Coach here... End of season update.
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I know nothing of coaching, but the way it worked in software was you put in your dues, in my case 8 years in the wasteland that is the ABQ at Sandia Labs though I must say the Labs was a rather special place. The contacts I made there, the friends I made who knew what I could do finally lead me back to Colorado where I have remained now for 27 years. I came to have a dream to live in Boulder on a road trip between my sophomore and junior years at UK, and with those 8 years I made that dream come true. I hope yours do to.
He may leave after one year but unless he improves a lot between now and then it'll be a mistake. See, this is the kind of stuff that pisses me off with Cal. He puts it into these fringe OAD guys heads that they'll only be here a year. He should be telling them that they "might" have a good shot to be OAD if they put in the work but that it's not a sure thing.
If he wants to tell the sure fire OAD guys that crap then fine. But damn save it on the ones that should realistically be here more than a year. If the kid happens to not play to a OAD level then he feels like he has to leave or that he's a disappointment. These scenarios usually work out for Cal and the kid but we end up getting the short end of the stick as fans of the school.
As for Giles, can you imagine Cal bringing the #1 player in the country off the bench? It's amazing how Giles has been handled and that they will probably get another year from him. Must be nice to bring your top guys back for for a second season.
You do realize that if Duke gets Giles back, it's because they failed him as a player, right? Why would it be nice to have that?
No excuse for why Harry Giles should be a multiyear college player. He is too talented. Duke's player development stigma is warranted, in my opinion. And he isn't the only example of this.
Might check out the meaning of the word coach. Also as long as you're realistic why would you limit anyone's vision for the future. Once you set a low goal you will reach it. jmuo
Because they're getting a major talent back for another year. We've had a ton of kids get rich off uk the last 7 years. Forgive me if I don't shed a tear if some of ours get "failed" or held back and come back for atleast another year.
It can apply to Giles and he still not be smart enough to take the money right now. I'm sure Duke is selling him on coming back fully healthy, being on another really good team, and proving to teams that he's still the same player he once was and making a run at the #1 spot.
His alternative is to take top-15/20 money and not risk it any further.
Let's sincerely hope that Duke's recruiting goes to ![[poop]](https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/891/1682179.png "Poop [poop]")
, because as of right now, Duke fans and CB prognosticators seem to think they're getting Bagley, Reddish, Langford, and Williamson. Dream on Douchies, ain't going to happen. Those four just happen to be the top 4 players in the country next year and the best by a significant margin over the rest of the field. Plus throw in the best PG in the country in No. 7 Darius Garland.
I think we've got a good shot at each of those Top 4 guys. Reddish I think is the most likely to end up at Duke.
Seriously don't get Duke's appeal to these kids. Hopefully we can rain on their parade next year and they're going to lose a lot of luster post-K. They may get Duval, but this year didn't quite pan out they way they hoped on the recruiting front.
Also, I'd guess the PG who is close to committing is Javonte Smart, not Quickley.
, because as of right now, Duke fans and CB prognosticators seem to think they're getting Bagley, Reddish, Langford, and Williamson. Dream on Douchies, ain't going to happen. Those four just happen to be the top 4 players in the country next year and the best by a significant margin over the rest of the field. Plus throw in the best PG in the country in No. 7 Darius Garland.I think we've got a good shot at each of those Top 4 guys. Reddish I think is the most likely to end up at Duke.
Seriously don't get Duke's appeal to these kids. Hopefully we can rain on their parade next year and they're going to lose a lot of luster post-K. They may get Duval, but this year didn't quite pan out they way they hoped on the recruiting front.
Also, I'd guess the PG who is close to committing is Javonte Smart, not Quickley.
Thanks, Coach. Say hi to Sam, Norm and the gang.
Got on this morning to check this post, and I had no idea the most discussed issue would be Harry Giles.
For the record, I heard last night something for a less reputable person that makes me think Giles leaves. These things change, either he or I have old information.
-If you all have some questions I can try to answer, give them and I'll see what I can do over the weekend...
Just post them and @ me.
I'm only working eight hours a day, so I need something to do with all my free time haha.
For the record, I heard last night something for a less reputable person that makes me think Giles leaves. These things change, either he or I have old information.
-If you all have some questions I can try to answer, give them and I'll see what I can do over the weekend...
Just post them and @ me.
I'm only working eight hours a day, so I need something to do with all my free time haha.
Hey man, maybe it is legit. But again... there is nothing in the original post that I couldn't have come up with or that can be held to. In fact, it sort of reads like... if someone wanted to post something that would make UK fans happy, you know? UK is doing great, Cal is pushing OAD, Duke is getting hammered in exactly the fashion you guys would like, former #1 recruit Giles is sucking so badly that he probably can't even go to the league, oh, and it is Grayson's Allen fault...
And there is almost no way Giles comes back... although leaving it 75/25 allows someone to say "Oh well, I guess he saw the light and realized there was nothing to be gained... something must have changed."
Could be totally legit, of course. Just saying... nothing revolutionary there. Next one could easily be something like...
