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Chances Oscar Returns?

Hopefully, it's in the negative percentage. Oscar seems like a nice guy, but he isn't a good basketball player. He did nothing for WVU, and they actually played some zone to mask his defense. He was still awful. He has led us nowhere except for a lot of early exits. Aside from getting rebounds, he offers nothing. And I don't recall a lot of Cal teams struggling to rebound. So I think we will be okay in that regard if Oscar goes. At his age and with his strong beliefs, he isn't going to connect well with younger players. Particularly ones that don't want to be preached to all day. He also won't be eligible for the summer games as that is U23.

And to anyone suggesting he play the 4.... he can't guard a 5. How the hell is he going to defend a 4? We need a four who can stretch the floor and make some 3's, and Oscar can't move out further than 15 - 17 ft. So, his defender can easily sag off Oscar and help double the lane anytime Oscar moves out of it. Oscar also can't do the one thing he is actually good at when he is moved away from the basket. WVU tried him at the 4 and he was awful. Whoever thinks that is a good idea needs to go drink some bleach.

I would love to see UK become competitive again and actually have a chance to advance far in tournaments. We aren't doing that with Oscar. Nor is anyone else that plays him considerable minutes. Just ask WVU.
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Guys, it doesn't matter if Oscar returns or not. Honestly, I hope he does. But, Calipari isn't going to win anything no matter what the roster looks like.
Don't fall for the same old "wait till next year" routine with this clown. Calipari couldn't win a title with the ridiculously talented 2015 squad. A team that included two future NBA All Stars. Why would you think he can win a title now???
 
You’re insinuating that Kentuckys success rests on Oscar’s shoulders alone and his production should equal wins. That’s wrong. We underachieved because we had shooters who couldn’t shoot, guards who couldn’t create, and too many kids who brought inconsistent effort. Plenty of blame to go around. But Oscar kept us in a lot of games. We won games on his back and that’s a fact.

I thought Kentucky fans were smart. Hmmmmm
Very true, but Oscar also can’t guard at all and isn’t a great passer, he is great and you obviously want him on your team but he has to get better defensively or Kentucky has to get a shot blocker to pair with him, because bradshaw isn’t a shot blocker people need to realize that
 
If he returns will he learn how to defend the pick and roll and how not to bring the ball down low in the post?

If not, he can leave for all I care.

He has put up huge scoring/rebounding numbers in two years and we have 1 SEC Tournament and 1 NCAA Tournament win.
Tell which option is better. Oscar or random big from mid major? With ugonna a gonna we need interior players. Oscar’s big problem has been lack of depth in the front court so he can play free of worry of foul trouble. I mean I see a way for this to work out big time.
 
Very true, but Oscar also can’t guard at all and isn’t a great passer, he is great and you obviously want him on your team but he has to get better defensively or Kentucky has to get a shot blocker to pair with him, because bradshaw isn’t a shot blocker people need to realize that
He’s a net positive. Big time. We don’t make the tournament without him this past year. You and other like minded folks are trying too hard with this. NPOY and 2 time all American and you don’t want him because he doesn’t play the pick and roll well. Lol

The problem was Cal’s roster construction and the many holes around Oscar. It wasn’t Oscar himself. The kid is a stud.
 
Tell which option is better. Oscar or random big from mid major? With ugonna a gonna we need interior players. Oscar’s big problem has been lack of depth in the front court so he can play free of worry of foul trouble. I mean I see a way for this to work out big time.
I agree that Oscar returning can work out, as long as we change the way we run our offense and defense. He was a liability defensively, and had plenty of flaws offensively (passing, shooting outside of the paint, bringing the ball low). However, if we put him in a position where his weaknesses are not exploited, the team, in addition to Oscar, can succeed. My gripe before was that in order for him to succeed, we were playing a style that led to others not succeeding. I understand why we did it, because we had to in order to stay in games, but we couldn't go far with that. In response to "random big from mid major", Ugonna has not shown at this point that he is as good as such a random big. Tons of potential, but he wasn't ready this year. I'm not sure when people wanted him to play. We didn't have games that we were winning big enough to let people play just to learn. That should've happened in practice playing against Oscar.
 
