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I think many would be surprised how much the players dont care about the fans.
He is getting feedback.. if it is good enough for him he may jump. Which would be incredibly stupid in my opinion.
“Heard PJ may stay in the draft”
A risky prediction but with a good Payoff when trying to be an “insider”
There’s already been slight* “whispers” that PJ will declare (I still think he returns) but predicting him to declare based off his father’s/ circles comments isn’t really to much of a reach.
As far as topic on hand? I REALLY want Hagans. I would love to see him and Herro on the floor together.
Lastly, why do people feel the need to pretend to be an “insider” and have “sources?” What gives? Why not just talk/ discuss/ critique UK basketball: recruiting like the rest of us ? Is it in hopes that if their obscure, but not to crazy prediction comes true then other posters will see them as “credible?”
A risky prediction but with a good Payoff when trying to be an “insider”
There’s already been slight* “whispers” that PJ will declare (I still think he returns) but predicting him to declare based off his father’s/ circles comments isn’t really to much of a reach.
As far as topic on hand? I REALLY want Hagans. I would love to see him and Herro on the floor together.
Lastly, why do people feel the need to pretend to be an “insider” and have “sources?” What gives? Why not just talk/ discuss/ critique UK basketball: recruiting like the rest of us ? Is it in hopes that if their obscure, but not to crazy prediction comes true then other posters will see them as “credible?”
Good question. I believe though that in order to have a chance to win it all with the one and done guys, we gotta get the top 5 recruits. We're getting that next tier talent which will continue to equate to double digit loses, no final fours and gone after one year.
Figure that one out Frank and Dr. Phil will hire you. I've never seen the desires to "become something" on an internet site...
What position is PJ going to play in the NBA? A 6'7" PF with no shot, and can't hit freethrows. SGA we can afford to lose with Quickly, Hero and Johnson coming in, but with Knox leaving we need PJ back, or will have a front court of Gabriel, SKJ,and Richards. I don't even consider Diallo, he never wanted to be here in the first place, and contributes very little, other than 5 fouls.
Shai is destined for the G league or over seas. Hope he has all his shots up to date.
Diallo had a learning curve not unlike a lot of other freshman...he seemed to stick around for not liking to be at UK...
I agree we need a couple of elites.
EJ is ranked at 11and the #2 PF
Hagans is a top 5-7 player and Wiseman is a top 2.
I would hope he is not that stupid. My life won't change one way or the other. He is the one that will pay the price of a bad decision, not us fans.
Some of the guys coming here have no interest, none, in playing college bball more than one year. Reagardless of their projected draft position.
1) just except folks to leave. If they stay, great.
2) don’t trust message board posters.
2) don’t trust message board posters.
Yet we have never had one freshman leave that wasnt a OAD..... so just speculation on your part?
It could very well happen but this statement is not factual at his time.
Don’t go that far either. P.J. can be a great college player, much like the Villanova guys. Selfishly I don’t give a rats ass what happens to our guys or any players in college when they leave for the pros. I wish them the best but the university of Kentucky is where my allegiance lies. If we lose P.J. or anyone else besides Shai and Diallo, you can kiss our chances goodbye for next year.
Ridiculous he had a great freshman season. He’s 6-6 with tons of length. He maybe a lotto pick with guarantee millions. He’s old school but to label him or Knox as gleague just isn’t accurate. Both will see lots of min in the nba over the years
Agree with you misty, sans Hami. I feel like it started to “clique” more towards the end of the season/ tournament.
With our history of SUPER young teams I’ll take an athletic returning nearly “3rd year” player
Doesn't matter. Just let me know who is on the team Oct. 15th and I will be ready to cheer for the team. The freshman may be better or may be worse but I will still watch and enjoy.
Hagans is difference maker imo. Wiseman is too much for me to think about. But if Hagans comes this year, UK has a PG that can change the game.
EJ with an improved (hopefully) frontcourt of Gabriel, SKJ, and Richards would give me a lot more hope for next year. UK's back court could be lethal if Hagans does come. Green, Quickley, Herro, Hagans, and Baker.
With how weak 2019 draft is supposed to be PJ would be a fool not to wait one year. That's not from my fandom point of view, but money wise for him. Maybe not get drafted 1st round this year or possible lottery pick next year. I mean use your head. I have to assume he will and will be back.
I agree, yet I still see plenty of issues if we lose anyone else outside of KK, SGA and Hami.
Right now, the only "good news" there could be for OAD weary UK basketball fans would be knowing they have a solid core of returning players to rely on for once, rather than having to depend on a group of incoming freshmen to carry the load, as is always the case.
It truly would be amazing if PJ and his father decided that playing in the G league would be better than returning to UK as the LEADER of a top 5 team.
Add to this the fact that PJ is in a similar situation as Patrick Patterson was when Cal arrived, except Patrick was further along. PJ has to KNOW that he lacks the perimeter skills and shooting to thrive in the NBA at his size. Cal will work with him on those areas of his game, while getting to use the BEST facilities and training staff in the country.
