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Could Poythress comeback??

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If he wanted to comeback can or did he try to get a medical redshirt? Can't remember if he played too many games. Not sure if he would want to come back or not and be here for 5 years. But hopefully he will have a good year and not have to.
 
Only played 8 games, it is my understanding that he would be eligible for a medical redshirt.
 
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No. He played too many games.

He most certainly did not. Well discussed last season.

Poythress played 8 games out of 39 winch is 20.5% of the games. The NCAA limit for medical hardship is 30%.

Also has to happen in first half of season and prevent student from competing remainder of season.

Therefore Poythress is eligible to apply for 5th year if he chooses.
 
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Alex will be a beast NEXT year...





It's like discussing our football team...



The future always has good things in store, maybe one day we will see them... :(
 
Alex was a beast last year.


Those 8 games he averaged 5 points and 3 rebounds?

He was great defensively, but his lack of ball handling and offensive creation is still lacking.

I can see a rim protector being a "beast" AD, Noel, etc.

But I wouldnt necessarily refer to a wing defender as a "beast" because of his one on one defense alone.

The potential is there to do so much more, and I really hope he does. As of now, Alex takes me back to Master Blaster.
 
Those 8 games he averaged 5 points and 3 rebounds?

He was great defensively, but his lack of ball handling and offensive creation is still lacking.

I can see a rim protector being a "beast" AD, Noel, etc.

But I wouldnt necessarily refer to a wing defender as a "beast" because of his one on one defense alone.

The potential is there to do so much more, and I really hope he does. As of now, Alex takes me back to Master Blaster.
Ouch! But did you know RM could throw a 90 mph fastball? :grimace:
 
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Ouch! But did you know RM could throw a 90 mph fastball? :grimace:



It came across worse than I had intended.

Madison killed me, like Alex does now.

I have had a few of these:

Derek Hord
Brett Bearup
Madison
LeRon Ellis
Rhodes
Prickett
Myron Anthony
Carruth
Barbour
Azubuike
 
Alex needs to fix his motor imo. All the potential in the world does no good if you take plays off. We need him to fire up and stay up.
 
It came across worse than I had intended.

Madison killed me, like Alex does now.

I have had a few of these:

Derek Hord
Brett Bearup
Madison
LeRon Ellis
Rhodes
Prickett
Myron Anthony
Carruth
Barbour
Azubuike

'Buike was 30 points shy of 1000 points in only 3 seasons....and under Tubby, no less

Not sure he should be included on your list
 
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I don't see Alex considering it for the simple reason that he has his diploma. In effect, I believe, he's a graduate student now.

Alex has to have an amazing year this year - if he doesn't, his draft stock won't go any higher. Just my opinion.
 
If he returns for next year, that is bad news! It would mean he had a very dissappointing season and thought he blew his chance at making an NBA team.
As others have stated, he is eligible to apply for the medical redshirt. I don't think he has to apply now, he can wait. And I doubt he has applied yet, I'm sure he plans this to be his last year in Lexington.

ps: Those who simply look at stats (5ppg 3rpg) are ignorant. They don't take into consideration the minutes played per game, the offensive options around a player when he is on the court, how he performed vs good competition, how he performed as compared to what he was being asked to do, as well as how limited the sample size might be.
 
Alex has to have an amazing year this year - if he doesn't, his draft stock won't go any higher. Just my opinion.

Well, it can't really drop any further. Poy's pretty much fallen completely out of the mock drafts after originally being projected as a high lottery pick at the start of his freshman year. That "Kentucky effect" has not done Poy any favors.

A hell of a physical specimen, and a good kid, but he's just never developed the ball skills needed to be what he was once supposed to become. And, if a guy hasn't developed those skills after three years here then they're probably not gonna magically appear his senior year.

It is good, though, that he'll finally get to play an entire season at his natural PF position. In the past our roster situation has forced him to spend too much time at the 3 spot, where he just looked SO uncomfortable. That factor alone should help him look better this year.

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This thread is encouraging in one respect.....at least current Rupp Rafters posters understand the redshirting rules. I remember a number of threads during the Tubby years in which there were long debates about the redshirting rules.

Even after the rules were posted and explained, posters would still say that Ramon Harris, for example, could receive a regular redshirt after he played in several games. My favorite thread was one in which Tubby had said on TV that he was considering redshirting Harris after playing him in a game or two and a number of posters refused to accept the rules because "Tubby knew more than some anonymous chat board posters" about what the rules were. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
The question as I read it was "could he come back". The short answer is no as they didn't apply for a redshirt for him even though they could have. They think I do not know is if you can retroactively apply if he wanted to. Other than that, I don't believe he wants to come back and not take his shot at earning a living unless he wants to finish grad school first....which is possible but I doubt it.
 
Those 8 games he averaged 5 points and 3 rebounds?

He was great defensively, but his lack of ball handling and offensive creation is still lacking.

I can see a rim protector being a "beast" AD, Noel, etc.

But I wouldnt necessarily refer to a wing defender as a "beast" because of his one on one defense alone.

