IF Duke Lands Giles; We Get Who Most Think We Will...2017 Duke Vs UK??

[dlh331]

Center: Jeter vs Humphries

PF: Giles vs Lee

SF: Tatum vs Gabriel

PG: Thornton vs Fox

SG: Allen vs Monk

Bench: Duke would have Matt Jones, Kennard, Obi, Delaurier, Frank Jackson
UK would have Mulder, Matthews, Wynyard, Jarrett Allen, Killeya-Jones, Willis, Hawkins

Very close in talent. Who is better overall?

Thanks, Darryl

 

[CUT-NETS]

Toss up with the exception of a few positions. Comes down to scheme, coaching, and who's making shots.

 

[Smashcat]

UK will be fine.

 

[gossie21]

Giles may still be recovering from his ACL tear (his second one). I hate that for him, but he will most likely be back to full strength by March.

 

[RipThru]

Giles may still be recovering from his ACL tear (his second one). I hate that for him, but he will most likely be back to full strength by March.

A four month recovery for an ACL tear?

 

[gossie21]

A four month recovery for an ACL tear?

No. I'm talking about next season. He should be back to full strength for Duke in March 2017.

Didn't Derek Anderson have a 2 month recovery?

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

He's had two ACL tears in 2 years..... thats injury prone and the way Duke plays..... another injury is a serious possibility

 

[caneintally]

Ah Lee is gone so that is sorta off but UK this year is light year's better then DUke . Next year though it will be close . But Monk/Fox/Matthews/Gabriel/Humphries ( I think gabriel will start at pf but play like a SF if you get my drift) is a better starting 5 then duke's because Fox and Monk are much much better then Thornton and Allen .

 

[stenchymouse]

Overall, Duke probably would have the talent advantage but by March, I'd like our chances with Fox and Monk as our guards!

 

[KDcats11]

How can anyone say confidently that Lee is gone after this season? He has shown nothing to indicate to this point that he will be a first round pick. It's one thing to suggest that he could leave, but to act like it's a sure thing is completely misguided.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

How can anyone say confidently that Lee is gone after this season? He has shown nothing to indicate to this point that he will be a first round pick. It's one thing to suggest that he could leave, but to act like it's a sure thing is completely misguided.

Look at it this way.... Ulis and Lee won't raise their draft stock at all coming back another year...... so they could leave and try to make a team or play over seas. Whether its in the NBA even at a minimum contract or over seas.....they'll make tons more money than another year at UK for free . So its all up to them... do they want money now or do they enjoy playing at UK.

 

[KDcats11]

Look at it this way.... Ulis and Lee won't raise their draft stock at all coming back another year...... so they could leave and try to make a team or play over seas. Whether its in the NBA even at a minimum contract or over seas.....they'll make tons more money than another year at UK for free . So its all up to them... do they want money now or do they enjoy playing at UK.

Yeah, I get all that. And for their sake I really hope they get drafted and live their dreams. But at this point it is far from a sure thing that they will leave, especially Marcus.

 

[Montana81]

I don't think Marcus Lee is a guy that would do that. I think if he's not a lock for a guaranteed contract after this season he's more likely to stick around and just finish his degree.

The thing is, right now he's a 6'9 center. He's too small to play center in the league and he's a long way from developing any reliable face up skills.

its possible he gets drafted on his ridiculous athleticism alone(6'9 with a 40" vertical and a 7'3 wingspan).

Cal seems to be recruiting as if he thinks Lee is gone.

 

[kentucky_wildcat_#1]

I would take our roster over theirs. I know Giles is a great prospect, but you also have to consider the fact this makes his second ACL tear and to be honest, he will more than likely recover at 100%, but with ACLs, you just never know and it could effect his game for the rest of his life. I don't think he will be the player that many expect him to be. With so many injuries like this happening to him, ACL tears will be in the back of his mind and may make him never go at it 100% effort. Even with ACL problems, odds are he will still be a better player than Lee. No disrespect meant here, but until Lee proves he is improving his game every year, he will be behind a kid like Giles in talent. Giles is elite and Lee aint. I would put money on Humphries being a better player than Jeter from day 1. After a year of playing for Cal, i expect Humphries to be a lock to start at center and be a force in the post. Humphries has more talent than Jeter and i don't think it's even close. His skillset is so much more. While watching a guy like Jeter, i just wonder how he talked K and Duke into taking him at Duke. Jeter will be a 4 year bench player for Duke. I know most are going to take Tatum over Gabriel, but i don't agree with it. If we're talking right now, yeah, that might be the case. I just think Gabriel's skillset and potential is so much higher than Tatum. With Tatum, what you see is what you get. To be honest, he looks like the same player now than he was his SO year of highschool. He's good. No one can deny that. He is a better talent at this moment than Gabriel, but with still another year until these kids suit up, i think Gabriel has time to catch him and be a better player than Tatum. It may seem silly, but Gabriel is a kid that has as much potential as any player in this class. He is so long, tall and can shoot the ball. He is very quick at his size. Guys like him are so valuable with the way you can move them all over the floor. I will take Fox and Monk as a backcourt over any school's backcourt in the country. Fox is a better player than Thornton right now and has more potential as well. Monk is a beast and a better player from day 1 than Allen. I know Allen looked pretty good during the tourney, but before that, he wasn't doing that much to produce. Monk will be a better scorer and put up better stats than Allen. I will have to see Allen produce for more than a few games at a time before i'm sold on that kid.