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I agree that Oscar returning can work out, as long as we change the way we run our offense and defense. He was a liability defensively, and had plenty of flaws offensively (passing, shooting outside of the paint, bringing the ball low). However, if we put him in a position where his weaknesses are not exploited, the team, in addition to Oscar, can succeed. My gripe before was that in order for him to succeed, we were playing a style that led to others not succeeding. I understand why we did it, because we had to in order to stay in games, but we couldn't go far with that. In response to "random big from mid major", Ugonna has not shown at this point that he is as good as such a random big. Tons of potential, but he wasn't ready this year. I'm not sure when people wanted him to play. We didn't have games that we were winning big enough to let people play just to learn. That should've happened in practice playing against Oscar.
Ugonna is in the portal.
 
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Will Oscar have to live in the Lodge or is going to be allowed to do his own thing again if he comes back?

Love Oscar but he wouldn't be doing his own thing or living away from Wildcat lodge like he did this past season if he comes back.He would adhere to the same rules the others do but I don't expect him back so it doesn't matter.
Why are we assuming he was living separately for negative reasons? What if the noise of others is too distracting for him and he’s actually studying late at night to make good grades? He can’t go to the library because he’ll be swarmed.

I really don’t like the narrative that our best player was such a problem for the team. If he was such a cancer why didn’t we hear anything about his behavior the previous season?

Oscar is a legal first generation American. These are the people that have traditionally worked the hardest working Americans that have ever lived in this country (by historical precedent).

I do think his culture is clashing with his teammates and coach. But aren’t Americans supposed to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants?
 
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Oscar is 24. It's time for him to move on from college. If he doesn't try to make it to the NBA now, he may never make it.
This may also be his last opportunity to get a million bucks, his stock won’t fall or rise anymore no matter what he decides so returning is the best option as of right now.
 
If he returns will he learn how to defend the pick and roll and how not to bring the ball down low in the post?

If not, he can leave for all I care.

He has put up huge scoring/rebounding numbers in two years and we have 1 SEC Tournament and 1 NCAA Tournament win.
It’s not his fault we lost. Maybe he can get some help.
 
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Hopefully, it's in the negative percentage. Oscar seems like a nice guy, but he isn't a good basketball player. He did nothing for WVU, and they actually played some zone to mask his defense. He was still awful. He has led us nowhere except for a lot of early exits. Aside from getting rebounds, he offers nothing. And I don't recall a lot of Cal teams struggling to rebound. So I think we will be okay in that regard if Oscar goes. At his age and with his strong beliefs, he isn't going to connect well with younger players. Particularly ones that don't want to be preached to all day. He also won't be eligible for the summer games as that is U23.

And to anyone suggesting he play the 4.... he can't guard a 5. How the hell is he going to defend a 4? We need a four who can stretch the floor and make some 3's, and Oscar can't move out further than 15 - 17 ft. So, his defender can easily sag off Oscar and help double the lane anytime Oscar moves out of it. Oscar also can't do the one thing he is actually good at when he is moved away from the basket. WVU tried him at the 4 and he was awful. Whoever thinks that is a good idea needs to go drink some bleach.

I would love to see UK become competitive again and actually have a chance to advance far in tournaments. We aren't doing that with Oscar. Nor is anyone else that plays him considerable minutes. Just ask WVU.
Troll. Man you all make so many sock accounts it’s crazy.
 
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Why are we assuming he was living separately for negative reasons? What if the noise of others is too distracting for him and he’s actually studying late at night to make good grades? He can’t go to the library because he’ll be swarmed.

I really don’t like the narrative that our best player was such a problem for the team. If he was such a cancer why didn’t we hear anything about his behavior the previous season?

Oscar is a legal first generation American. These are the people that have traditionally worked the hardest working Americans that have ever lived in this country (by historical precedent).

I do think his culture is clashing with his teammates and coach. But aren’t Americans supposed to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants?
I don't get what accepting immigration has to do with Oscar living away from Wildcat lodge.Really he is a member of the team and should be held to the same rules as the other players.
Not sure why you even brought up the last 2 paragraphs.I know plenty of hard working Americans and as for culture,I'm sure there was plenty of room for Oscar and his teammates to be tolerant of each other's beliefs and space.Its when something is forced on somebody that problems occur.Anyway,if your on the team,you stay at the lodge regardless of how much NIL you get or who you are,that's how it should be period.
 
Just when I thought our fanbase couldn’t get any dumber, we get this gem. So tell us how someone who is not a good basketball player is able to sweep all 6 player of the year awards. I can’t wait to hear this.



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That was a UNC fan that’s trolled this board for years. That’s not a real UK fan that made that post about Oscar
 
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Wait didn't Toppin say he was going to follow Oscars lead. If Oscar comes back so should Toppin.
 
