Looks like the committee must want an undefeated Gonzaga. Made the # 2, #3 and #4 seeds in the West all teams that Gonzaga beat by double digits earlier this season.
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Gonzaga does play in a weak conference but they have played a lot better OOC opponents this season. Just this year they have beaten Kansas, WVU, Iowa, and Virginia.Gonzaga is just like Norte Dame in collage football. extremely weak ass schedule , extremely week ass conference .
This is the year to do it. Only have to win 32 games and traditional powers Duke, UK, UNC, KU, UCLA, Michigan State and Arizona are down or out. Even challenger Villanova is now wounded....will it be an instant asterisk season like Maris with 61 homers in 162 games, or Barry Bonds' steroid-soaked all time HR record, or, in some people's minds anyway, the Houston Astros' title?
Or will it immediately replace the 1976 Indiana team as the last to go undefeated, with no shadow or taint over it at all?
The asterisk argument:
Absolutely nothing was normal about this college basketball season, from summer workouts to games -- hell, whole conferences -- cancelling to lost practices and on and on. And any hope of a perfect season rested on virtually all the historic elite powers suffering Covid-related sub-par seasons. Let's face it, in any other year, Gonzaga is not going undefeated.
The no asterisk argument:
Gonzaga played who was out there to be played. It was level-if far from normal- playing field. Why should the Zags be penalized because other programs were down this year for whatever colelction of reasons?
My opinion: If it happens, many people will discount it as a truly significant accomplishment on the scale of what would have happened if Kentucky had completed the deal in 2015.
It'll be seen as a mostly legitimate title -- always hard to win -- but it won't be seen as the biggest accomplishment in the sport so far this century. Gonzaga won't even be seen as a great team, along the lines of 2012 Kentucky or 2001 Duke or 2009 North Carolina (Cheats).
They can only do so much with the conference they are in. They scheduled a very impressive OOC schedule, featuring Kansas/Auburn/Iowa/Virgina/BYU/West Virginia/and would have played Baylor if not for COVID. Easily one of the toughest non-conference schedules out there, and hell they would wipe the floor with Kentucky right now.Gonzaga is just like Norte Dame in collage football. extremely weak ass schedule , extremely week ass conference .
WVU slowed the game down and they didn’t like it. Zags pulled away late to win but I think Baylor is the team that can control the pace then beat them.Gonzaga does play in a weak conference but they have played a lot better OOC opponents this season. Just this year they have beaten Kansas, WVU, Iowa, and Virginia.
I’d take the field just to get Baylor.I'll still take the field over them to win it all and will always do so until someone actually goes undefeated. Smart money and all.
**disclaimer** - I don't actually bet on anything I have no input in...... 🤣
Agreed, Baylor is the one team that I can see beating them. Their guard play is amazing and gives them a great chance to win in that situation.WVU slowed the game down and they didn’t like it. Zags pulled away late to win but I think Baylor is the team that can control the pace then beat them.
I think the exact opposite, it's really hard to beat the same team twice in one season and they may have to do it three separate times.Looks like the committee must want an undefeated Gonzaga. Made the # 2, #3 and #4 seeds in the West all teams that Gonzaga beat by double digits earlier this season.
Yes, I think Baylor, if their guards are on can beat them, but the flip side is they have no one to guard Timme. Vital is a 6'5 pf and his motor is amazing, but Timme with put up 30+ on them.WVU slowed the game down and they didn’t like it. Zags pulled away late to win but I think Baylor is the team that can control the pace then beat them.
I’d take the field just to get Baylor.
You doing that for every other sport. College football? NBA? MLB? NHL? PGA?...will it be an instant asterisk season like Maris with 61 homers in 162 games, or Barry Bonds' steroid-soaked all time HR record, or, in some people's minds anyway, the Houston Astros' title?
Or will it immediately replace the 1976 Indiana team as the last to go undefeated, with no shadow or taint over it at all?
