Absolutely, build wise the two remind me of each other. Mac looks thicker than BA does at this point, neither will probably ever be ripped but you have to be solid playing this league. Even with the rules pampering the QBs, they still take some shots. I thought BA has started to look less slight this spring, he's definitely getting there. Also, I'm not saying he won't win out this Fall, just that it wouldn't be surprising if he needed another year to get his body where it needs to be.
Gatewood
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Got to keep in mind Jones is at least 3 years older, I cant remember if he is a RS, that could easily be the difference in them now.
Totally agree, I think BA will be a good one, just might not be his time yet.
Jones was a RS. He was also an EE and I recall seeing him that EE spring in the spring game. He was rail thin, thought he had a wimpy arm and was very tenative. Thought he looked WAY over his head. But college S/C and slowly building confidence allowed him time to grow. Difference here I think is MJ is legit 6'3", BA looks a listed 6'2" going on 5'11".
Cam was a freak, for sure, so comparisons to JG are very surface. However, IIRC, didn't Gatewood run like a 4.7 40? He doesn't start quickly from what I've seen but, if he's that fast, he should be very comfortable in the new offense with him able to get outside the contain and have a full head of steam to run. The RPO offense we ran didn't seem to fit JG's physical traits as he doesn't appear to be overly quick to full speed or shifty.
Cam, even in the NFL, has had accuracy problems (some of it is his technique, imo). With a QB-friendly offense, I would expect whoever starts to hit > 60% pretty easily. If the receiving weapons are as good as I hope (mid-SEC level with a definite playmaker or two), I think the QB, whoever it is, will be put in a good position to be very effective. Allen never had much of a chance to show anything last year for a myriad of reasons. I think both QBs need to work extremely hard this summer on their physical conditioning, footwork, strength, playbook, etc. and work out extensively with the receivers to develop comfort and timing. Whoever works the hardest will be the starter, imo. I do expect all three (JG, BA and Levis) to play snaps in multiple games. I hope it's not another one series to handoff 3 times into the A gap, though. That drove me crazy. Even the few times the backups got snaps, they weren't asked to do anything. Hell, Gatewood had one series where they motioned him out twice and ran the wildcat the 3 plays he was in. I mean, WTH?
1. Gatewood, to me, looked nothing like a 4.7 forty athlete that could also play QB. Running the ball he looked like Morgan Newton/JLO...which is nothing in the same universe as Cam Newton. His first game he took a RPO and was one on one with a CB/Safety in open field and he never once lowered his shoulder to deliver a blow with his body....he tried to juke them and was easily tackled multiple times. After watching him in 1.5 games he actually played....I was stunned how much he didn't run like a Cam Newton and hoped his accuracy and mental ability to throw would come around...because he's nothing like elite running QB.
But if he can run play action run game and hit nice throws to middle of field (where a ton of play action passing needs to hit)...I think he'll be fine and hopefully play faster than Hinshaw has ever been able to get our QBs to play. But if a raw player like Gatewood, that has never played under center at QB, is able to solidly beat out Beau Allen in this style of offense....I would wonder if Beau's arm strength is more of a problem than some imagine.
They are being fed that info from UK football staff. Whether or not is true or the source is lying is another issue. It’s not conjecture, it’s reporting source info.
Why would anyone be upset that the HC chose the best player, whoever it is?
I don't disagree with much of anything that you've said. However, to be fair to Allen, has he ever played in an offense under center? So many offenses are all shotgun/RPO stuff now that maybe he and Gatewood are having to climb the same hill.
I ask that only to say that if Gatewood beats out Allen, it may not mean much for predicting Allen's long-term prospects.
Levis could probably do that, but he could not participate in Kentucky’s spring football drills while still an enrolled student at Penn State.
Only 32 men in the history of the planet have the privilege of calling themselves super bowl winning QBs. Lamar is still a great QB even if he never wins a super bowl.
Look at Bama? Gonna have a QB drafted first round more than likely who wasn't much count as a freshman, sophomore etc
Everyone knew Wilson wasn't hurt to not play against Georgia. The Monday after the Georgia game he was taking QB1 snaps in practice.
Just didn't wanna be seen just how atrocious he was as a passer. His momma was tweeting out stuff back then as well.
Wilson was not hurt
Yeah, and for all of you that think Allan can't possibly be any good maybe you should look at Tom Brady's awesome build some time.
I don't know anyone like that personally, but some people may be upset by it. Lot of water going under the bridge between here and there, so it doesn't benefit anyone except the media to start a controversy where there isn't one.
I've seen Allen throw. I've never seen him have a problem with arm strength.
I will say that there are more roll out throws that may not be something Allen's used to, but he has the tools to adapt. Scalzo and Gatewood seem to throw better on roll outs from the little I have seen of them. Scalzo seems best at throwing back across his body to a receiver running the opposite direction as his roll out.
The offense is no where close to being fully installed. There will be changes in leadership at the position over the next few months with one overtaking the others and back and forth.
