Florida is the Class of the SEC this Century
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No joke. Like Duke winning would've been better or something.....
Or if Houston had won that somehow makes UF's run less "intimidating".
Wild Goblin ish tonight. Someone one call Lexington; tell them them to hang it up.
I hate doing double replies, but you REALLY think in your heart of hearts that TWENTY other schools, are going to outspend us....on.....checks notes....BASKETBALL.
Ok...
Yeah, I mean, honestly, yes, dude, have you been to a lot of these campuses lately and see the money flowing? It's just where things are at.
And that doesn't mean ish, even if what you were saying is true (it isn't).
You know who one of the biggest NIL's was this year? Hmmm?
IND-FREAKING-ANA
Guess where they were in the NCAAT?
That's right
THEY WEREN'T.
Yeah I didn’t say any of that. Simply talking straight data.
Truth is- one title in 26 years/ no final fours for going on 11 years. I like Pope and hope it happens but citing stuff from the 40s, 50s, 70s or 90s has no relevancy to anything of modern day with current players. Hell, if you’re an incoming college freshman, you weren’t even out of kindergarten when we last won with AD.
The sport is astronomically different now. We have no idea how it’s going to go in the portal/NIL for us or any of these teams who get new rosters every single year now. No one should have any expectations simply based on previous success from an era that doesn’t exist anymore.
And UF hadn't done much of anything in 18 years. When most of their players were still toddlers.
One title in 26 years. Who was coach for the majority of that? Could it be......Cal? So, you're blaming the lack of success on Cal? Cool. I agree.
"Cling to stuff from the 40's...." That's our history. Stuff from the 90's is MY history too. I'm not as young as I would like, but I'm not ancient either.
Goodness gracious.
Because it doesn't make Ky look bad if he did that
Saw this on linkedin this morning....
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Florida did not build its Final Four roster with promises of big NIL checks—instead, they used analytics to find the most "under-recruited" players in the country.
The No. 1–seeded Gators have spent the past few years putting together a scrappy roster of under-the-radar players, investing heavily in advanced analytics to discover them. And while all teams have access to analytics, the Gators believe they focus on different metrics than other teams—which often leads them to recruiting players who have gone overlooked.
The process for recruiting players goes something like this: First, the team uses a mix of analytics—often starting with KenPom statistics but also using a variety of numbers—to vet the player’s potential. Jonathan Safir, Florida’s director of basketball strategy and analytics, told FOS he believes the Gators focus on different stats than other teams, and that’s worked to their advantage. “We don’t ever look at counting stats,” he says. Instead, the team invests in other advanced metrics, like a player’s steal and block rate from a defensive end, for example.
Then, a player has to pass the “eye test” and finally visit Gainesville on a recruiting trip to see how he may mesh with the rest of the team, program, and community. Not every program relies so heavily on these visits.
As for NIL, there’s a preliminary conversation about the range of compensation a player would agree to—and if the numbers are too high, the player isn’t even considered. If the relationship is mutual, a player will sign. The program only wants players who are dedicated to Florida, rather than just looking for a paycheck.“
We’ve never gotten a single player because we’re the highest bidder,” Safir says. "We make sure our guys are taken care of financially, but it’s about so much more than that. We want guys with great attitudes, great work ethics, and guys who really want to be here.”
Now, that approach as the Gators playing for a national championship.
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Florida did not build its Final Four roster with promises of big NIL checks—instead, they used analytics to find the most "under-recruited" players in the country.
The No. 1–seeded Gators have spent the past few years putting together a scrappy roster of under-the-radar players, investing heavily in advanced analytics to discover them. And while all teams have access to analytics, the Gators believe they focus on different metrics than other teams—which often leads them to recruiting players who have gone overlooked.
The process for recruiting players goes something like this: First, the team uses a mix of analytics—often starting with KenPom statistics but also using a variety of numbers—to vet the player’s potential. Jonathan Safir, Florida’s director of basketball strategy and analytics, told FOS he believes the Gators focus on different stats than other teams, and that’s worked to their advantage. “We don’t ever look at counting stats,” he says. Instead, the team invests in other advanced metrics, like a player’s steal and block rate from a defensive end, for example.
