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I just don't get the pushback on Drew

Scott drew last 5 years
128-35
9-3 NCAA tournament
1 ncaa championship

Bill self last 5 years
130-37
9-3 NCAA tournament
1 NCAA championship
Yeah don't bring facts here. Don't you know Baylor was a top 10 job when he came there? LOL. Armpit college is what it was. Terrible coaching job. Winning a championship at Baylor is akin to UK winning a championship in football. Or Indiana even.
 
If UK does end up hiring Scott Drew, he will have the most impressive resume of any incoming men's bball coach UK has ever hired. He's already won a NCAAT title. He's one of only what.....6 or 7 active coaches that have won one.

Joe B. Hall had never been a head coach I don't believe.
Eddie Sutton one F4 run in 1978 at Arkansas.
Rick Pitino one F4 run in 1987 at Providence.
Tubby Smith no F4 runs.
Billy Gillispie.....well do I even need to comment on this disaster. He did beat UL/Pitino in Rupp in the NCAAT while at TAMU.
John Calipari two F4 runs one in 1996 with UMass and 2008 with Memphis.

Drew's not my first choice, but I'd be good with it. We've been saying all season long and for many several years that anyone is better than CCC. Well, here we are griping about this guy and that guy and blah blah blah. If Drew ends up being the hire, then lets at least give the guy a chance.
 
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He had one good year out of 21.

I think 21 years is plenty of time, especially for such an amazing coach. He has a .500 conference record, and only 3 conference titles.
This is what I don’t understand why people want him here? He had 1 good year! So, did Kevin Ollie.
 
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I'm honestly excited to see what level Kentucky basketball can elevate a coach like Scott Drew. Is my first choice? No. Is a bad choice? Far from it. I was always told Kentucky basketball is like no other program in college basketball. It's why we've had so many different coaches when a title. I'm pumped to see what that so called, "magic" can do for the next coach.
 
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This is what I don’t understand why people want him here? He had 1 good year! So, did Kevin Ollie.
What do you all consider a good year? 30-8 and elite 8 isn’t a good year? 28-8, elite 8 isn’t a good year? 26-4 before the cancellation of the conference and NCAA tournaments isn’t a good year? 6 single digit loss seasons at Baylor. Baylor made 4 ncaa tournament appearances before drew came to town.
 
What do you all consider a good year? 30-8 and elite 8 isn’t a good year? 28-8, elite 8 isn’t a good year? 26-4 before the cancellation of the conference and NCAA tournaments isn’t a good year? 6 single digit loss seasons at Baylor. Baylor made 4 ncaa tournament appearances before drew came to town.
Correct, but people are on here spewing nonsense without any facts. I think sometimes people on here read another complaint and then just run with it. I have said before while he would not be my first choice to say that Drew is a bad hire is just nonsense. He has about as good of track record as you will find at a school that is not a basketball school at all.
 
I'm not saying he's my first choice either. However, the guy is a damn fine ball coach. Whatever success he had at Baylor will be amplified at UK. I see us back at the UK standard. I'm not saying it's like the Pitino years or Cals first 6 but he can certainly make final fours and win titles. We'll see guys grow and stick in the program for more than one year and see a guy who is prepped and primed on game day. He's a very good hire. Again, he's probably 4th for me, but still a guy I can get behind. My list would be;
1. Hurley
2. Donovan
3. Oats
4. Drew
No shame in being 4th behind those names.
Not my dream choice but he took Baylor from a program that was despised by the CBB world…flaming garbage-to-NCAA Champs.. As he accepted the job, ALL BU players were granted a full release from the program. Many thought BU should get a SMU football type punishment (temporary shutdown).

He started from subzero and built a championship caliber program.

He can flat out recruit AND coach Xs & Os and he will prioritize wins and banners.

We would be in good shape with Coach Drew at UK.

GBB!
 
I think some of our fans have been conditioned by the end of the Cal era to just be pissed off.. I think that there is a segment ( not very large but very vocal) of fans that are mad that Cal is gone and are throwing shade at the probable new coach. I think there is another segment that overvalued the UK brand. They can't fathom why the Lute Olsens or Hurleys or even Donovans won't drop everything and come hete when Kentucky calls. I have watched 6 previous coaching searches at UK and there always appear to be people who are shocked or angry when people turn us down. There were people who railed about us hiring Joe B,alot of them. There were LOTS of folks that hated the Sutton hire ( with good reason it turned out) . Pitino was the least controversial hire I can remember because we were on probation and most everyone knew we had to take what we could get and Rick had oa good resume. Tubby hire had lots of detractors for alot of different reason. Billy G ,I my self was one of the hell raisers. There were alot of fans at first that didn't like the Cal hire at first. Winning solved that as it will with the new coach.
 
