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There are reasons that Cal avoided Alexander like the plague.

If they ever take a hard look at Alexander's transcripts or question how he got a passing ACT score, KU's season last year may be voided after all - although it would be no big loss. His high school team had their whole season vacated, although Cliff conveniently was one of the only 2-3 players on the team that was supposedly eligible.
 
"A day ago" before the early signing period opens up versus Fox who is still undecided and probably won't commit until the Spring?

If Fox is such a lock, why hasn't he committed and why is everyone working themselves into a lather over my OPINION that Kansas has a chance at both of them.


How do you know he is undecided and will wait until Spring? You have no clue.

I don't get worked up by you saying anything about Fox and I don't think anyone else does either. We get worked up over your audacity of coming on our board and acting like you know everything. That's what gets everyone worked up. Don't they reach manners in Kansas? Momma always told me to be respectful in someone else's home.
 
I think Louisville has a better chance at Fox than Kansas at this point, but I do think he is UK bound anyway, you know how cal is he will probably have a big announcement day on espn with 2 or 3 commits like he did with skal and Briscoe..
 
How do you know he is undecided and will wait until Spring? You have no clue.

I don't get worked up by you saying anything about Fox and I don't think anyone else does either. We get worked up over your audacity of coming on our board and acting like you know everything. That's what gets everyone worked up. Don't they reach manners in Kansas? Momma always told me to be respectful in someone else's home.

Easy big fella. Go back and read my posts and look up the definition of "opinion". How is stating an opinion disrespectful? Rational Kentucky fans welcome differing opinions. Actually, rational people do.

How do you know he is not undecided, by the way?
 
Agree that Murray is gone, but so probably is Selden at KU. Svi may head overseas. Kentucky will return Ulis, Briscoe, Matthews, Mulder, Willis, Hawkins and will likely add Simmons. Kind of crowded at both places, but less crowded at KU.

This has to be one of the dumbest posts in the history of this board.
 
Oh, the classic "troll" label. Grow up.

I've provided my opinion on the reasons why I think Kansas has a shot at Fox. You don't like my reasons, so you stomp your feet and call me a troll. I don't like your reasons he's going to Kentucky. "Because all the gurus say he's going to Kentucky?" All the gurus said Wiggins and Mudiay and Bridges, just to name three, were going to Kentucky and they didn't. Gurus pick Kentucky because of Cal's insane success at landing top talent, so more often then not, they will be right and can say they had "sources" when in reality, 99% of them have no clue where a kid is going because more often than not, their information is coming from sources that are not the kid himself.

Yes, there are the occasional surprise but for the most part, those "gurus" are pretty good at what they do. If they were simply guessing, like you are accusing, they would not be employed very long. If the gurus don't know anything, why did the label Giles a damn near lock for Duke for so long?

BECAUSE HE WAS A LOCK FOR DUKE! Now, there are things that happen that change the minds of recruits, such as the Bridges situation. Most believe he was coming to Lexington. Then the visit to MSU changed everything. Word got out that he had a change of heart and all the gurus changed their pick. And they were right! So, they had to know something. It's not a coincidence that they changed their pick.
 
I won't convince you that Fox, or any other recruit, is not a lock for Kentucky. You are a pretty vocal cheerleader for your team. The true definition of a fan. I will ask that you answer my question. If Fox is such a lock, why hasn't he committed? Could it be he is torn between two choices?

If he's torn between 2 place, you are screwed, KU is in 3rd place.
 
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If Kansas misses on Fox and Monk, we are still in it for Josh Jackson and recently offered Andrew Jones who is top 40.

To the poster who asked about my inside sources, who are yours? It's my opinion. KU was early leader, plays in his hometown conference, has playing time available, big stage, etc. And the consensus opinion of gurus is not 100%. Consensus is wrong quite often.

Josh Jackson? Bwahahaha!!! Consensus is wrong once in a while. But keep dreaming.
 
I can't argue with that. But I can argue that there is not a high demand for 5'8 point guards in the NBA who do not possess super athleticism, Ulis simply won't be able to defend NBA point guards. Briscoe is a ball dominant point guard as well, who can't shoot a consistent percentage at the college three, and won't be able at the longer NBA 3 and is not a lock down defender, nor does he possess ultra athleticism.

