thought Murray took way too many 3's. Take it in.
We gave up too many lay-ups. Allen is going to come inside a lot. Our bigs have gotta get there. Our guards have gotta work to keep him out.
I thought Murray took way too many 3's. Take it in.
We gave up too many lay-ups. Allen is going to come inside a lot. Our bigs have gotta get there. Our guards have gotta work to keep him out.
Wouldn't say it means nothing, but that 7 out of 8 stat is just a stat.
In the past 4 decades, UK and Duke have met in 4 big games and split them. And I doubt many fans can name more than 3 without looking.
Other than that, we've played Duke very sporadically, and they've caught us in some of our worst years.
I think Murray is very athletic.
More than that though he has a knack for being where the ball is. Briscoe too. I'll take that over pure athleticism. Some guys who are super athletic are like newborn colts. What I've noticed with Murray is that he has
More than that though he has a knack for being where the ball is. Briscoe too. I'll take that over pure athleticism. Some guys who are super athletic are like newborn colts. What I've noticed with Murray is that he has
True enough. But they were the beneficiary of us stubbing our toe, not our victimizer.
The only UK/Duke game in my memory that ever really bothered me was, well, you know.
What bothers me is that we cannot play them without some incident where they try to look like they are being victimized. It is always something. Some gimmick will come up. Every time.
The timing and knowing where to be was more impressive than the dunk itself. I wouldn't call any of our main three great athletes, but they're good enough, especially for college.
None of those three are freak athletes, but calling them unathletic is false.
Actually I am very glad Murray shot too much and missed 90%.
He is a gunner and gonna let it fly, Cal has said repeatedly he needs to learn what a good shot is.
Thus my hope is that he did it against this team, saw the results, and learned his lesson, instead of doing it vs Duke...
Wishful thinking maybe....?
I didn't think they were atrociously bad looks. Mostly shot in rhythm, and was just off.
It isn't like he's hogging the ball or anything. He is a baller.
He was taking some pretty deep threes early in the shot clock. He's not that kinda shooter. It's unlikely you're gonna take 9 threes in a game without forcing some bad shots up, unless you're Stephen Curry.
We were 15pts better last yr early than we were in march, we never did regain what poythrees gave us.
I guess my concern is that these kids will be uptight, freshmen playing in a NBA arena on primetime ESPN with the whole country watching could cause trying to do to much and dig a hole early. Coach K and Duke have had great success against us and while I hate to lose to anyone, losing to Duke just is not my idea of a good time, but I will be making the trip to Chicago hope to come home happy.
Gotta make plays, get key stops and score in the last 7 minutes. Duke done those things in 2010 and 2015, we didn't. Coach K isn't the greatest for nothing.
I dont disagree, I just want him conscious of taking good shots. Every possession of the Duke game is important.
Here's how I see this going.
-ugly basketball early
-couple bad turnovers
-duke takes an early 6 point lead
-uk picks up a couple dumb fouls
-Calipari finds a couple of mismatches and UK surges ahead
-K makes adjustments and pulls Duke even
-chess match the rest of the game
-last team to possess the ball wins
Cal is really good at finding the mismatches. It's going to start with Tyler but I think he gets Poythress to muscle Pookie (Jefferson) in the paint. I think Duke's style of play is something Poythress is comfortable playing against. They spread the court and that gives everyone room to operate.
Also, I just don't think Grayson Allen is good enough to actually carry Duke to a win against UK. That kid is a phenomenal player though, I love his athleticism and his aggressiveness but I think Cal finds someone to lock him down. Briscoe is the guy for the job IMO. Take Grayson out and UK wins.
My question is, who does Duke focus on to stop when UK is on Offense? I think UK is strong at more positions than Duke but Duke does have some advantages.
-ugly basketball early
-couple bad turnovers
-duke takes an early 6 point lead
-uk picks up a couple dumb fouls
-Calipari finds a couple of mismatches and UK surges ahead
-K makes adjustments and pulls Duke even
-chess match the rest of the game
-last team to possess the ball wins
Cal is really good at finding the mismatches. It's going to start with Tyler but I think he gets Poythress to muscle Pookie (Jefferson) in the paint. I think Duke's style of play is something Poythress is comfortable playing against. They spread the court and that gives everyone room to operate.
Also, I just don't think Grayson Allen is good enough to actually carry Duke to a win against UK. That kid is a phenomenal player though, I love his athleticism and his aggressiveness but I think Cal finds someone to lock him down. Briscoe is the guy for the job IMO. Take Grayson out and UK wins.
My question is, who does Duke focus on to stop when UK is on Offense? I think UK is strong at more positions than Duke but Duke does have some advantages.
Funy stuff. If the game were in Rupp, it would come to pass as you have foreseen.
If Murray isn't athletic I doubt that being athletic is a good thing.
I agree with this except I think the winning team will be fouled the last minute or so and have to make FTs.
Cal is among the best at getting his teams to peak at the right time, meaning of course tournament time. Last year was the obvious exception. They hit a little bit of a wall, and I thought - just wait, wait for the NCAAT to start, and they are going to hit a whole other level. Just didn't happen.I wonder in hindsight if part of the problem was the Bahamas trip, the season started for that group, in some ways, in August. It's hard to stretch a season from August to April and perform at a high level the whole time. That August trip allowed them to be at peak form in December, allowed them to, for example, just trash KU. I'd rather have beat them by 5 and hit a peak later. If I'm right about any of that, I'd rather, of course, have lost to KU and then peaked in March......
Either way, you're right about this group - which will have a more typical trajectory. Might have some stumbles early, but I think by year's end they'll be formidable....
My question is: If Allen is so good, and Coach K is the best there is, how come Allen didn't get minutes sooner? It's not like Coach K held him as a secret weapon, knowing he was going to drop 10+ in that Wisconsin game.
I think that's what makes me question Allen's recent performance. Shouldn't K have known he was this good, if that was the truth? Whyw as he not getting minutes earlier in the season, on a pretty shallow team no less?
I think this is more of Wisconsin having no scouting info on him/not game planning, plus really bad OOC competition the last two games.. than him being this 25+pt/night scorer.
I think that's what makes me question Allen's recent performance. Shouldn't K have known he was this good, if that was the truth? Whyw as he not getting minutes earlier in the season, on a pretty shallow team no less?
I think this is more of Wisconsin having no scouting info on him/not game planning, plus really bad OOC competition the last two games.. than him being this 25+pt/night scorer.
Totally different season, and not the reason (lack of PT on a National Champion team) I would use to discount a sophomore.
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