Impact of Satterfield on UK Football:

[teetim]

He's being given too much credit. U6's program is a complete dumpster fire right now. It will take him 3-4 years minimum to get it turned around, maybe longer. He's new to the scene in KY, Stoops and Marrow already have a leg up on him here. He's not doing shit in Ohio, that's Stoops and Marrow's stomping grounds.

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

 

[WildcatofNati]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that, but Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

I would ask that you explain what you are talking about. If you have information, please share. Otherwise, why refer to it, if you are not going to share it?

 

[GreyBeardedMan]

I will take a wait and see approach to the new U6 coach and his effect on UK. I like my chances with Stoops and Marrow. At best, I think it takes U6 three years to get it turned around. As a human being, I am glad they are cleaning out the crooks, but I am looking forward to some more curb stompings like I witnessed live, in my blue best, at their place this season.

 

[catfootballfan]

I still cant believe UNC didnt go after him instead of hiring Mack Brown??

 

[mrschwump]

I still cant believe UNC didnt go after him instead of hiring Mack Brown??

Should tell you all you need to know.

 

[AllCatsEverything5]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

Wandale caused whatever happened to himself.

 

[ghorn19]

Any successful coach at UofL "hurts" UK by getting more prospects from Jefferson Co.
Been that way for a long time. But we've seen UK can pull it's share as long as the program is doing well. We shouldn't be worried about it one bit, and just be thankful they were a TRAIN wreck this year when there were so many P5 guys available.

 

[mrschwump]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

Yeah, no question it's Stoops/Marrow's fault the kid's a pathological liar.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Write this down: They will be better THIS coming season. They were in total turmoil this season. His approach and past performance indicates he'll get them playing for each other = major improvement in effort = improved play.

Ok, but how much? This yr wasn’t all bad coaching.

-There are significant talent voids in various areas across the roster......and this current recruiting class will likely be dreadful. You don’t have something to lean on right now. For instance, Cunningham looks like he could be good in the future, but you can’t protect him next yr....nor is he good enough to carry the offense without a line or WRs. There isn’t a stud RB to lean on. The defense is in crazy disarray.

-There will be an entirely new staff.....with new schemes, terminology, etc. You can usually count on 1-3 yrs for things to be a little shaky before things start to be second nature bb

-There still is a stink around UL due to the Adidas scandal, etc. And while it’s not football, you can bet there’s at least a handful of recruits out there who have a slight negative bias to UL right now because of it. And you can bet some opposing coaches will bring it up.

-Satterfield is from the Carolinas.....and has never coached/played outside of App St or Toledo. He doesn’t have massive ties to the Louisville area. He hasn’t recruited guys that are the caliber of guys he needs to get at UL. He hasn’t coached in the Power 5.....nor the G5....which means his staff will likely be guys who haven’t either save for some exceptions.

-UL fans have shown that they won’t come to games if the wins aren’t there.



So, let’s assume that they can win 4-5 games next yr......sounds great....it’s double the wins this past yr. But with the uphill battle that’s coming, can Satterfield win before the window closes?.....sure he can....he’s a really good coach.....but he’s in a very bad situation. I wouldn’t have taken the UL job right now if I were him. Let someone else be “the rebound guy” to pull them out of a hole....then take over.

 

[84Alumni]

Ok, but how much? This yr wasn’t all bad coaching.

-There are significant talent voids in various areas across the roster......and this current recruiting class will likely be dreadful. You don’t have something to lean on right now. For instance, Cunningham looks like he could be good in the future, but you can’t protect him next yr....nor is he good enough to carry the offense without a line or WRs. There isn’t a stud RB to lean on. The defense is in crazy disarray.

-There will be an entirely new staff.....with new schemes, terminology, etc. You can usually count on 1-3 yrs for things to be a little shaky before things start to be second nature bb

-There still is a stink around UL due to the Adidas scandal, etc. And while it’s not football, you can bet there’s at least a handful of recruits out there who have a slight negative bias to UL right now because of it. And you can bet some opposing coaches will bring it up.

-Satterfield is from the Carolinas.....and has never coached/played outside of App St or Toledo. He doesn’t have massive ties to the Louisville area. He hasn’t recruited guys that are the caliber of guys he needs to get at UL. He hasn’t coached in the Power 5.....nor the G5....which means his staff will likely be guys who haven’t either save for some exceptions.