Just wow! You make yourself look dumber with every post.
 
Easy big fella. Go back and read my posts and look up the definition of "opinion". How is stating an opinion disrespectful? Rational Kentucky fans welcome differing opinions. Actually, rational people do.

How do you know he is not undecided, by the way?


Buddy, please don't get it twisted thinking that I get worked up over you. You would be mistaken.

Second, if you knew anything about this board and its posters, you would know that I'm one of the more peaceful posters with opposing fans. I love to discuss basketball and recruiting with all likes of fan bases. It's not that you're a KU fan that bugs me, its your posting. You didn't mention anything about it being an opinion when you said he was undecided and now would probably wait until Spring. I didn't see anything stating that that was just your opinion. Now, stating your opinion by saying you think KU still has a chance is fine. But you went off that route and started stating predictions like you knew something about his recruitment. If that's just your opinion, then just say so. I use IMO all the time. Trust me, it works well to make thing clear.
 
I can't argue with that. But I can argue that there is not a high demand for 5'8 point guards in the NBA who do not possess super athleticism, Ulis simply won't be able to defend NBA point guards. Briscoe is a ball dominant point guard as well, who can't shoot a consistent percentage at the college three, and won't be able at the longer NBA 3 and is not a lock down defender, nor does he possess ultra athleticism.


How the world do you know that Briscoe can not shoot well consistently from the college 3 pt line? How do you know that? We have played 2 exhibition games. Do you even know what his HS percentage was from three? You have continued to make this point against Briscoe for weeks and weeks but you have nothing to base it on. He may or may not shoot great from 3 in college but you have nothing to base it off of at this point. It's ridiculous to even say.

Plus, he is not going to be expected to shoot the 3 at the next level anyway. He is not a "pure shooter" and everyone knows that. That's not what his strengths are and not what he will be drafted to do. Don't see why that is such a major point to you. We have enough shooters that he won't be relied upon to be that threat in collge. I just don't get your point at all.
 
Listen....FOX to UK has been done for weeks...period! Not making it up either. The only thing we're waiting on is when & how he wants to announce.

Just unbelievable...that a KU fan thinks they're getting a recruit that even their homer insiders, who always think they're getting everyone, have all conceded Fox is coming to UK. Yet, you refuse to believe. [roll]
 
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Oh, the classic "troll" label. Grow up.

I've provided my opinion on the reasons why I think Kansas has a shot at Fox. You don't like my reasons, so you stomp your feet and call me a troll. I don't like your reasons he's going to Kentucky. "Because all the gurus say he's going to Kentucky?" All the gurus said Wiggins and Mudiay and Bridges, just to name three, were going to Kentucky and they didn't. Gurus pick Kentucky because of Cal's insane success at landing top talent, so more often then not, they will be right and can say they had "sources" when in reality, 99% of them have no clue where a kid is going because more often than not, their information is coming from sources that are not the kid himself.
You won't catch me defending the crystal ball type stuff regularly, but when the "gurus" are 100% unanimous on a kid, they do tend to be right.

And what you're saying just isn't true. Mudiay committed on the 24th of August. In July, everyone picked UK, but by midway through August (a couple weeks before the commitment as we are now with Fox), the predictions were split down the middle with momentum going towards SMU.

Everyone knew Bridges was going to MSU by the last month before the commitment. Not just the crystal ball guys - absolutely everybody. We had a plague of Spartan fans over here rubbing it in our faces.

And up until the last week or two, Wiggins was predicted to go to one school between UK/KU, with Randle going to the other, and nobody seemed to know which. Then the correct arrangement started to leak out a little bit right before the announcements.

Now it is true that Wiggins and Mudiay and Bridges were supposed to be "locks" for UK a year before they committed, but that's very obviously not analogous to this situation. He's said that he's choosing soon, and everybody knows where he's going.
 
It's not just this KU fan, I've been hearing from several of them who think they all of a sudden have a chance win Fox.

Don't see it happening, but I would like him to go ahead and announce
 
BOTTOM LINE:

Bill Self is the reason Cliff Alexander is NOT in the NBA right now.