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Very true, but Oscar also can’t guard at all and isn’t a great passer, he is great and you obviously want him on your team but he has to get better defensively or Kentucky has to get a shot blocker to pair with him, because bradshaw isn’t a shot blocker people need to realize that
There are ways to deal with this better. You can't park him in the post and you don't want him taking more than 1-2 jumpers per game. But mostly Cal needs to somehow find a quality combo big to be able to play if OT can't play better defensively (and with him and Bradshaw is not as ready as many think). I get people talking about zone and Cal needs to be able to mix it in but Oscar could play better defense than he has shown. Periodic time on the bench might help motivate that and he also probably has been playing too many minutes. I kinda like the UT guy for that role.
 
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Blaming Oscar because we couldn't win anything with him is like putting blame for the Titanic sinking on the guy shoveling coal into the engines.

Any team in college basketball. ANY TEAM. Would welcome him with open arms and their coach would immediately figure out how to optimize him.
 
Oscar is 24. It's time for him to move on from college. If he doesn't try to make it to the NBA now, he may never make it.
He’d never make the nba this year or next year. If you made 7 figures in college, you’d stick around too. I’d absolutely love him back. People are crazy and stupid if they didn’t think that way
 
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Sure I did. It was literally my first sentence. 🤣

The reason what I said is upsetting you is because you know it's true.


When you're the NPOY and star of the team, it sorta does rest on his shoulders.

We underachived because we have a 6'9 center with no defense, not a very high basketball IQ, low athleticism and not a strong shooter. Other teams openly attack him on D and admit that's their strategy. He clogs the lane on offense and none of our guards can consistently get in the paint to create easy offense.

Are others to blame? Sure. But take Oscar out replace him with a better defender and floor spacer, and I guarantee things inprove on both ends.

We also lost a ton because of him, which is also a fact.

I thought UK fans were fans of winning. Hmmmmm

Don't even know what the hell that means. Take a brake from the internet, bud. You'll come back better for it.

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Hopefully, it's in the negative percentage. Oscar seems like a nice guy, but he isn't a good basketball player. He did nothing for WVU, and they actually played some zone to mask his defense. He was still awful. He has led us nowhere except for a lot of early exits. Aside from getting rebounds, he offers nothing. And I don't recall a lot of Cal teams struggling to rebound. So I think we will be okay in that regard if Oscar goes. At his age and with his strong beliefs, he isn't going to connect well with younger players. Particularly ones that don't want to be preached to all day. He also won't be eligible for the summer games as that is U23.

And to anyone suggesting he play the 4.... he can't guard a 5. How the hell is he going to defend a 4? We need a four who can stretch the floor and make some 3's, and Oscar can't move out further than 15 - 17 ft. So, his defender can easily sag off Oscar and help double the lane anytime Oscar moves out of it. Oscar also can't do the one thing he is actually good at when he is moved away from the basket. WVU tried him at the 4 and he was awful. Whoever thinks that is a good idea needs to go drink some bleach.

I would love to see UK become competitive again and actually have a chance to advance far in tournaments. We aren't doing that with Oscar. Nor is anyone else that plays him considerable minutes. Just ask WVU.
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I think right now it's likely Oscar returns. And I'm sure that Cal wants him to return. Things can always change. The NBA may very well tell Oscar they want him. If I was an NBA owner I would want him on my team.
 
The number of threads and posts saying they don't want Oscar back is proof that it's worthless to come to this board anymore and have an intelligent conversation. It's either filled with trolls or morons and it's getting worse all the time
 
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The number of threads and posts saying they don't want Oscar back is proof that it's worthless to come to this board anymore and have an intelligent conversation. It's either filled with trolls or morons and it's getting worse all the time
Agree.
 
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The number of threads and posts saying they don't want Oscar back is proof that it's worthless to come to this board anymore and have an intelligent conversation. It's either filled with trolls or morons and it's getting worse all the time
It’s sadly what the lack of production on the court has garnered. We have those that will defend Cal to the death. His cult. We then have those who hate Cal even when he’s doing well for us.

Some of us don’t care who the coach is per se as long as UK wins honorably and upholds our storied tradition, whether that be Cal or someone else.
 
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Jeez, where would Oscar be going? He’s not going to the NBA. Is he going to transfer and make less NIL money somewhere?

