Folks, Kenny Payne is playing for keeps

[Cardtaker]

Milt was not hired to coach. The position he took was an existing position not a new one. U6 has even said they expect to be able to recruit the kid but have to clear it through the NCAA. Kenny will claim he knew him since college and are lifelong friends. Which while true is bull. No one with a brain thinks this was a legit hire. If someone offered my grandpa a job because of me he would have told them to GTH.

Well, I am guessing your grandpa likely wasn't a 1,000 point scorer and a National Champion at the same place that hired him. Milt is qualified for the job. And Calipari had no issues hiring him as a bench coach when he needed to land DeJuan when Denny was in his final years....

 

[TNCatfanforever]

Him hiring Milt tells me he is going all out for DJ and does not give a crap about Cal or UK
No matter what we felt about him in the past he is at u of l and is the enemy now

When is the death penalty coming for Louisville

 

[rivercatinfl]

Milt was not hired to coach. The position he took was an existing position not a new one. U6 has even said they expect to be able to recruit the kid but have to clear it through the NCAA. Kenny will claim he knew him since college and are lifelong friends. Which while true is bull. No one with a brain thinks this was a legit hire. If someone offered my grandpa a job because of me he would have told them to GTH.

Therein lies the loophole.

 

[Ed323232]

Well, I am guessing your grandpa likely wasn't a 1,000 point scorer and a National Champion at the same place that hired him. Milt is qualified for the job. And Calipari had no issues hiring him as a bench coach when he needed to land DeJuan when Denny was in his final years....

He’s not being hired to coach. What makes him qualified for whatever he is going to do there?

 

[Ed323232]

Therein lies the loophole.

Oh I know they will make it look legit.

 

[kyhankypanky]

Did they change the rule? I thought hiring Milt to a non-coaching position made them not able to recruit DJ. The ironically named “Milt Wagner” rule for what Cal did at Memphis. Am I wrong? Has the rule been changed?

 

[Lamar Card]

Did they change the rule? I thought hiring Milt to a non-coaching position made them not able to recruit DJ. The ironically named “Milt Wagner” rule for what Cal did at Memphis. Am I wrong? Has the rule been changed?

Everything is cool, Milt was "grandfathered in".

 

[John_dromo1]

Didn’t take Payne long to slide down into the ul slop. Take shortcuts. Cheat. Try to Circumvent the rules. Disappointing

How is he cheating if the University is asking the NCAA first about the legalities of recruiting DJ Wagner?

 

[jace2012]

Cal needs to quit playing nice

Calipari said in the 30 for 30 that at Memphis he had to recruit in the grey area, UK it sells itself and he no longer has to recruit like that.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Calipari said in the 30 for 30 that at Memphis he had to recruit in the grey area, UK it sells itself and he no longer has to recruit like that.

That was 5 years ago. Try and keep up.

 

[EKYCard643]

Calipari said in the 30 for 30 that at Memphis he had to recruit in the grey area, UK it sells itself and he no longer has to recruit like that.

Here's the thing. He's right - but there's a caveat in modern recruiting.

John Calipari and the Kentucky name can go out and pull a top 5 class, without much effort. That's true. What's changed over the years since Cal got to Kentucky however is that he no longer has free range to pick his recruits a la carte off the menu and choose the best ones like he did earlier. There's competition and he can't just load up on all of the obvious John Walls and Anthony Davis' that need little to no college development. He has to evaluate and find the best fits of those elite recruits and he hasn't been very good at that as of late. He's also shifted focus to the portal a little more due to the Dukes and Arkansas, and Auburns taking some of the best kids.

Cal/UK are still elite recruiters - they just have to get better at evaluating and developing.

 

[billCgmx]

A player, a coach and an angry charlatan has-been photo bombing...

 

[rivercatinfl]

Here's the thing. He's right - but there's a caveat in modern recruiting.