-UL fans have shown that they won’t come to games if the wins aren’t there.



So, let’s assume that they can win 4-5 games next yr......sounds great....it’s double the wins this past yr. But with the uphill battle that’s coming, can Satterfield win before the window closes?.....sure he can....he’s a really good coach.....but he’s in a very bad situation. I wouldn’t have taken the UL job right now if I were him. Let someone else be “the rebound guy” to pull them out of a hole....then take over.

I have this funny feeling he has a different approach than yours would be. He surely "believes" in his abilities, the ul facilities, and the possibilities. He probably noted that they won before, and he thinks they can win again. Coaching can and does make a huge difference in the product on the field.

 

[84Alumni]

Now you are mocking Neal Brown- not cool. I responded to your first post in good faith, and I do respect your new coach, but it's obvious that you are a U6 troll. So here's the news, guy.

56-10.

I think I am uncovering the "Deep State" of UK Football. That is the mindset where anything and everything stamped UK is golden, and beyond reproach = pseudo-reality. I bring up NB to ferret out those that are proponents of him coming back to UK someday. That would be a tremendous mistake, similar to Joker's Operation Win scenario. Great that he was a player under Mumme - no problem. Thank you for your commitment. However, not the right guy for any coaching position at UK IF you want to win in the SEC. Look at wins and who they have been against, and you will find they are predominantly losing teams, all the way back to TTech days. AD's realize this, as he is still not a hot candidate for any job that I've seen. We just need our AD to know this, and that is the scary part. He's made many poor hires during his tenure.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I have this funny feeling he has a different approach than yours would be. He surely "believes" in his abilities, the ul facilities, and the possibilities. He probably noted that they won before, and he thinks they can win again. Coaching can and does make a huge difference in the product on the field.

Again let me reiterate. I think he’s a really good coach.....and I think he can and will/would succeed at UL. The issue is can he survive long enough to get things going?

 

[Mojocat]

My guess is he’ll prove to be a decent coach and mediocre recruiter.

 

[84Alumni]

Again let me reiterate. I think he’s a really good coach.....and I think he can and will/would succeed at UL. The issue is can he survive long enough to get things going?

Does their new AD strike you as a slimeball? Not me. I think he is the polar opposite of jurich. This new coach has to maintain the fans interest, just like at any other school. If they fill the pizza palace up pretty good, he will be fine. They won't sell out, unless they are ranked and playing the best ACC talent. That's just how it goes at ul. UK is somewhat similar, but we do fill it up against most all of the SEC. Cupcakes not so much, but that is commonplace anymore these days. Everyone will know in year one whether this guy can coach or not. It will be clearly evident in the way his team competes. If they fight in every game, he will probably be there for quite a while. From what he did at App State, I think he'll probably do well there.

 

[law1127]

It’s amazing how the sleaziness factor is routinely overlooked, in assessing u6’s appeal or success in future recruiting. It takes a certain type player to want to enter into the sh!thole that u6 athletics are and represent! There are tough times ahead for the cards!

 

[84Alumni]

It’s amazing how the sleaziness factor is routinely overlooked, in assessing u6’s appeal or success in future recruiting. It takes a certain type player to want to enter into the sh!thole that u6 athletics are and represent! There are tough times ahead for the cards!

In the past you are totally correct. Jurich and Sons ran the AD like it was a mob storefront business, with their president Ramsey as THE boss.....Then you had a proven liar and character-less HC football coach with his family, lol, literally, running the show.

In 2019 that is all gone. New president. New AD. New Coach....and from all appearances, these are upstanding citizens. Big change for ul. We'll see how it works out for them. Given this coaches first step with HS coaches, I think the Louisville area just got a lot tougher to recruit.

 

[CB3UK]

I think he'll do well in the long run. Short term we should be able to whip up on em. We'll see how each of us build from here.

 

[JDHoss]

I had hoped that Tyra would change the culture at University Six to where it would be tolerable, but his spineless decision to not have security escort Crum to the locker room left me little hope for that.

 

[1991greywildcat]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

The kid is the one that used Kentucky as a catapult to win the Mr. Football award..

 

[1991greywildcat]

He remembers UK shooting 13% against Georgetown in ‘84.