What do you all consider a good year? 30-8 and elite 8 isn’t a good year? 28-8, elite 8 isn’t a good year? 26-4 before the cancellation of the conference and NCAA tournaments isn’t a good year? 6 single digit loss seasons at Baylor. Baylor made 4 ncaa tournament appearances before drew came to town.
Exactly, apparently only one team has a good year every year. Kentucky has only had 8 good years in its history. Lol
 
I'm not saying he's my first choice either. However, the guy is a damn fine ball coach. Whatever success he had at Baylor will be amplified at UK. I see us back at the UK standard. I'm not saying it's like the Pitino years or Cals first 6 but he can certainly make final fours and win titles. We'll see guys grow and stick in the program for more than one year and see a guy who is prepped and primed on game day. He's a very good hire. Again, he's probably 4th for me, but still a guy I can get behind. My list would be;
1. Hurley
2. Donovan
3. Oats
4. Drew
No shame in being 4th behind those names.
Could being a "Tubbyfan" be a source of your confusion? Tubby wasn't the right fit for Kentucky and that's the way that played out. Drew is a bad fit for UK, IMO. He's perfect for Baylor, not UK. UK is settling for coach that will be swallowed whole at UK. JMO.
 
Could being a "Tubbyfan" be a source of your confusion? Tubby wasn't the right fit for Kentucky and that's the way that played out. Drew is a bad fit for UK, IMO. He's perfect for Baylor, not UK. UK is settling for coach that will be swallowed whole at UK. JMO.
It's 2024 dude. There's only one reason left to still have hate for Tubby Smith.
 
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Except you don't know if he has contacted those options. I'd bet my house Barnhart has through back channels contacted all of them. I'm saying if we land on Drew that's not a bad thing. Obviously you didn't understand my post as I clearly has him my 4th choice. However, he's a hell of a 4th choice.

The question wasn't whether or not he's a good choice - the question was why there is push back.

The reason there is push back could not be any clearer.
 
You can make that exact same statement about every coach on that list so it's meaningless. Every coach has performed better here than his previous job except the drunks.
Yes, and all the sober ones won championships, even though a couple had some coaching issues(Tubby's recruiting and Cal's we've beaten to death).
 
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I think people need to check the Baylor message board and see their collective thoughts on this. What comes up over and over is that Drew promotes a culture of joy. Like the dude at UVA, he's a legit Christian (quite unlike another coach who always seems to toot his horn when serving others). He seems to take evangelism and disciple-making more seriously than basketball. And I cannot blame the guy - following Jesus seems to demand that. But they're saying our "winning is everything" fanbase will not be a good fit for him.
I'm not opposed to Drew but I think religion should have just as much to do with hiring our next coach as politics(nothing).
 
Yeah don't bring facts here. Don't you know Baylor was a top 10 job when he came there? LOL. Armpit college is what it was. Terrible coaching job. Winning a championship at Baylor is akin to UK winning a championship in football. Or Indiana even.
Well, Kentucky's football history is sublime compared to Baylor basketball. Imagine a new coach taking Vanderbilt to a national championship. That would be a lesser achievement than at Baylor because Vandy, like EVERY OTHER Power 5 conference team, has a better basketball history than Baylor.
 
I'm not saying he's my first choice either. However, the guy is a damn fine ball coach. Whatever success he had at Baylor will be amplified at UK. I see us back at the UK standard. I'm not saying it's like the Pitino years or Cals first 6 but he can certainly make final fours and win titles. We'll see guys grow and stick in the program for more than one year and see a guy who is prepped and primed on game day. He's a very good hire. Again, he's probably 4th for me, but still a guy I can get behind. My list would be;
1. Hurley
2. Donovan
3. Oats
4. Drew
No shame in being 4th behind those names.
Did we even go through that list in that order? I think that is the question.
 
He is #3 of the 3 guys we are looking at, lol.

But yeah, I guess a lot of our fans are dumb.
He might be #3, but that isn't a counterpoint to my post that you quoted. So maybe you aren't so smart yourself.
 
0 conference tournament titles. For a team wanting a coach that can do better in the postseason seems like a miss. Take away the one championship and the resume for the other 20 years don’t look so good.
 
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Yes, and all the sober ones won championships, even though a couple had some coaching issues(Tubby's recruiting and Cal's we've beaten to death).
I feel like he’s a better recruiter than Tubby and better game coach than Cal. So maybe not the extreme strengths but without the extreme weaknesses.
 
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