"Hearing a 2019 guard is SUPER high on the Cats. Loves how Cal used Monk and Fox this year. We should hear something in the near future, although there could be something that bumps that back.
Bagley apparently had a great convo with Cal recently... he likes UK a lot.
Zion Williamson is another guy who really likes UK, but I am hearing from some folks I know that he is leaning towards staying close to home. 70/30 he stays in SC, but anything can happen.
Duke continues to take a beating on the recruiting trail. Especially the bigs are noticing that Duke tends to use their big guys just for setting screens.
Coach Barbee seems to have taken the lead on the recruitment of Moses Brown, a big who might be on his way up the rankings. His camp loves what Cal has done with bigs, especially a few who have a similar play style."
You know?
But of course, could totally legit be a D1 coach posting tidbits on a message board.
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I get your saltiness but I also agree with you. Everything is Allen's fault, even Global Warming.
You are a total moron . Coach has been proven to know what is talking about and has been on here for a while now . Also he ain't D1 yet. Such a douchebag in the typical Duke model. How's Bolden's lottery pick year going ? If you can't see that Duke hasn't produced much in the way of NBA bigs in years I don't know what to tell you.
Still clowning I see.
Why don't you go pore through all of Coach's posts like the Zapruder film and then type 40 or 50 more paragraphs that no one will read?
Gotcha. And as I've said, a few times, obviously you could be completely legit. I've just seen a few long cons that seem similar in the message board world. I'll leave it alone from now on.
I hear you, and your overall point that anyone can make up anything on the internet isn't something anyone wants to debate.
But Coach has been around a little while and has generally been accurate in the past. He also presents his information in a way that isn't self congratulatory or attention seeking.
None of us think he's in Cal's secret meeting room, it's just nice to get occasional tidbits. Especially since even the guys who put their name to this stuff and get paid to do it are mostly reading the way the wind blows and deciding whose gossip to trust.
Look at you Sherlock. Nothing fools you.
Coach is taking this con as long as the Nile will take him. He's innit to winnit.
Correct. If I walked into a room with him, he'd have no idea who I am. We do however share a few people in our own circles.
Growing up, I was a fan of Temple and Villanova.
As I progressed into coaching, I'm now a fan of coaching staffs and a few select programs from afar.
I'm not here for fame, I just happen to like UK fans and I like sharing rumors and information.
At some point my information is going to be wrong or change in a split second and I'll be "wrong".
There is quite a few senile people here, relax and enjoy a great team and coaching staff.
The guy giving you crap is a Duke fan, which should explain a lot.
This. If he came back and still played badly, he'll fall out of the draft entirely on the presumptions that Giles is too far gone to be great again.
I've thought for a while now that Duke/K would try and retain Giles for another year. They are that type of program.
Coach, what makes you so sure Duke is out for Knox? I keep hearing it, but back in May Crystal Balls went all in on Knox to Duke, and that hasn't changed..
Coach, what makes you so sure Duke is out for Knox? I keep hearing it, but back in May Crystal Balls went all in on Knox to Duke, and that hasn't changed..
Duke may get Giles back, but at what cost? There's no way that's a good thing, and recruits and their families will be cautious about Duke going forward. Clearly, they are more concerned about the basketball program over the player.
If Giles comes back there's a lot of negative that can happen. One more knee injury, him not being the same player to begin with.. Bringing Giles back for just one extra season could totally blow up his NBA career and derail Duke's recruiting.
If this was at Kentucky, I'd rather him just go to the NBA. Too much risk for the player and the program.
If Giles comes back there's a lot of negative that can happen. One more knee injury, him not being the same player to begin with.. Bringing Giles back for just one extra season could totally blow up his NBA career and derail Duke's recruiting.
If this was at Kentucky, I'd rather him just go to the NBA. Too much risk for the player and the program.
Right now, some people who's close tells me he's leaning on returning. Now once agents and family gets in to discuss, things could change. He may very well leave.
Knox would fit in anywhere he goes, but some families just don't care for Duke, just like some families don't care for Kentucky.
Recruiting is about connections, so which ever coach can connect and sell their pitch the best usually wins.
He's got four good options, I just think Duke is at the end of the four.
@CoachX11 --what else are you hearing about '18? If the smart money isn't on the PG stuff happening quickly, what about the rest of the studs at the top of that class?
I know it usually becomes clear over the summer who Cal has made a priority, that's the way we typically cycle our recruiting, but what's the early landscape looking like?
Also, any talk about UK looking to add other guys to the roster for next year beyond Bamba/Knox?
I know it usually becomes clear over the summer who Cal has made a priority, that's the way we typically cycle our recruiting, but what's the early landscape looking like?
Also, any talk about UK looking to add other guys to the roster for next year beyond Bamba/Knox?
Give me the weekend to figure somethings out.
If I don't respond Monday. @ me again.
In my limited time here it seems that you only post negative comments.
We need someone to take his picture holding a copy of today's newspaper. Maybe the Missing Richard Simmons podcaster can get on this case.
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