John Calipari and the Kentucky name can go out and pull a top 5 class, without much effort. That's true. What's changed over the years since Cal got to Kentucky however is that he no longer has free range to pick his recruits a la carte off the menu and choose the best ones like he did earlier. There's competition and he can't just load up on all of the obvious John Walls and Anthony Davis' that need little to no college development. He has to evaluate and find the best fits of those elite recruits and he hasn't been very good at that as of late. He's also shifted focus to the portal a little more due to the Dukes and Arkansas, and Auburns taking some of the best kids.

Cal/UK are still elite recruiters - they just have to get better at evaluating and developing.

after 30 years you’d think would have figured out how to evaluate and develop players.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Everyone just going to forget Louisville is more than likely one of the last few schools about to get whacked by the ncaa? More than likely be on probation the one year Wagner may or may not play there. This move is a middle finger to the ncaa whom Louisville is already on the shit list of. May want to see how it all plays out prior to throwing in the towel on Wagner.

Lol when? Y'all have been saying this for years now.

 

[beasleythecard]

Maybe I missed it but I have not seen any quotes from Kenny wishing Cal or Uk the best

 

[Smashcat]

Him hiring Milt tells me he is going all out for DJ and does not give a crap about Cal or UK
No matter what we felt about him in the past he is at u of l and is the enemy now

How'd that turn out?

 

[CatPhight]

How'd that turn out?

 

[TankedCat]

uk78 said:
People here criticized me two years ago when I said Cal and our program should be grooming and promising Payne the head coaching job when Cal retired. Big mistake to have not done that. Plus, I am not feeling this will be Cal's last season.

--------------------

oooof

 

[YardCat]

uk78 said:
People here criticized me two years ago when I said Cal and our program should be grooming and promising Payne the head coaching job when Cal retired. Big mistake to have not done that. Plus, I am not feeling this will be Cal's last season.

--------------------

oooof

Well I think Kenny is in over his head.

 

[tmuck]

@EKYCard643
Has Kenny Payne as his profile picture! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[RipThru]

Well, I am guessing your grandpa likely wasn't a 1,000 point scorer and a National Champion at the same place that hired him. Milt is qualified for the job. And Calipari had no issues hiring him as a bench coach when he needed to land DeJuan when Denny was in his final years....

Where did you go ole son?

 

[fastpaste101]

if only Cal felt this way...

Agree. didn’t he used to burn villages?

 

[KMKAT]

Don't dislike KP, but he hasn't won a game yet as HC. Lots of really good assistants never make it as HC. Time will tell.

I had to repost this statement because it is just so relevant to today, Almost 9 months later….0-8 says it all.

 

[Cardtaker]

Where did you go ole son?

I am still here. Milt was still qualified. Plenty of people suck at jobs they are qualified for good sir.

 

[1Catmantoo]

He's being paid handsomely to do what's best for his employer and it's product - UofL basketball. And that is what he is doing. If only the UK coach was focused on the same things.

I see why your name is poop. So is your cheap shot about Cal.

 

[ck-2]

I’d rather have a coach with head coaching experience when a Cal leaves. Not the Stoops on the job training route.

 

[1Catmantoo]

He may be, but it sure as hell isn’t working.

 

[BGCATFAN2012]

I had to repost this statement because it is just so relevant to today, Almost 9 months later….0-8 says it all.

Well if he's playing for keeps.... it's looking like he's keeping all the losses, and someone else is keeping the wins...

 

[JwUKFan11]

Lol good call

 

[JC CATS]

uk78 said:
People here criticized me two years ago when I said Cal and our program should be grooming and promising Payne the head coaching job when Cal retired. Big mistake to have not done that. Plus, I am not feeling this will be Cal's last season.

--------------------

oooof

KP is showing, "he's not playing"

 

[doc4UK]

Duke is an example of an assistant taking over but it is far more common to find someone coaching at a lower level to take over the larger program. I think if Cal should leave after next year there is little question that the first call would go out to Brad Stevens.

 

[JwUKFan11]

Duke is an example of an assistant taking over but it is far more common to find someone coaching at a lower level to take over the larger program. I think if Cal should leave after next year there is little question that the first call would go out to Brad Stevens.

Brad Steven’s the president of Basketball operations for the Boston Celtics? LMAO. It’s hard to put into words how ignorant that is to suggest. His agent would laugh and just hang up.