Ok, but how much? This yr wasn’t all bad coaching.

-There are significant talent voids in various areas across the roster......and this current recruiting class will likely be dreadful. You don’t have something to lean on right now. For instance, Cunningham looks like he could be good in the future, but you can’t protect him next yr....nor is he good enough to carry the offense without a line or WRs. There isn’t a stud RB to lean on. The defense is in crazy disarray.

-There will be an entirely new staff.....with new schemes, terminology, etc. You can usually count on 1-3 yrs for things to be a little shaky before things start to be second nature bb

-There still is a stink around UL due to the Adidas scandal, etc. And while it’s not football, you can bet there’s at least a handful of recruits out there who have a slight negative bias to UL right now because of it. And you can bet some opposing coaches will bring it up.

-Satterfield is from the Carolinas.....and has never coached/played outside of App St or Toledo. He doesn’t have massive ties to the Louisville area. He hasn’t recruited guys that are the caliber of guys he needs to get at UL. He hasn’t coached in the Power 5.....nor the G5....which means his staff will likely be guys who haven’t either save for some exceptions.

-UL fans have shown that they won’t come to games if the wins aren’t there.



So, let’s assume that they can win 4-5 games next yr......sounds great....it’s double the wins this past yr. But with the uphill battle that’s coming, can Satterfield win before the window closes?.....sure he can....he’s a really good coach.....but he’s in a very bad situation. I wouldn’t have taken the UL job right now if I were him. Let someone else be “the rebound guy” to pull them out of a hole....then take over.

Louisville would not of hired Satterfeild either, if they could of getten anyone better.. They know he is going to have difficulty recruiting the area, Kentucky is actually the least of who they will be recruiting against, outside of a few instate kids.. It's gonna be the Notre Dame, Ohio schools, Michigan, Michigan State, others around in the immediate areas that is gonna end up killing Louisville.. I can see alot of JC players in there future, i mean alot..

 

[WildcatofNati]

I think I am uncovering the "Deep State" of UK Football. That is the mindset where anything and everything stamped UK is golden, and beyond reproach = pseudo-reality. I bring up NB to ferret out those that are proponents of him coming back to UK someday. That would be a tremendous mistake, similar to Joker's Operation Win scenario. Great that he was a player under Mumme - no problem. Thank you for your commitment. However, not the right guy for any coaching position at UK IF you want to win in the SEC. Look at wins and who they have been against, and you will find they are predominantly losing teams, all the way back to TTech days. AD's realize this, as he is still not a hot candidate for any job that I've seen. We just need our AD to know this, and that is the scary part. He's made many poor hires during his tenure.

Brown was a coordinator at Texas Tech. I am not going to give him credit for wins there or blame for losses. The buck stops with the head coach. Now, at Troy, he is the head coach, and his overall record is quite comparable to that of Satterfield, with one notable exception. The exception is that Brown has signature wins over P5 team, LSU being the big one. Satterfield has some very impressive losses (for example Penn St. this year), but so does Brown (Clemson in second year). In fact, Brown would have been an excellent choice for U6, but their fans would have been too butthurt about some comments he made a few years ago, making fun of them, and they would been toxic if he had been the choice.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

Meh. I give this hire a solid C if I'm a UL fan.

1. No one has been after this guy. UNC is hiring a coach, and he is the obvious choice and they instead hire a 67 year old retread.
2. That roster is BAD, folks. That doesn't get fixed in a year.
3. The guy saying that they win 7 games next year is insane. Their schedule has ND, Clemson, Miami, FSU, Va Tech, and UK next year. And teams like NC State, Syracuse, and UVA all have better rosters too.
4. I'm sure Satterfield will do better than Petrino within the city of Louisville, but honestly, who wouldn't? Petrino had basically shut it down.

Bottom line, this is an easy win next year and UK is positioned to match the four in a row that we won from them a decade ago.

 

[mebeblue2]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

i call BS on that

 

[seccats04]

Yeah, no question it's Stoops/Marrow's fault the kid's a pathological liar.

A selfish narcissist. He used his cousin's death to commit to UK on her birthday and then turns around a month later and decommits. What dishonor.

 

[gobigblue812]

It's amazing you started a positive ul thread and yet this thread is nearly your entire posting history but you aren't a U6 fan?

