Then, why did you “like” the post if you did not understand it? I think you were actually responding to the post I was responding to.
Does Neal Brown's success at Troy have any impact on Stoops at UK?
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Then, why did you “like” the post if you did not understand it? I think you were actually responding to the post I was responding to.
If we were to go 4-8 It has everything to do with it.
My reply was to a comment about 2019's team after seniors graduate, Benny leaves, etc.
Anywhere. A coach inherits a mess and goes 2, 5, 5, 7, 7 and a 4 win season places him on the hot seat for the next year.
I don't disagree. Development and discipline seem to be the biggest issue. I was arguing that personnel isn't hopeless situation.
I think our losing culture will be hard to change. It's like a cancer that just won't go away. Coach needs to run a tight ship, no more Marcus Walkers, no lazy potential superstars (Boom, Westry) that don't develop at the pace they should, and all the other back-talking and social media crap. I feel like we've always displayed our minimal potential on the field, with the exception of a few games.
Given the returning talent he has, most of the SEC would-he’s had plenty of time to put together a roster and staff to not go backwards-even middle of the road P5 schools would part ways. Our expectations are too low IMO.
Still arguing for the sake of arguing I see. Stoops wouldn’t be a senior member of the SEC if our SEC brethren accepted mediocrity.
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Ask any coach in the sec if Stoops is doing a good job they all will say yes. If you fire a coach that's had any success at a school like UK after 1 mediocre season and good luck finding a coach in the future. You cannot compare every sec team equally. What is considered successful here will not work other schools.
Nebraska is not an AD. I know people want to take Stoops out of the Kentucky context and act like a 4-8 at UK might get him fired, but I just don't think any AD would do that. It would be a notable backslide and he would need to prove himself the following year. Two years like that and he would likely get fired.
If Stoops was at Nebraska, 4-8 may get him fired, even after coming off a 9 win season. But, Riley did not enter the history of UK and the dumpster fire at UK when he took the Nebraska job. I just don't think any AD at UK is going to pretend they are at Bama or Nebraska or Michigan.
I don't think Stoops is going to go 4-8, so this discussion is about as silly as it gets, which was kind of my point about the buyout criticism in June. But, should he go 4-8, I don't see him getting fired.
Now, why not talk about what happens if he wins 9-10 games?
If we some how pull off 9 10 wins I gotta believe recruiting explodes.
I was referring to Tom Leach
Of course they would say that. They all wailed and gnashed their teeth when Joker was given his release. We might actually hire good coach. ( hey even a blind squirrel stumbles across an acorn now and then. I gotta hope Barney is smarter than a blind squirrel. Right? RIGHT?!?! )
Yea comparing Joker to a guy who took a Mac level roster and won games that makes sense. No comparison between Stoops and Joker.
Billy Jack Haskins transferred to URI, But to me he was as Kentucky is Kentucky is
Just stop, no program, with the exception of the elites, would have Stoops on the hotseat this year. NONE. It's dumb to say and it's even dumber to say "expectations are too low", anyone with a brain realizes that UK has to build a brand and tradition in football before we start saying that consecutive winning records is unacceptable.
You apparently have low expectations-you’re part of the problem. Had fans demanded more many years ago this wouldn’t be a problem now. Time to deliver; no more excuses-his team, his staff. Put a product on the field that’s worthy of his top 25 salary.
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Some on here will want to shy away from this expectation for some reason.
It has reached the point and time see if Coach Stoops has the goods in year six to lead a team to greater success with senior leadership, experience and depth that he has recruited.
The foundation has been being built and laid for this type of season and it is time too see the outcome.
As Coach Stoops himself has stated for this year, “It’s time to get the players from good to great” and we will see if he is capable and successful of doing that.
That will not only be telling for this year but obviously for the future as well with him in charge. So there is a lot riding on his and the teams performance for this year.
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We have several on here who are good with mediocrity. This is Stoops year to show us if Barney truly f’d up with that one sided contract.
I believe the recruiting is about as good as it's going to get with Stoops, which I believe is good enough to win at a higher level than 7-6.
It's time now to find out if Stoops is able to coach that talent.
It's time now to find out if Stoops is able to coach that talent.
A bunch of coaches get lesser talent and coach them up to top 25 level. We should expect this as a minimum.
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How much more time? It shouldn't take a lot of time to learn to cover a WR!
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We keep talking about talent. We lost three games last year, not because of a lack of talent, but poor coaching mistakes. We have the talent coming back this year to win 8 or 9 games, but our coaches, especially the HC, must not make the mistakes he made last year.
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If Stoops goes 4-8 other issues will be found. There will be plenty of folks checking to see if there is a clause violation somewhere to reduce payout. Some of our previous coaching contracts make me hesitant to say this, but I think UK should be clear on past buyouts. IF assistants and coordinators had buyout clauses.
I don't think Stoops success at UK has anything to do with Brown's success at Troy, is that what you were trying to say?
LOL
How do you judge recruiting? Rivals has never had a Stoops’ class ranked above 9th (once in 2014) in the SEC. I think he has been 10th twice. Average is about 11. Seems, by that standard, he has eclipsed expectations when it comes to excelling with recruits.
How well does Robcat assess Stoops’ recruiting? Have you done a deeper dive than Rivals?
And, by the way-I’m not saying he has to increase the number of wins, just put a team on the field that looks, acts and plays like we belong in the SEC.
Good point and that is not too much to ask. Just look like a football team that belongs and is ready for each snap.
Just come out and answer the question. Do you or do you not have confidence in Mark Stoops?
