Bill the last time I had some Pappy 15, it had a medicinal and/or metallic taste to it and I did not enjoy it at all..None of them taste like they did back in 2005-2009..Damn shame.
Colorado friend looking for a bottle of Pappy this holiday season.
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Does anyone remember Black Maple Hill? Boy that stuff was wonderful and it went away pretty quick. the Willet guy told us the recipe was sent to a company in Oregon and they were making it but we never had any luck finding any.
I'm not particularly a fan of the Buffalo Trace pappy bottles or their wheaters in general. The only Wheater they make that I absolutely love is WLW.
Honestly, I think too much water has to go into them now to bring them to proof. Their barrel entry proof is too high for these. Sadly, economics wins in the end.
But some people love them, and to each their own. Owning a bottle of van winkle is sort of a rite of passage for bourbon geeks, so I don't criticize it too much. The secondary pries are waaaay out of whack, but it's generally not bad bourbon, just not worth the cost, IMO.
Originally, they were reportedly wheated bourbons that were likely sourced from a number of places, starting with Stitzel-Weller. Later, it was bought from and sourced by KBD/Willett. But Willett never had the actual recipe as they didn't even have a still to make whiskey until 4ish years ago. They just sourced barrels themselves from any place they could find them (99% of the time they get their bourbon from Heaven Hill). Granted, whiskey mash bills aren't THAT secret anyway, and most wheated bourbons have a very similar recipe (65-70% corn, 15-20% wheat, the rest in barley).
The new BMH is garbage. Oregon is not a good place to make and age bourbon. Wine? yes. Bourbon? Nope.
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Can't say I've never had any bourbon, I am after all a native Kentuckian, but I think he should just visit his local dispensary. Problem solved.
Fascinating stuff from you and others. Didn’t realize how little I know. Are you in the bourbon business?
Also curious to hear you breakdown Blantons.
Not sure. I’ll ask tomorrow. I know we charge $13 for a mint julep so lord knows how much a pappi costs
What is "Q recipies"?
And had a RR from Wild Turkey and thought it good/smooth... don't see many comments on it.
Not "in" the business, but I write about and review it. I've owned a bourbon website for about 4 years now- we're getting around 1.5MM page views per year at the moment- ModernThirst
I've always been a fan of Blanton's.
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Four Roses has 10 distinct bourbon recipes stemming from 5 different yeast strains and 2 different mash bills (combination of grains).
The "Q" yeast strain is the more floral of the recipes (there are 2 different "Q" recipes- OBSQ and OESQ).
The standard Four Roses Single Barrel is OBSV. The standard small batch and yellow label are blends of the recipes. The limited editions vary.
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Went to your site and think I should/will frequent it more often... As one who didn't always drink whiskey well, I can say that age not only improves whiskey but also the persons ability to enjoy... So for you younger abusers there is hope... When I was younger drinking Bourbon straight was a process of necessity. It only took about 15 minutes to get from the bootlegger to the dance hall in the neighboring town... I drink it straight now and find that it's the only way to discern the nuance... minus the headache and reports of crazy ish done.Four Roses has 10 distinct bourbon recipes stemming from 5 different yeast strains and 2 different mash bills (combination of grains).
The "Q" yeast strain is the more floral of the recipes (there are 2 different "Q" recipes- OBSQ and OESQ).
The standard Four Roses Single Barrel is OBSV. The standard small batch and yellow label are blends of the recipes. The limited editions vary.
Thanks! We've worked hard on it over the past few years. There are 4 writers at the moment, but we'll probably add a cocktail specialist soon. Makes for a good creative outlet for us.
I asked the bartender earlier. All they have right now is 10 year and it was $70 for 2oz.
I asked the bartender earlier. All they have right now is 10 year and it was $70 for 2oz.
My god! Definitely not worth that. It’s $70 retail for the bottle if you’re lucky enough to get one but if people will pay it, I don’t blame them for charging that.