Then, a player has to pass the “eye test” and finally visit Gainesville on a recruiting trip to see how he may mesh with the rest of the team, program, and community. Not every program relies so heavily on these visits.
As for NIL, there’s a preliminary conversation about the range of compensation a player would agree to—and if the numbers are too high, the player isn’t even considered. If the relationship is mutual, a player will sign. The program only wants players who are dedicated to Florida, rather than just looking for a paycheck.“
We’ve never gotten a single player because we’re the highest bidder,” Safir says. "We make sure our guys are taken care of financially, but it’s about so much more than that. We want guys with great attitudes, great work ethics, and guys who really want to be here.”
Now, that approach as the Gators playing for a national championship.
Agenda driven posters use to use 1985 as the “beginning” because that’s when the tourney went to 64 teams.
Or some use to use 1987 because that’s when the 3 point line came into play.
Some would start at 1990, I guess to make it a nice round number.
I guess now 2000 is the nice round number.
I guess basketball really didn’t exist in the 20th century. I mean they used real peach baskets back then, right?
Smh
Yeah, I just don't get the woe is us, Chicken Little, Sky is falling nonsense spewed on this board. The way some talk, we should just go ahead and ask to join the MAC or OVC, because obviously we just can't compete anymore.
We are still building our roster. We will probably still land another 2-3 guys from the portal to fill it out. Can anyone on here tell me who, on paper, has a better and deeper roster for next season in the SEC than we do as of today?
Pope is building a complete roster, with multiple options at each position. He wants depth and numbers. He's a rotation guy, that likes to go 9-10 deep. Do we want a roster with 2-3 "superstars" being paid $2-3 million each sucking up all the resources so the rest of the roster is full of $100K guys? or do we want a roster where the resources are spread out, 7-8 really good guys in the $1 to $1.5 million dollar range. I choose the latter. The superstar route causes discontent, when 3/4 of the team is envious of the 2-3 millionaires flashing their money and jewelry and acting entitled, Team Chemistry suffers. When you have the majority of your team in the same ballpark all making some decent coin, you get better chemistry and better team unity and a deeper bench. Just my two cents.
Sounds a lot like what I think Pope is doing as well.Saw this on linkedin this morning....
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Florida did not build its Final Four roster with promises of big NIL checks—instead, they used analytics to find the most "under-recruited" players in the country.
The No. 1–seeded Gators have spent the past few years putting together a scrappy roster of under-the-radar players, investing heavily in advanced analytics to discover them. And while all teams have access to analytics, the Gators believe they focus on different metrics than other teams—which often leads them to recruiting players who have gone overlooked.
The process for recruiting players goes something like this: First, the team uses a mix of analytics—often starting with KenPom statistics but also using a variety of numbers—to vet the player’s potential. Jonathan Safir, Florida’s director of basketball strategy and analytics, told FOS he believes the Gators focus on different stats than other teams, and that’s worked to their advantage. “We don’t ever look at counting stats,” he says. Instead, the team invests in other advanced metrics, like a player’s steal and block rate from a defensive end, for example.
Then, a player has to pass the “eye test” and finally visit Gainesville on a recruiting trip to see how he may mesh with the rest of the team, program, and community. Not every program relies so heavily on these visits.
As for NIL, there’s a preliminary conversation about the range of compensation a player would agree to—and if the numbers are too high, the player isn’t even considered. If the relationship is mutual, a player will sign. The program only wants players who are dedicated to Florida, rather than just looking for a paycheck.“
We’ve never gotten a single player because we’re the highest bidder,” Safir says. "We make sure our guys are taken care of financially, but it’s about so much more than that. We want guys with great attitudes, great work ethics, and guys who really want to be here.”
Now, that approach as the Gators playing for a national championship.