The asterisk argument:
Absolutely nothing was normal about this college basketball season, from summer workouts to games -- hell, whole conferences -- cancelling to lost practices and on and on. And any hope of a perfect season rested on virtually all the historic elite powers suffering Covid-related sub-par seasons. Let's face it, in any other year, Gonzaga is not going undefeated.
The no asterisk argument:
Gonzaga played who was out there to be played. It was level-if far from normal- playing field. Why should the Zags be penalized because other programs were down this year for whatever colelction of reasons?
My opinion: If it happens, many people will discount it as a truly significant accomplishment on the scale of what would have happened if Kentucky had completed the deal in 2015.
It'll be seen as a mostly legitimate title -- always hard to win -- but it won't be seen as the biggest accomplishment in the sport so far this century. Gonzaga won't even be seen as a great team, along the lines of 2012 Kentucky or 2001 Duke or 2009 North Carolina (Cheats).
Have you seen their schedule this year? Their OOC slate was legit.
WVU slowed the game down and they didn’t like it. Zags pulled away late to win but I think Baylor is the team that can control the pace then beat them.
We shall see. Baylor and Gonzaga were supposed to play during the regular season but it was cancelled. I’m glad it was now. I want to see that game when it’s all on the line.I think Gonzaga would beat Baylor by 10+, Gonzaga, when they do struggle, struggle with size. Illinois with Cockburn and Michigan could give them tough games. Also, FSU as their 4 is not a good matchup for them, would be interesting if they got to play each other.
I think Gonzaga would beat Baylor by 10+, Gonzaga, when they do struggle, struggle with size. Illinois with Cockburn and Michigan could give them tough games. Also, FSU as their 4 is not a good matchup for them, would be interesting if they got to play each other.
Eh, I think they can keep it within a reasonable range but their starting "center" is Ej Lidell and he is only 6'8. I think the only weakness of Gonzaga might be paint defense so you got have some bigs that excel in the paint. I know UNC will never make it to play them in the finals, but they would give Zaga a lot of issues with their offensive rebounding and size.You think OSU could give them a run for their money if they somehow made the Title game? Can't remember if OSU had a lot of size or not compared to the other Big 10 teams like Michigan.
God I hope not. I've got too much money invested in that game.Baylor is going to lose to UNC.
God I hope not. I've got too much money invested in that game.
If only they had played earlier in the season...oh yeah, they did. Waxed em by 24.Virginia will take the Zags out...
If they go undefeated they fully deserve all the credit in the world. Anybody that says otherwise is crazy.
Isn't their conference mate BYU a 6 seed in the tourney? And St. Mary's is usually in. Virginia lost to 2 WCC teams this season.Easy to go undefeated playing a bible college & a barber school every game once their conference play starts 😑. They will lose to Oklahoma in second round my prediction for an upset.
BYU & St Mary’s😂. Fair to say replace Gonzaga with UK & UK goes undefeated in that conference 8 times out of the last 10 years maybe ?Isn't their conference mate BYU a 6 seed in the tourney? And St. Mary's is usually we in. Virginia lost to 2 WCC teams this season.
What about this year?BYU & St Mary’s😂. Fair to say replace Gonzaga with UK & UK goes undefeated in that conference 8 times out of the last 10 years maybe ?
BYU & St Mary’s😂. Fair to say replace Gonzaga with UK & UK goes undefeated in that conference 8 times out of the last 10 years maybe ?
Yep. So easy, that in the past 40 years, there have been over 11,000 seasons played by teams from non-major conferences. Exactly 3 teams (UNLV, Wichita State the other 2) have been undefeated going into the NCAA Tournament.Easy to go undefeated playing a bible college & a barber school every game once their conference play starts 😑. They will lose to Oklahoma in second round my prediction for an upset.
They’re more like Boise State when it comes to conference scheduleGonzaga is just like Norte Dame in collage football. extremely weak ass schedule , extremely week ass conference .
What does UK have to do with Gonzaga?BYU & St Mary’s😂. Fair to say replace Gonzaga with UK & UK goes undefeated in that conference 8 times out of the last 10 years maybe ?
I think the exact opposite, it's really hard to beat the same team twice in one season and they may have to do it three separate times.