The potential is there to do so much more, and I really hope he does. As of now, Alex takes me back to Master Blaster.

He also played at the small forward spot last year, and he is not a small forward. As you mentioned, he doesn't handle the ball well or create on offense. He may have trouble playing PF in the NBA, but that's his position.
 
The question as I read it was "could he come back". The short answer is no as they didn't apply for a redshirt for him even though they could have. They think I do not know is if you can retroactively apply if he wanted to. Other than that, I don't believe he wants to come back and not take his shot at earning a living unless he wants to finish grad school first....which is possible but I doubt it.

Wrong. The standard procedure is to apply for the extra medical RS year when your normal eligibility expires, even if based on an injury in a prior season. There's no need to apply at the time of injury.

So the answer to the question is: Yes, he "could" likely come back IF he wants to. But he probably won't (at least that seems to be the prevailing opinion).
 
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Wrong. The standard procedure is to apply for the extra medical RS year when your eligibility expires, even if it's based on an injury in a prior season. There's no need to apply at the time of injury.

So the answer to the question is: Yes, he "could" likely come back IF he wants to. But he probably won't (at least that seems to be the prevailing opinion).

Ah I did not know that thanks.
 
He also played at the small forward spot last year, and he is not a small forward. As you mentioned, he doesn't handle the ball well or create on offense. He may have trouble playing PF in the NBA, but that's his position.


Totally agree.

But imo, Alex is not a 'beast" yet. Unless we have official defined "beast" as Matt Pilgrimesque.


I am also of the opinion that he could become a beast, even without the offensive skills he will obviously not acquire here at UK this final season.

If he can be one of the nation's top rebounders, then he will definitely reach that level in my eyes.

Hoping he does.
 
The question as I read it was "could he come back". The short answer is no as they didn't apply for a redshirt for him even though they could have. They think I do not know is if you can retroactively apply if he wanted to. Other than that, I don't believe he wants to come back and not take his shot at earning a living unless he wants to finish grad school first....which is possible but I doubt it.

Are you sure about this. I thought my the rule was the student applies for a medical hardship waiver after your regular eligibility is exhausted. Which means he can apply this year if that is what he wanted to do.
 
Last year I made an outlandish prediction.

It was that POY would redshirt, get his masters in accounting, leave UK a legend, try out the NBA, and then, when his career in basketball has gone, he returns to LEX and opens an accounting firm and wins all the local biz.

It's a solid plan and would work. Get at it, PoY.
 
Are you sure about this. I thought my the rule was the student applies for a medical hardship waiver after your regular eligibility is exhausted. Which means he can apply this year if that is what he wanted to do.


I am pretty sure he is correct.

I havent seen a time requirement for filing. Medical Hardship is NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4


Requirements are physician documents and games not played.
 
If he plays a full season, he's got his degree and proved everything he can. It would make zero sense to return.

The ONLY reason I could see for him to return is if he is advised that he needs another year to rehab and prove himself. Yeah, that is a 100 to 1 longshot but it is about the ONLY thing that would make sense. Having said that, I would be willing to bet that he is gone at the end of the season.
 
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If he plays a full season, he's got his degree and proved everything he can. It would make zero sense to return.


Well, many fans would like to see him back if his NBA aspirations are not where he wants them... selfish I know.
 
If he plays a full season, he's got his degree and proved everything he can. It would make zero sense to return.

I pretty much agree. Even if he wouldn't get drafted, if he wants to play pro ball it's time to get out there in the d league and try to work his way up. But I think he's a second round pick (which can be worse than going undrafted).
 
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So I looked up the rules on medical redshirt, and while we all assumed that Poythress qualified, I'm now not so sure.


I pretty much agree. Even if he wouldn't get drafted, if he wants to play pro ball it's time to get out there in the d league and try to work his way up. But I think he's a second round pick (which can be worse than going undrafted).
So tell us why you aren't so sure?
 
He wouldn't even if he could. He's already got his degree. Another year of college really wouldn't serve him much purpose.
 
If you didn't know the rule why did you give a definitive answer?

Well if you read my answer it is correct and definitive. I said no he can't as he hasn't applied for a redshirt. I also said that I didn't know if there was a time limit to do so. I stick by my statement. The next guy stated you can do it later....the part I said I didn't know about. what don't you understand? I thanked him for letting me know the part I didn't know. Are you just trying to be a dic& or didn't read my statement?
 
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So tell us why you aren't so sure?

Haha crap, I typed that out, closed it out, and came to type a new reply and it had saved that part. I had been confused reading rules because D2 has a max of 20% of the games played. Apparently they're just different, I found the D1 rule at 30% and thought I'd deleted it.
 
Haha crap, I typed that out, closed it out, and came to type a new reply and it had saved that part. I had been confused reading rules because D2 has a max of 20% of the games played. Apparently they're just different, I found the D1 rule at 30% and thought I'd deleted it.
I wondered if something like that happened since you had part of response above and below the quote.
 
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