I'd love to have him back, but if Cal plays him, he needs to go with a different means for feeding the post, this crap where everyone stands there and watches Oscar fight two defenders for position is so bad. Our guards need to drive the ball and find him in the lane and everyone should be moving to make the defense react.

I also wouldn't mind seeing Oscar clear out so our guards can get to the rim. Maybe use Oscar in some cutting action… anything is better than what Cal has been doing.
It's strange to me that we get crushed by the pick and roll... and rarely use it ourselves. Oscar could certainly set a helluva pick at the top of the key, roll to the basket himself, and let our guards create from there. Hope you are doing well, Jeff.
 
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It’s not his fault we lost. Maybe he can get some help.

I didn't say it was his fault (although his defense is on him). Cal doesn't know how to build a roster. Cal isn't going anywhere, so this is Oscar's fate, IMO.

DJ Wagner needs to be our guy. Ball in hand at all times, driving to the basket. We haven't had a player like him sine Fox. I fear Oscar is going to clog the lane again.

Again, I LOVE Oscar. But he does not work in what Cal does, and there is stuff behind the scenes we obviously don't know too (the weird comments, his injury, etc.).
 
In my perfect world, Oscar comes back and contributes to a NC run. Three weeks later he is drafted by my Buffalo Bills in the 6th round as a TE. Allen hitting those soft hands in the red zone could be special.
 
Tell which option is better. Oscar or random big from mid major? With ugonna a gonna we need interior players. Oscar’s big problem has been lack of depth in the front court so he can play free of worry of foul trouble. I mean I see a way for this to work out big time.

I'm for 4 guards/wings and Bradshaw. Especially if we can get another shooter to put be Reeves (assuming he comes back).
 
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It’s sadly what the lack of production on the court has garnered. We have those that will defend Cal to the death. His cult. We then have those who hate Cal even when he’s doing well for us.

Some of us don’t care who the coach is per se as long as UK wins honorably and upholds our storied tradition, whether that be Cal or someone else.
That tradition that we love is being destroyed however.
I don't hate Cal,I just think his time here is done.I wish he would adapt and change but it's simply not in his capabilities to make the adjustments and change that the game requires today.I anticipate an ugly divorce between UK and Cal and one that could end up taking Barnfart with him.
 
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That tradition that we love is being destroyed however.
I don't hate Cal,I just think his time here is done.I wish he would adapt and change but it's simply not in his capabilities to make the adjustments and change that the game requires today.I anticipate an ugly divorce between UK and Cal and one that could end up taking Barnfart with him.
I sadly concur.
 
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He’s a net positive. Big time. We don’t make the tournament without him this past year. You and other like minded folks are trying too hard with this. NPOY and 2 time all American and you don’t want him because he doesn’t play the pick and roll well. Lol

The problem was Cal’s roster construction and the many holes around Oscar. It wasn’t Oscar himself. The kid is a stud.
I have said a lot of times that I want Oscar back but if you leave the roster like last year than nothing will change, you have to build around Oscar like UConn did around sanago, and you have to get more shooting and shot blocker. UConn had 4-5 guys who are shooters not just one like Kentucky did
 
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There are ways to deal with this better. You can't park him in the post and you don't want him taking more than 1-2 jumpers per game. But mostly Cal needs to somehow find a quality combo big to be able to play if OT can't play better defensively (and with him and Bradshaw is not as ready as many think). I get people talking about zone and Cal needs to be able to mix it in but Oscar could play better defense than he has shown. Periodic time on the bench might help motivate that and he also probably has been playing too many minutes. I kinda like the UT guy for that role.
You gotta get a shot blocker, bradshaw isn’t a shot blocker like of people think. He doesn’t have good time and kinda just roams around, calipari has to have a elite rim protector for his teams to be great
 
Sure I did. It was literally my first sentence. 🤣

The reason what I said is upsetting you is because you know it's true.


When you're the NPOY and star of the team, it sorta does rest on his shoulders.

We underachived because we have a 6'9 center with no defense, not a very high basketball IQ, low athleticism and not a strong shooter. Other teams openly attack him on D and admit that's their strategy. He clogs the lane on offense and none of our guards can consistently get in the paint to create easy offense.

Are others to blame? Sure. But take Oscar out replace him with a better defender and floor spacer, and I guarantee things inprove on both ends.

We also lost a ton because of him, which is also a fact.

I thought UK fans were fans of winning. Hmmmmm

Don't even know what the hell that means. Take a brake from the internet, bud. You'll come back better for it.

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Yeah. You’re trolling.
 
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