 

[gobigblue812]

By the way, if "we" as you say, keep winning, scott will have difficulty getting many louisville kids between Brohm and Stoops.

 

[VikingCat21]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

I love these stupid “I know something but won’t say what it is” posts. You’re full of shit.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I love Marrow. But UK didn't do themselves any favors within the state with the way they handled or mishandled the Robinson situation. I'll leave it at that. But Wandale has taken too much of a beating without any regard to what went down. Stoops need to learn from that.

As a fan of a school in a state that produces alot of D1 talent and has a head coach and 5 members of the staff who have finished in top 5 on national recruiter's rankings. Sometimes a kid just want to go somewhere different. It sucks when you don't really have much of a shot at an instate kid, but it is what it is.

 

[84Alumni]

Meh. I give this hire a solid C if I'm a UL fan.

1. No one has been after this guy. UNC is hiring a coach, and he is the obvious choice and they instead hire a 67 year old retread.
2. That roster is BAD, folks. That doesn't get fixed in a year.
3. The guy saying that they win 7 games next year is insane. Their schedule has ND, Clemson, Miami, FSU, Va Tech, and UK next year. And teams like NC State, Syracuse, and UVA all have better rosters too.
4. I'm sure Satterfield will do better than Petrino within the city of Louisville, but honestly, who wouldn't? Petrino had basically shut it down.

Bottom line, this is an easy win next year and UK is positioned to match the four in a row that we won from them a decade ago.

Thankfully our coaches fully understand that an instate rivalry game is NEVER a given win. I think we just lost a "LOCK" rivalry game against a non-bowl team, right? Thinking like that is what gets you beat. We'll see how it goes for them

 

[1991greywildcat]

As a fan of a school in a state that produces alot of D1 talent and has a head coach and 5 members of the staff who have finished in top 5 on national recruiter's rankings. Sometimes a kid just want to go somewhere different. It sucks when you don't really have much of a shot at an instate kid, but it is what it is.[/QUOT]

Ah, Kentucky will find better 3 stars out of Georgia, let Robinson go to and veiw a corn field for the next 5 yeArs of his life..

 

[1991greywildcat]

By the way, if "we" as you say, keep winning, scott will have difficulty getting many louisville kids between Brohm and Stoops.

Not only that, he has to deal with Notre Dame, Indiana area school, Ohio State, other ohio schools, Tennessee and there other big schools.. He has alot of recruiting competition in this region.. At Appalachian State he could just pick out area players and a few D1 transfers to get by on, will not be able to that at Louisville, dealing with Kentucky and the ACC..

 

[teetim]

Some of the responses

Yeah, no question it's Stoops/Marrow's fault the kid's a pathological liar.

Some of the responses to my post are ridiculous. The ones saying I'm full of shit are fine, mainly because I don't really care about what any of you think about me personally or whether you believe anything I post. But why do something as stupid as call a kid a pathological liar? You don't know him. I can say with confidence that you molest collies, and I'm probably right. But I don't know you, so it would be irresponsible and ignorant for someone to state as fact something they don't know.

Just consider that many times a coach may give a player assurances to get his commitment and then change his tune after the player has committed. It happens all the time. And if a player commits under the understanding of a certain set of circumstances and the coach changes that circumstance; the player is able to change his mind. It's not lying. And I credit the coach for at least informing the recruit of the change so he's not committed under false circumstances.

Quit villifying the kid. This is big time college football recruiting. Act like a big time football fan.

 

[mrschwump]

Some of the responses


Some of the responses to my post are ridiculous. The ones saying I'm full of shit are fine, mainly because I don't really care about what any of you think about me personally or whether you believe anything I post. But why do something as stupid as call a kid a pathological liar? You don't know him. I can say with confidence that you molest collies, and I'm probably right. But I don't know you, so it would be irresponsible and ignorant for someone to state as fact something they don't know.

Just consider that many times a coach may give a player assurances to get his commitment and then change his tune after the player has committed. It happens all the time. And if a player commits under the understanding of a certain set of circumstances and the coach changes that circumstance; the player is able to change his mind. It's not lying. And I credit the coach for at least informing the recruit of the change so he's not committed under false circumstances.

Quit villifying the kid. This is big time college football recruiting. Act like a big time football fan.

