I actually think his contract extension this week makes it more likely he does. I wasnt sure he would stay beyond 7-8 years. If he really is here another 6-7 years I think it happens. Just one more. Thats all I want! Is that too much to ask?
Does Cal win another title?
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I know how intelligent you are, so I am not sure why you are dismissing one big issue.
Look at the idiots here that hate Cal and the players for losing a title game or for going undefeated and being upset in the FF, etc.
And you want to recruit a year with 2-3 OADS and 3 kids who are not very good?
You think its hard playing 5-6 great kids and you want to cut that to 3 great ones and 3 bad ones?
That season will suck. The next year you recruit a couple more OAD's and 3 sucky kids and still have 3 sucky kids with one year of experience...
Cal gets these OAD's to play with other great kids, not crappy ones in hopes that in 4 years they might become good players, and the OADS are just fine helping build a "foundation" and not winning. The OAD's will not be very impressed with that strategy.
There is no appeasing this fanbase and there is no perfect solution. You always recruit the best talent you can.
Well, first, I don't make the assumption that they "suck". I realize the position it would put us in though. That's why I said Cal can't change now. We are in for a penny, in for a pound. I will root for them every year and hope I'm wrong every year. There is nothing I can do other than that. But I will voice my position now and then.
Who knows? We could get hot and win four in one decade like Uconn. Someone on here said they thought the Wisky game took a lot out of Cal. I don't know, but it took a lot out of me.
The FIVE STAR O & D PLAYED NO BETTER THAN WILLIS, OR MULDER, WELL MAYBE THE LATER??
No, but 348 other teams in the country are doing everything in their power to win with some combination of experience and raw talent - some get closer to your model than others (Kansas, Arizona, UCLA, Ohio State, Florida under Donovan, Memphis, Texas under Barnes, Washington, etc) but exactly zero of them have the results that Cal has had.
Your argument about the four F4 teams being senior-laden... imagine you have 350 riflemen aiming at a target 100 meters away. Two are marine snipers and 348 are Jimbo and his buddies from out by the creek pulling out the old 30-06 from the shed. Now, to be fair to you, I'll throw out about 200 of those, because their rifles are old and crusty (bottom feeder conferences and the weaker mid-majors who don't have a hope of making the tourney).
They open fire, and using a video camera shooting at 40k fps, you track the trajectory of the 150 bullets that are firing from guns that don't totally suck, and after 8 rounds of this, you realize that the snipers are essentially always in the bulls-eye, and are never more than an inch or two away from dead center. But given the blanket of fire that occurs every round, more often than not, there are somewhere from 1-8 bullets closer to the very middle than your two snipers. Regardless, 3 of the 8 times, one of your snipers was closest to the center, and one of them is virtually always among the very tightest grouping of four in the middle.
BigBlueFanGA's conclusion? Damn - those snipers had better change it up. Wouldn't want my life in their hands.
And why am I being a jackass? Do you do entrust your money with irrational people?
Suck is a relative term depending on the comparison - how good was the Top 20 player you said no to for the Top 125 kid...
I'm never against you voicing your opinion, as you always debate as a gentleman with me.
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I'll take K's 2 titles over Cal's 1 every single day. The Final Fours, Elite 8's and all the other excuses don't mean a thing to me. Getting so close so many times only to lose just makes it worst.
We are the Buffalo Bills of the NCAA except we lucked into atleast 1 title.
The FIVE STAR O & D PLAYED NO BETTER THAN WILLIS, OR MULDER, WELL MAYBE THE LATER??
I agree, I see no difference in Derek vs Fox (39 vs UCLA), Monk (47 vs UNC), (Bam double -double)...
One of the few posters who is glad that UMM is here to take the spotlight...
I can't give you specific examples and I don't want to take the time to research it. I think you know there is some validity to my approach though.
1. Worst?
2. We are the exact same as another team that has never won a championship, except we have...
I take it you haven't stopped drinking even though the game is over...?
So one of the best 4-5 runs in history does not satisfy you because the arguable greatest coach got 2 titles out of a similar situation. Okay.
In that case, you'd genuinely be a happier fan under Izzo, going to a final four every 5 years with more four year players? If not Izzo, then who?
Nope, still disagree.
We need find a way to keep the ones who have no business leaving early, this would be the optimal approach for me.
Yes--and if you keep putting your program in position--eventually the ball falls your way/calls go your way, etc....just gotta keep fighting and that's Cal's specialty. I actually think it could be the '19 season due a lot of the incoming class needing to stay 2-3 years and if you get right incoming players--but who knows--maybe they surprise everyone or get a good draw (yeah right--that was disgusting to put UK, UNC, and UCLA in same region--absolutely AWFUL)
Again this comes from subtlety changing slightly some recruiting. He tried it with Booker but he blew up too soon. Maybe SKJ or Hump will stay enough.
I usually disagree with everything you say because it's pretty obvious you aren't a fan of Cal and take every opportunity to bash him, but I do agree about the fact that year after year, on top of the obvious lottery picks who leave, we lose the guys who have no business leaving as well. Gabriel will be the perfect example of that this year. I'm sure he'll test the waters and drag it out, but it just seems like wearing the Kentucky jersey automatically improves a kids draft stock and he leaves when we all know he'll be in the d-league 4 months later. It just doesn't make sense. The mentality seems to be that they've failed if they have to return to school for another year. With that in mind, I love Calipari and don't want any other coach here, I just wish some dudes who aren't obvious lottery picks would stick around a little longer.
Would be interesting and ironic--Cal's NINTH season at UK, chance to play in Nashville and Atlanta before San Antonio--sight of UK winning #7 20 years earlier? Why not!
I think the best answer to this problem is convincing at least 1 of the kids to stay another year every year.
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It seems as if a lot of fans don't understand just how hard it is to win the title. Dean Smith only won two and one was by pure luck. Bob Knight won three and he was at IU forever. Both of these coaches also had failures with their some of their best teams and sometimes it takes some luck to even be in position to win. Cal will win another title, just a matter of time.
Granted but that will never happen. Cal sells the quick trip. One way or another, we have to have some experienced talent even if it isn't top 20 talent.
Dakari would have been big for last year's squad.
Booker was a surprise on the level of Bledsoe - i'd have tried to keep both but it would have obviously been the wrong decision.
Teague, Lamb, Twins, Briscoe?
No need for 4 year kids if these types stay until they are draft ready.
Got more size in the class coming in. Other than Bam we weren't that big
this season.
Agreed and that's where the problem lies. These are the type of kids that need to stay around for awhile.
Truth be told, only Bam and Fox are really ready for the draft. Every other player needs another year of school, including Monk.
Monk can fix his issues with the daily work on the NBA level much easier than another college season. He has the "it" factor.
Briscoe, Hump, Wenyen - no reason whatsoever for them to consider leaving.
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