This makes it even worse. Florida winning titles without NIL; imagine if they start using NIL. Florida might win football too. I don't think even the most devout Gator fan saw this coming at the beginning of the year.
There really is no debate. Since 2000 the numbers are what they are. Uk has alot of ground to make up.
It’s not quite a perfect comparison but they’re kinda like the UConn of the SEC. Neither had a long history of winning big but they’ve racked up titles the past 26 years. Since UConn won their first title in 1999 they’ve missed the tournament completely 8 times. In that same time frame Florida has missed the tournament completely 6 times. On the other hand, in that time frame UConn has won 6 titles and Florida has won 3.
Florida isn’t quite at the level of all or nothing like UConn but it’s still crazy how many titles they’ve won in the last 26 years while also missing the tournament so much.
Florida isn’t quite at the level of all or nothing like UConn but it’s still crazy how many titles they’ve won in the last 26 years while also missing the tournament so much.
Supposedly they’ve already got their next AD picked for when Mitch leaves and it’s a woman who works with Mitch. It’s been said she operates just like Mitch. So basically we are screwed.
That next AD absolutely can not come from within the university and working with Mitch/doing things like him.
All of our major rivals have made up ground on us in titles. We are very lucky Duke didn’t add another this year. Thank god for Houston. If we don’t get our shit together then we are going to be in the 3-5 slot for titles. If we do then we lose our claim as the best CBB program of alltime. Especially if we lose the alltime wins lead as well.
This is why I was rooting against florida there in the final but….
This totally corresponds with Barney taking the reins as AD he has to go for uk bb to get back on track and we need a basketball motivated AD to return us. Barney has tried to run and hide from our basketball school image.
That would suck but I will say the president holding all this together has to retire soon and when he goes so will his good ole boy network. Who’s the woman? Did show go to UK? From Kentucky at least?
I have never heard that rumor and the 2nd in command in the athletic department is Marc Hill. If there was going to be an internal candidate, it would be Hill and not Rachel Baker, who I think you're talking about.
The next AD needs to be a guy like Ryan Alpert from UT.
And to the guy you responded with, no way Strickland leaves Florida for Kentucky. That would be a step backwards in terms of AD jobs.
Agree. UT ad was really creative and on the edge of nil while mitch kept his polo buttoned and hands in his pockets.
Agree, and Alpert is the guy leading the NIL/revenue charge at UT as White's right hand man. He's 37 years old, totally in tune with todays college athletics and creative as hell. He's the kind of guy you need in the new landscape of college athletics.
You would have to be sanitized if he told you, you're better off not knowing...
He best step up his recruitment of better athletes instead of spot up shooters. We saw two teams last night with athletes that are required to win. Houston had five players on the floor that could create their own shots off the dribble
The irony is some of those complaining we haven’t won a title in forever are the same ones that were holding onto Cal for dear life and trying to shame us when we said he should have been gone years before he was.
It still exists to UK fans, just not you. Every year there are kids saying UK is their dream school and would love to play for Kentucky. Now, I don’t blame them if the next school offers a million more or whatever. For most that’s life changing money.
It absolutely does not exist anymore. I don't know how you could even argue that college basketball is remotely like it was before. Complete roster turnover every year not just one and dones; building entire rosters of transfers every year. You do not have guys staying 3-4 years at the same school.
Hell, until last night, there were only four active coaches with national championships. It's a completely different time period and what we have been known as to all college recruits has been the NBA U brand under Cal. Different era and we have no idea how all of this goes. We're in unknown territory in this era where it's a crapshoot every year as we just saw a guy who had never even won a NCAA Tournament game before this year just win a national championship.
Take out 4 final fours in 5 years and 5 elite 8s in 6 years with new teams each year and we suck! We are so spoiled.
Do you think our current president Eli would go for something like that? I mean I think honestly a few more years and Mitch will probably be done he's been doing this since 2002. Well heck who knows we might have a new president ( he looks like he could retire before Mitch) before we have a new AD so who the heck really knows.