WR SAID in an interview he was signing with UK in 2 weeks and starting to school in Jan. Not 10 minutes later came stories he was decommitting and committing to Neb. HE said it, not you, not me...HE said it. What rational person would do that? If family/friend ties keep you from seeing he's a blatant bald face liar that's your problem.

Why don't you act like you have a brain and use it?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Thanks to all for a lively debate, or not, lol. It did allow me to cull the ranks, after all, wasting time is not a successful trait


Can I borrow that Crystal Ball this weekend? LOL. I'm just amazed how folks can formulate such finite opinions....or not. After all, it is the internet, and everyone knows everything about anything ; )

Truth be told, you, nor anyone else on planet earth knows exactly what kind of hire he is with certainty. However, based on his past performance at App State, most people would "guess" that he is a good hire. They may be right, or may be wrong?

Conversely, many here on this board think Neal Brown is the greatest thing since sliced bread ; ) I find that funny, since the vast majority of his wins have come against losing teams, dating back to his days at Texas Tech. I think they call it fools gold. Personally, I am rooting for him to get a job in the SEC East, but these damn AD's are just too smart for that.

The more you post, the more you sound like a UL fan. Can you imagine anything more pathetic than a UL fan posting on this board pretending to not be a UL fan?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Any successful coach at UofL "hurts" UK by getting more prospects from Jefferson Co.
Been that way for a long time. But we've seen UK can pull it's share as long as the program is doing well. We shouldn't be worried about it one bit, and just be thankful they were a TRAIN wreck this year when there were so many P5 guys available.

UK has to work twice as hard to get Louisville recruits. The real test for UL fans and Satterfield will be when Brohm comes shopping next year. UL fans now want all Louisville recruits. They think the failures of the past couple of years are solely the result of Petrino’s petulant behavior. If Brohm coaxes their recruits away again next year, it’s gonna hurt more.

 

[Cardinals19701]

Ok, but how much?

-Satterfield is from the Carolinas.....and has never coached/played outside of App St or Toledo. He doesn’t have massive ties to the Louisville area. He hasn’t recruited guys that are the caliber of guys he needs to get at UL. He hasn’t coached in the Power 5.....nor the G5....which means his staff will likely be guys who haven’t either save for some exceptions.t.

Just to keep the facts straight Satterfield was the OC at FIU in 2010 & 2011 before he got the App State job.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Just to keep the facts straight Satterfield was the OC at FIU in 2010 & 2011 before he got the App State job.

Facts, huh? I’ll give you a minute while you look up what conference FIU was in in 2010 and 2011. After you find out, go back and re-read my post. I’ll gladly concede if you fact check your fact check.

 

[teetim]

WR SAID in an interview he was signing with UK in 2 weeks and starting to school in Jan. Not 10 minutes later came stories he was decommitting and committing to Neb. HE said it, not you, not me...HE said it. What rational person would do that? If family/friend ties keep you from seeing he's a blatant bald face liar that's your problem.

Why don't you act like you have a brain and use it?

I'm certain I have better information than you. So I'm comfortable with my stance. If you want to go on calling a kid a liar based on assumptions, have at it. I'm not an insider, by any means. But considering my source, I'm OK acting like one in this case. Kid wanted to come to Kentucky, period. Watch the waiver wire and see if this anticipated transfer actually happens. Then wonder if the possibility of this transfer may have impacted what Coach Stoops would tell a kid.

 

[mrschwump]

I'm certain I have better information than you. So I'm comfortable with my stance. If you want to go on calling a kid a liar based on assumptions, have at it. I'm not an insider, by any means. But considering my source, I'm OK acting like one in this case. Kid wanted to come to Kentucky, period. Watch the waiver wire and see if this anticipated transfer actually happens. Then wonder if the possibility of this transfer may have impacted what Coach Stoops would tell a kid.

If you have info lay it the table.

 

[mrschwump]

I'm certain I have better information than you. So I'm comfortable with my stance. If you want to go on calling a kid a liar based on assumptions, have at it. I'm not an insider, by any means. But considering my source, I'm OK acting like one in this case. Kid wanted to come to Kentucky, period. Watch the waiver wire and see if this anticipated transfer actually happens. Then wonder if the possibility of this transfer may have impacted what Coach Stoops would tell a kid.

If you have info lay it on the table.