Another year at UK sure beats riding a bus through podunk, USA playing in front of NO ONE with ZERO exposure. Did he not hear what Derek Willis said about the G-League? IT SUCKS!!
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PJ isn’t going anywhere. Well except back to his dorm room at UK. I can’t help but laugh at the meltdowns when an anonymous poster mentions a player may go without absolutely any basis. So in honor of that, I predict the world ends tomorrow. Let the biblical meltdown commence.
i wouldn't be surprised to see Washington go.
Vanderbilt probably comes back, but I wonder how much we can count on him? He hasn't played a full season in what 3 years?
I think Cal has to recruit with that in mind and just pretend Vanderbilt is never going to be healthy and if he is, it's bonus.
G Green/Quickley
G Hagans/Herro/Baker
F Johnson/Gabriel
F Vanderbilt/Montgomery
F Richards/Killeya-Jones
So, if Vanderbilt gets hurt again, you still have Montgomery and Gabriel that can play the 4.
Also, would be sweet if Wiseman reclassified and joined in.
G Green/Quickley
G Hagans/Herro/Baker
F Johnson/Gabriel
F Vanderbilt/Montgomery
F Wiseman/Richards/Killeya-Jones
If we lose Washington, I really hope we get Wiseman to reclassify.
Also, Wiseman has to come back as a Soph, unless the NBA changes the age rule. Be nice to know we have at least one stud back for sure.
Vanderbilt probably comes back, but I wonder how much we can count on him? He hasn't played a full season in what 3 years?
I think Cal has to recruit with that in mind and just pretend Vanderbilt is never going to be healthy and if he is, it's bonus.
G Green/Quickley
G Hagans/Herro/Baker
F Johnson/Gabriel
F Vanderbilt/Montgomery
F Richards/Killeya-Jones
So, if Vanderbilt gets hurt again, you still have Montgomery and Gabriel that can play the 4.
Also, would be sweet if Wiseman reclassified and joined in.
G Green/Quickley
G Hagans/Herro/Baker
F Johnson/Gabriel
F Vanderbilt/Montgomery
F Wiseman/Richards/Killeya-Jones
If we lose Washington, I really hope we get Wiseman to reclassify.
Also, Wiseman has to come back as a Soph, unless the NBA changes the age rule. Be nice to know we have at least one stud back for sure.
No need to be petty
Even if he’s “destined for the G league or overseas (way to early to tell ) I’m sure he won’t mind to much considering he’s gonna have a net worth of about $8 million dollars for playing for 3 years.
Yeah, if we lose Shai, PJ and Knox, that's most of our offense. PJ has basically no shot at being a first rounder, so I can't imagine why he would go.
lol, imbecilic.
So if PJ stays then Cal shouldn’t be fired? But if he declares he should definitely be fired.
Do you realize how absurd that sounds?
Done with what crap? Being on one of it not THE best 9 year run in our entire programs history?
Sure there are disappointments... but it’s college basketball. There’s always going to be disappointments.
I don’t understand how people get this idea in their head that Kentucky has ALWAYS been absolutely #1 title favorites every year. That’s never happened. Ever. Maybe during the Rupp Years? Which is over a half a century ago.
I’m willing to bet you can’t name one feasible coach we should aspire to get if we do as you wish and fire Cal.
Gimme a list of 3 coaches.
G-League right now is the professional sports equivalent of a scam. They lure kids to jump in based on what you said but very little of it is true. Coaching isn't even close to being college level so there is no way that player development is the same. I mean who would you rather learn the game from Coach Cal or Blake Ahearn? G League coaching might even be beneath high school level.
Salaries might be increasing but they are still absolutely pitful. And there's no indication of where the money will come from to increase them significantly. The NBA does not have the spare cash to make the staggering investment that would be needed to make any significant progress for player salaries.
Additionally it hurts players marketability. How many people follow the Timberwolves only because of Karl Towns? If KAT never came here then who the heck is Karl Towns? The G league will never be able to match that.
The G league is a low paying short time dead end street. It's the best way to waste your talent and end up working a Kroger's in a few years.
Don't get me wrong the G League has it's place but it's place is not a replacement for college basketball. The G League is at it's best when you have someone that played in college but isn't at this point good enough for the NBA. The G League gives them a place to keep playing while the continue to perfect what they learned in college.
If you did not care, you wouldn't have responded. Plus using intelligent back and forth and circle jerk in your response is pretty funny.
This meme has been around a long time brother... we used it way back in the early days.
And Doc is my huckleberry...
Still unclear to me why PJ would even go thru the process with a broken finger. If not at his best, what good is going to come from the feedback he gets? If he's such a lock to come back why doesn't he just have the surgery, give the hand plenty of time to heal, and be 100% for the summer trip? Cal and the staff don't know what he needs to improve?
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