Scheyers issue is gonna be the same that has plagued cal. In crunch time is he a good X’s and O’s Coach or a motivator and does duke have a coach on staff that is good at drawing up sets
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Agreed. That definitely remains to be seen. And I think you need at least 4-5 seasons to really make that judgement.
My hope is with UK, cal lets Welch be the offensive guy given his nba background and offensive background
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Personally.. I don't believe any of these actually go "back and forth".. Flagg knows where he's going.
Probably. With Duke recruitments they like to mess with the other schools when they know they are getting somebody
Cooper flagg is getting all this hype and I wouldn't be if it's surprised if he turns out to be a career 15 and 5 guy.
I get the Duke hate, I hate them to, but Flagg is the real deal, I would be shocked if he isn’t a star
How anyone ever looked at him and thought he’d go anywhere but duke is beyond me. Plus add in the Nike machine behind him pushing him to duke and that’s the end of it. Lol at anyone that ever thought it was UConn
If Duke or any school can get the Boozer twins to reclass , that would be one hell of a get. A guarantee of 2 years due to the NBA age limit
We'll see. I heard the same stuff about Jabari Parker, RJ Barrett and Jahlil Okafor.
Yea all the predictions and expectations shifted Flagg to Duke. I am on the belief that Flagg probably gave Duke a silent commit during his unofficial visit. During this past weekend they brought in edgcombe and Ngongba along with their commits of Harris, Evans and Kon and and probably sold the group on what their 2024 team will look like.
All of those guys dominated college basketball, and flamed out in the NBA. Idk about you but I’m here for CBB.
If Flagg going to Duke means we get the Boozer twins…I think I’m okay with that.
He's always been Duke's. It's their standard MO.
But that’s the old thing, from what’s being reported, the twins aren’t going to reclassify so copper going to Duke won’t affect their recruitment.
wait 4 to 5 seasons to tell if scheyer can coach. He'll have either the 1st or 2nd recruiting class over that time span. What would a success look like.
Nah. Duke will get them all.
People said if Duke landed Reddish, UK would get Barrett. Then when Barrett chose Duke as well, folks said that negated them for Zion.
All three picked Duke.
Duke landed Williams and Duhon at the same time. Duke lands who they want to land. Recruiting guys at the same positions has not stopped them from landing same positional guys before, and it won't stop them now.
It was said----Hurley had on;y been past the 2nd round once in his 13 years. I simply pointed out Cal had only been past the 2nd round 3x's in his first 13 as well.Cal made the tournament by his 4th season at UMASS. Also took then to an E* and F4. Was hired by the NBA. Then went to Memphis and turned them around. Then did the same at UK.
Prior to this year, what did Hurley accomplish?
Who's record you like best?
Also, lets look at the schools each started...
Hurley at Wagner, Rhode island and now UConn..
Cal at UMass, Memhis and UK..
I'd say Cal's had a tad more respources than Hurley did at Wagner and Rhode Island.
With that being said, no I dont think Hurley is better....But he wouldnt be a bad replacement either.
Cal’s rebuild at Umass is one of the greatest of all time. This is a horrible comparison.
Umass was nothing before him. They had only been to the tournament one time in the 60’s. Had never won a tournament game before him. And he took them to the final four and made the tourney and won at least one game in his last 5 seasons.
Wagner might be a comparable job but Hurley was only there 2 seasons before moving onto Rhode Island which is a much better job. In 6 seasons at rhode island hurley never made it past the 2nd round and never won more than 26 games.
Dan Hurley is 50 years old. He is 8-4 in the ncaa tournament.
By the time Cal was 50 he was…25-12 with a final four and a runner up at Umass and Memphis. Rhode Island > Umass. Uconn > Memphis.
Would i take Hurley over Cal right now? Ofcourse. Are there more intrigueing coaching prospects out there than Hurley? Several. He’s had 1 stand out season in 13.
By year 13 Cal had a final four, an E8, 2 30 win seasons AT UMASS, and by 50 he had turned both Umass and Memphis into perennial power houses.
Cal’s first 13 seasons were just way more impressive. And i’m not even a Cal stan like that. I wanted us to move on from him 5 years ago. But at 50 years old he was wayyyy more accomplished than Hurley.
No, you actually said Cal had missed the tournament 6 times in his first 13 years, but you neglected to tell the full scope, so I happily provided it for you. One had a significantly better first 13 years.l, and it wasn't Hurley.
What resources did Memphis and Umass have that were better?
At this point, he wouldn't be great choice for UK. Now, for IU, he might look pretty good. IU can have him if he becomes available. I will wait and see if he just caught lightening in a bottle last season or if there is more.
I compared the two...That is all, brother. What FULL scope was there(needed)? I pointed out he made it past the 2nd round 3X's. I did not realize I needed to post his entire resume; Question wasn't comparing resumes---It was in terms of "Hurley and his first 13 seasons..---Didnt know I needed to post Cals entire career. Not a shot at Cal---Just a compariosn of Cal's first 13, and Hurleys only 13..
If Memphis and Umass did not have better resources than Rhode Island and fukin Wagner, well..............
Never implied he(Cal) was not....Just compared the time frame.
That is all.
What Cal did at UMass was iconic---Possibly the only comparison is Scott Drew at Baylor.
I do not think Hurley is better, or has ever been better---Their resumes are not even in the same stratosphere...Just pointed out that Cal had only been past the 2nd round 3x's in his first 13----That was it.
If pukes signs cooper they still eat first. The car salesman cal time is done
As much as I've dogged Ca, Flagg has been a Dukie by birth.
We just landed the #1 PG in Fland.
Quoting myself here. People need to realize this is Dukes way. Throw smoke out there despite EVERYONE knowing he was going to duke. Someone named Cooper Flagg is always going to duke. Stop falling for this stuff.
Dukes way? Duke threw smoke? What did anyone from Duke do or say that indicated Flagg was going somewhere else?
Dan Hurley with a parting shot: "we don't win popularity contests, we win championships".. and I can't help but wonder if there's some truth to this when it comes to players choosing Duke as opposed to another school, maybe the school that's really better for them long term.
For sure, there are some great Duke recruits who go on to have great NBA careers, like Tatum. But I'm watching Banchero struggle in the opening of his sophomore season. And he just looks timid, looks like he doesn't care, looks like he put in zero work all off season.
Flagg is the type of recruit who will be fine. Likely a long time NBA player and maybe several all-star type years. But the amount of Duke failures in the NBA is kind of alarming. Guys like Jabari, Wendell Carter, zion, RJ, Giles, Cam, Bagley, and more. It seems their best NBA players were the lesser recruits who went there to work, not because it was the cool pick.
For sure, there are some great Duke recruits who go on to have great NBA careers, like Tatum. But I'm watching Banchero struggle in the opening of his sophomore season. And he just looks timid, looks like he doesn't care, looks like he put in zero work all off season.
Flagg is the type of recruit who will be fine. Likely a long time NBA player and maybe several all-star type years. But the amount of Duke failures in the NBA is kind of alarming. Guys like Jabari, Wendell Carter, zion, RJ, Giles, Cam, Bagley, and more. It seems their best NBA players were the lesser recruits who went there to work, not because it was the cool pick.
Yeah I figured Duke fans were hitting refresh on a UK forum before 8am on a tuesday..
Make it make sense.. dukes recruiting was better than UKs for the last 6 or 7 years and there's almost nothing to show for it in the NBA.
Make it make sense.. dukes recruiting was better than UKs for the last 6 or 7 years and there's almost nothing to show for it in the NBA.
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