Ralph -- any more word on Monk signing in early period and confidence in UK?
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Ralph -- any more word on Monk signing in early period and confidence in UK?
Am I the only one who thinks Fox and Monk end up at KU? I just don't see the playing time available at Kentucky for them next year.
Yes it's just you
How do you figure? Murray is gone, at least one of Ulis and Briscoe is gone and maybe both. Kansas otoh has Mason, Graham, Vick, Seldon, Greene all back there is no room for either at KU lol wth are you smoking?
Agree that Murray is gone, but so probably is Selden at KU. Svi may head overseas. Kentucky will return Ulis, Briscoe, Matthews, Mulder, Willis, Hawkins and will likely add Simmons. Kind of crowded at both places, but less crowded at KU.
Why hasn't he committed? I think KU is a legitimate threat. He was a KU lean before Kentucky got involved.
KU fans overly hype all their second and third-tier talent, right up until the moment they're trying to make a case for why a five star stud should choose them.
Then they throw those same names to the wolves.
It is VERY likely that Ulis is gone. Briscoe is probably gone unless he really underperforms this year. Fox will never play behind Mulder, Hawkins or Willis. Sorry but your assessment is way off.
Giles was a done deal to Duke looooooong before he committed and everyone knew it. Same with Fox. He's not going to Kansas. Monk has a slightly better chance but they're still in 3rd.
Not comparable. Duke was always Giles's destination. KU was Fox's destination before Kentucky came in to play.
I won't convince you that Fox, or any other recruit, is not a lock for Kentucky. You are a pretty vocal cheerleader for your team. The true definition of a fan. I will ask that you answer my question. If Fox is such a lock, why hasn't he committed? Could it be he is torn between two choices?
Lol Man, get this guy out of here.... Everyone is saying Fox is a lock to UK but I guess you're the only one that has the inside source, huh?
Fox has long stated he wants to announce on his birthday, which is toward the end of December. Matt Jones and others have been pushing for a early signing period commitment, and Fox has recently said that would be the case. If for some reason he doesn't commit by November 18th, and then doesn't commit by his birthday in December, I would start to be concerned just a bit as a UK fan. I'd also take it as perhaps Fox wants to make sure that Ulis or Briscoe leave (wouldn't require both to leave). That said, I think he picks UK over the next ten days. We shall see.
Now I have a question for you - if Kansas misses on Fox and Monk, how do Jayhawk fans respond to Self, considering that would mean that he landed no top 20 prospects and would be an epic-level failure on the recruiting trail?
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Other teams fans never cease to amaze me.
Every year they say, "you guys will have X guys back, so you don't need such and such recruit."
Yet every year we have the majority of our players go to the NBA.
Some guys might come back, but based on recent history it is a safer bet to say that UK will lose most of their players than any other school.
So it's more likely that UK loses Ulis, Briscoe, and Murray than KU will lose Mason, Graham, and Selden.
Every year they say, "you guys will have X guys back, so you don't need such and such recruit."
Yet every year we have the majority of our players go to the NBA.
Some guys might come back, but based on recent history it is a safer bet to say that UK will lose most of their players than any other school.
So it's more likely that UK loses Ulis, Briscoe, and Murray than KU will lose Mason, Graham, and Selden.
If Kansas misses on Fox and Monk, we are still in it for Josh Jackson and recently offered Andrew Jones who is top 40.
To the poster who asked about my inside sources, who are yours? It's my opinion. KU was early leader, plays in his hometown conference, has playing time available, big stage, etc. And the consensus opinion of gurus is not 100%. Consensus is wrong quite often.
I can't argue with that. But I can argue that there is not a high demand for 5'8 point guards in the NBA who do not possess super athleticism, Ulis simply won't be able to defend NBA point guards. Briscoe is a ball dominant point guard as well, who can't shoot a consistent percentage at the college three, and won't be able at the longer NBA 3 and is not a lock down defender, nor does he possess ultra athleticism.
I wouldn't count on Jackson.
Jones sounds interesting, but if he's the best KU gets, I'd imagine you and some of you pals would be none-too-pleased with Self.
Matt Jones was saying yesterday he's hearing Monk might possibly announce and sign during the early period, so maybe Fox is waiting to announce the same day with Monk, which would be a very, very good sign in the case of Monk.
Partially true, but there's not a guru on the planet that's picking anything but uk for Fox. They talk to him, his coaches, his handlers, the coaches who are recruiting him etc. After his visit to Louisville, the Louisville guru switched his Fox prediction from Louisville to uk. The only thing you have to go in is that he was a Kansas lean before his dream school offered him a scholarship. Dude, don't get your hopes up.
It's wishful thinking. If you're going to clown around and be a homer, do it on your own board.
If you actually know something, by all means drop by and share. But you don't. And your act is getting old.
It would be a big shock if Fox chose KU. It would be as shocking as Giles choosing UK.
As for Monk, he has played everything close to the vest, so it would not shock me as much if he chose KU.
But conventional wisdom says its UK or Arkansas.
Keep up hope, KU fans, I know I keep hoping we will get Bam (though I know we won't), so I understand keeping the faith even when everyone says it can't be done.
As for Monk, he has played everything close to the vest, so it would not shock me as much if he chose KU.
But conventional wisdom says its UK or Arkansas.
Keep up hope, KU fans, I know I keep hoping we will get Bam (though I know we won't), so I understand keeping the faith even when everyone says it can't be done.
Monk should have chosen Kentucky at the end of the Arkansas-Ole Miss game. Not an Arkansas fan alive would have noticed.
If you're right, that means we get to keep Ulis and Briscoe for another year. I'll take that. Of course, we would probably get Fox too, soooooooo...yeah.
Gotta imagine Self pulled out all the stops with Fox. His best hope at this point is selling Monk one being a lead guard at Kansas.
There wouldn't be a team out there that would play UK straight up with Ulis, Fox, and Briscoe on the court together. Kentucky would see every kind of zone imaginable.
Fox/monk in the same back court is just scary for any opposing coach to have to game plan against, Fox can do literally everything at a high level and monk is just amazing to watch on the court with his scoring ability!!
This is a message board which is for basketball discussion and entertainment. I'm afraid, by this quoted post, you take it way too seriously. Lighten up. I'm sharing my opinion and said what my opinion is based on. As to wishful thinking, I would wager that 99% of the posters who are voicing their opinions have zero actual information. Recruiting gurus are also more times than not, basiing their opinions on hearsay, as most recruits keep things close to the vest.
I'm a Duke fan and think Fox is all but a lock for Kentucky. That's not the case with Monk, but Arkansas appears to be the team running second in that race. Maybe you guys get Andrew Jones, but I'd put Arizona and Texas in first and second at this moment in that race.
IMO the 5 star KU sits in the best position with is Marques Bolden.
All the arguments posted here are pretty valid. It's been a while since Self has struck out on all of his 5 star perimeter targets. I just don't see that happening this year.
Add Matthews as the second wing and Gabriel as the combo-forward, and UK would be lethal in the transition game. Humphries will entertain a lot of first round talk next year as our starting five man. If UK pulls in Allen as well to go with SKJ, it becomes a potential abundance of riches.
In a perfect scenario, those seven feature the main rotation, with Hawkins, Willis, Mulder, and Wynyard adding high-level supplemental help. If Cal somehow locked up Simmons as well (highly improbable if he gets Monk and Fox), the depth would be off the charts.
Yeah, it gets you real excited to think about how potentially good that team could be with the freshman and returning players, Matthews and Humphries sure are going to be treats next year!!!
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