Dook running 5-out motion offense, all three frosh forwards start
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Lol. Works great with elite shooters. With dook’s roster...we’ll see. Can’t wait to watch Marques Bolden try to channel Draymond.
Warriors could run any damn offense starting all-stars.
Who in the hell is gonna chase DeLaurier and Bolden on the perimeter? And he’d better hope Zion is a knock down shooter or he’s gonna see a lot of zone.
Even if he makes this offense work, it’s hard for me to believe it will be effective against UK so early. Also assuming he’ll be a zone defense again.
It's his final attempt to land recruits. He's about done folks.
They gonna get zoned all year. They'll struggle.
Pulls the other teams defense out and forces the C to defend on the perimeter. Folks like AD, Townes and KD kill it in this offense because they can shoot it from the outside.
Too slow to close out, they stroke it from 3, too fast and they head fake and take it to the hole. My 5th grade team runs this offense. Teaches them to play from what the defense is giving them and adjust.
They’ll get zoned and run their own iffy zone. Not a great recipe.
I will say this, I wouldn't mind Kentucky obviously with the right parts to run this offense. It's a hot offense everywhere and whether you run it or not it's attractive to all recruits.
Not just great shooters, but also great playmakers- as in guys who see the floor really well and make the extra pass. Pre-Durant, Golden State launched into orbit when Draymond Green became a starter and they realized he gave them a second option to initiate their offense. His versatility meant they could ALWAYS find a mismatch.
It's smart for Duke to try this (although honestly, I don't think they have any other choice), but it's very dicey when you're talking about trying it with 19 year olds. The shooting isn't like Golden State, the passing won't be like Golden State, and it's a lot easier for college defenses to just pack it in and dare you to hit shots. To use a college comparison, who is Jalen Brunson, who is Mychal Bridges, and who is Omari Spellman for Duke?
Good luck running a high pick and roll against a zone where all 5 defenders are within 18 feet of the basket.
No way this works with their roster. Just pack the paint and force them to shoot over you.
Won’t work unless Alex is starting. Not sure why he mentioned JD and perimeter in the same sentence. His game is similar to Marcus Lee for those who have never seen him, would anyone say Marcus is a perimeter player? That would be the equivalent.
The 5 put might be their best chance because they don’t have a post offensive option. Zion is elite but he’s a face up player and the other good players are Wings
The 5 put might be their best chance because they don’t have a post offensive option. Zion is elite but he’s a face up player and the other good players are Wings
I like the move. I think they'll still wind up with a bunch of ISO's but this is what kids, and the NBA, both want.
I hope we do something similar very soon.
I hope we do something similar very soon.
I’ll believe it when they play it against us... this could all be a ploy to get us to prepare for a false offense.
The NBA has a 5 second DEFENSIVE call in the paint. College does not.
No zone in the NBA because of this.
Pack the paint.
Good luck shooting 25+ 3's a game. Better hope 10-12 fall.
No zone in the NBA because of this.
Pack the paint.
Good luck shooting 25+ 3's a game. Better hope 10-12 fall.
Yeah there’s a lot more to the Golden State offense than shooting three pointers, and Duke won’t even be able to do that part. It takes 5 guys willing to set screens, 5 guys who can pass, and 4 or 5 guys who can shoot threes and oh hey it wouldn’t hurt if 1 or 2 of them can hit routinely from 27-30 ft.
And that’s not even to mention the defense.
And that’s not even to mention the defense.
I see pukes 3 point makes coming to an end in the near future. They have reddish that can shoot, that’s about it
Many teams will need to zone...unless certain teams can play a man to man and switch out regularly with little drop off in defense or scoring... can you say deep breathing the second half...maybe the first half...
Oh, he "ain't" here anymore...
True. Alex O'Connell will make some shots against weaker opponents but would be a liability against excellent teams.
UK by 12 when we meet.
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Running the GSW offense don't make you the GSW.....![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
What it really tells me is that he is not very confident in his PG or C so he is trying to hide them
Bet we'll see Golden State run more 4 out, 1 in with Boogie in the fold.
They now have the weapons to play any style they want. Dominant guards/wings and arguably the best big man in the league.
They now have the weapons to play any style they want. Dominant guards/wings and arguably the best big man in the league.
Probably their best 5-out motion lineup:
Jones
O'Connell
Barrett
Reddish
Williamson
They will try to score in transition, make it an up and down game. Most teams will attempt to slow them down with a zone and pound them inside. Williamson will give up a lot of size in the post. Once again, K plays the 2/3 zone to try to protect his guys from foul trouble.
Jones
O'Connell
Barrett
Reddish
Williamson
They will try to score in transition, make it an up and down game. Most teams will attempt to slow them down with a zone and pound them inside. Williamson will give up a lot of size in the post. Once again, K plays the 2/3 zone to try to protect his guys from foul trouble.
Everyone keeps talking about the Duke big 3. Like people have with Quickley(best PG on our roster), they are forgetting the most important piece to winning the National title which is the PG. If Tre Jones(I believe he's more rounded than Tyus) plays even half as good as his brother did his freshmen season they will be a top 5 team the entire season.
Duke/UK is 3 weeks is going to be a war and not some one-sided mismatch.
Duke/UK is 3 weeks is going to be a war and not some one-sided mismatch.
Preparing them for the NBA, or showing why they shouldn't be drafted high, by drawing attention to their deficiencies? I could see Zion being thought of as a top 3-4 draft choice in 2019, only to drop to 15 or so, once he gets stuck out on the perimeter and shows he is really a 6'6" post player.
After seeing how much more skilled he is than I thought, I think Zion will be a top pick and probably has Draymond Green potential.
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