Just some quick fact checking. Cliff Alexander is in the NBA. He is on the Portland Trailblazers roster but hasn't played yet this NBA season due to an injury. To be fair the Kansas fan is being incredibly dense but I do want the conversation to be factually accurate.
 
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The Fox recruitment isn't over in the same way last year's Kentucky/Kansas game wasn't over when we were up by a thousand. Sure, there's still time on the clock, but we're all embarrassed for you and you might as well start focusing on the next one.
 
The Fox recruitment isn't over in the same way last year's Kentucky/Kansas game wasn't over when we were up by a thousand. Sure, there's still time on the clock, but we're all embarrassed for you and you might as well start focusing on the next one.
I was at that one and even the KU fans knew it was over lol
 
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Oh, the classic "troll" label. Grow up.

I've provided my opinion on the reasons why I think Kansas has a shot at Fox. You don't like my reasons, so you stomp your feet and call me a troll. I don't like your reasons he's going to Kentucky. "Because all the gurus say he's going to Kentucky?" All the gurus said Wiggins and Mudiay and Bridges, just to name three, were going to Kentucky and they didn't. Gurus pick Kentucky because of Cal's insane success at landing top talent, so more often then not, they will be right and can say they had "sources" when in reality, 99% of them have no clue where a kid is going because more often than not, their information is coming from sources that are not the kid himself.

Just to clear the air here, really depends on during which time of the process you are selecting "all gurus said..." (which we never had 'ALL", might have had "most").

- All gurus did not say Wiggins to UK...there were a lot who said there was a buzz going around the KU pick, and a lot saying FSU, and others saying UK. UK was never the vast majority pick.

- A lot of gurus had picked Bridges to UK up until the last couple of weeks, then many switched to MSU.

- Mudiay...again you had a lot of people choosing SMU as he headed toward announcing.

Fox is completely different from that group...for starters, he's 100% crystal ball to UK which is extremely rare...add that to it staying 100% after BBM and the week of his announcement, and that's all you need to know.

So, respectfully, I'd say KU is out of the race.
 
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I dunno when KU was ever the frontrunner. It was always Texas, or Kentucky. Kansas, to this point, has never been the favorite to land Fox.
 
I wouldn't mind your posts as much if this was actually between UK and Kansas but it's not, everyone is saying Fox to ky. I don't see why it bothers you that much since your backcourt is returning next year anyway. It's KU's frontcourt you should be worried about.
 
Fox will be lucky to get 10 minutes with Frank Mason at the helm.

Ok, it was hard to type that and not laugh.
 
I just have to say this. Fox reminds me a lot of myself when I was his age. Other than him being a different color, left-handed, good shooter, penetrater, passer and leaper, it's like looking at a video of myself from 32 years ago.
 
BOTTOM LINE:

Bill Self is the reason Cliff Alexander is NOT in the NBA right now.
If Cliff would of come and played for Cal he would of been a Top 10 pick. Easy. That is not homer just the truth coming out.
Cliff Alexander is in the NBA and is on Portland's active roster though
 
Meanwhile... at the shiver.

Matt Scott tells the faithful that he would be beyond shocked if it's anyone but UK.

The flock respond disappointedly, saying that he would have been nice to bring off the bench backing up mason and graham.

You literally cannot make Kansas fans up........ they're like the corn fed cousins of Louisville fans.
 
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KU will likely have an open spot at the 5 and with some experienced guards around him he could be successful.

Definitely more of an opening for him at Kansas than at Duke or Kentucky. You guys are bringing in Gabriel and Killeya-Jones and will still have Humphries and Wynyard around. Maybe Marcus Lee as well. There's a bit more of an opportunity at Duke, but even at Duke, he'd be behind Giles as well as a sophomore Chase Jeter and would also have Javin DeLaurier battling for minutes as well. All Kansas will have is Carlton Bragg. Alabama is picking up steam in his recruitment if you believe in the 247 crystal ball.
 
I think Fox is coming to UK, but I will be so glad when he announces on Thursday. Such a huge piece for our class and another superstar we can watch in the NBA and cheer on for years to come! Join the family Fox - you are wanted and will be appreciated!
 
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