Pretty good numbers this postseason for a guy so many of you wrote off.
Hilarious stuff, actually.
Hilarious stuff, actually.
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The Pels BETTER resign Rondo. I'm hoping they keep this entire team intact.If the Pelicans make the playoffs next year with Rondo, and assuming he's healthy/starting, he could leap-frog Bird for all-time playoff assists this time next year.
He might end up in the top 5 all-time playoff assists leaders if sticks he sticks with the Pelicans.
Need to trade Hill and get more offenseThe Pels BETTER resign Rondo. I'm hoping they keep this entire team intact.
That’s the only player that is having a rough time right now but maybe he will get going. The rest I hope they keep. I’ve not loved a NBA team this much since the BULLS in the 90s. Lol. Go Pels.Need to trade Hill and get more offense
He’s had his moments for sure. Lol just a Terrible situation for everyone involved in Dallas.Easy to play the "I told you so" game now. But what Rondo did 3 years ago in Dallas was one of the most disgraceful, shameless examples of an athlete absolutely not trying in the history of sports. And it's not a coincidence that he's on his 3rd team in 3 years after that.
Bad situation for all involved. Who can deny the rift between player and coach. Yet look at where Carlisle and the Mavs are today and look where the Pels are today.Easy to play the "I told you so" game now. But what Rondo did 3 years ago in Dallas was one of the most disgraceful, shameless examples of an athlete absolutely not trying in the history of sports. And it's not a coincidence that he's on his 3rd team in 3 years after that.
Is that an excuse for trying to lose?Bad situation for all involved. Who can deny the rift between player and coach. Yet look at where Carlisle and the Mavs are today and look where the Pels are today.
Is that an excuse for trying to lose?
Because I saw Rondo's last game in Dallas, and that's exactly what he was doing.
Dallas paid him nearly 13 million dollars to play basketball that year, BTW.
Well, he didn't really seem to care whether his team won or lost. I think there's a fairly strong equivalence there.I’m usually in your corner in these discussions, but I have a hard time understanding whether you’re being literal here.
“Trying to lose” is a statement without the necessary evidence to make it stick. Rondo played a total of 37 minutes that year against Dallas and absolutely played like crap. He made horrible decisions with the ball and lacked the intensity that we typically see from him. How that equates into “trying to lose” is a condition that you’ve presupposed for this discussion, and it certainly doesn’t quality as completely objective, unless there’s real evidence that Rondo wanted to lose. Is there?
Did he act like a baby in the series and hurt his team? Yes. Does that act as evidentiary intent that he wanted to lose? Not hardly.
Easy to play the "I told you so" game now. But what Rondo did 3 years ago in Dallas was one of the most disgraceful, shameless examples of an athlete absolutely not trying in the history of sports. And it's not a coincidence that he's on his 3rd team in 3 years after that.
I don't know who's writing him off, but if you're looking at his career, his time in Dallas counts. And it's spectacularly negative.I actually argued that the criticisms of Rondo were premature, because Rondo had and still has talent. He failed in Dallas, and quite significantly actually; but Dallas doesn’t justify the definitive tone so many had regarding writing him off, although most were directly referencing Rondo’s month of December with the Bulls in their collective rejection of him.
Losing was all on Rondo?? So NBA teams have never tanked for higher draft choices? And Mavs owner Mark Cuban was never fined $600k for suggesting it?Is that an excuse for trying to lose?
Because I saw Rondo's last game in Dallas, and that's exactly what he was doing.
Dallas paid him nearly 13 million dollars to play basketball that year, BTW.
Is that an excuse for trying to lose?
Because I saw Rondo's last game in Dallas, and that's exactly what he was doing.
Dallas paid him nearly 13 million dollars to play basketball that year, BTW.
The fact that he's still this good makes all that bullshit he pulled the last handful of seasons even more ridiculous and embarrassing.
Being old and done is one thing, it happens to everyone. Rondo threw a multi-year, multi-team tantrum and has demonstrated more than a decade of problematic behavior. Every criticism of him is justified.
I don't know who's writing him off, but if you're looking at his career, his time in Dallas counts. And it's spectacularly negative.
Rondo is, in many ways, a specialist. I'd almost compare him to Dennis Rodman. He's a guy who defines himself in a somewhat limited way, but can be truly spectacular in that limited way. Give Rondo some scorers around him, let him try to get 20 assists, and he will perform. Ask him to do a lot more than that, and you're asking for problems.
I’m not, nor have I, argued that the criticisms regarding his behavior aren’t justified.
I’m arguing that the criticisms regarding the projections on his career being finished are not and were not justified.
Two totally different arguments. The projections were ridiculous and still are.
You think it's accurate to call negative projections about a 31 year old point guard who had shown 3 consecutive years of not only poor play but awful attitude premature?
This. People absolutely LOVE to pile on Rajon Rondo. Some even like to kiss the ass of Chris Paul while doing so.Oh please. I've seen NBA players essentially seem to quit many times. Just watch some of them play D, they're ready to go home half the time and smoke bud and swim in their Olympic pool.
Rondo isn't much different than half of those guys. He's got an attitude. He's just easy to pile on.
Cal has done something similar. Go back and watch the 08 Missouri tournament game.
I wonder what the narrative of this thread would be if this player played for another team in college. People will defend UK players blindly, even harder than they would their families. Rondo is a great player; however, the BS he pulled in Dallas was worthy of criticism.
Would have loved to see that. Especially so with Rondo and Azubuike. Crawford too, to an extent.Imagine Calipari coaching
Morris
Hayes
Azibuke
Sparks
Rondo
Crawford and Bradley off the bench....that would have been fun to see. Cal would've made Morris a top 10 pick. Rondo would have been an All-American...he's really the PG that Cal loves with his toughness.
Just the way Cal can motivate Freshman is special...amazing that was the #1 class and Rondo was the only one that found success in the pros. Morris could have been better with different coaching...Cal is a motivator and would have turned Randolph into a star. Combined with Hayes and Azibuke's experience it would have made for a tough group of guys.Would have loved to see that. Especially so with Rondo and Azubuike. Crawford too, to an extent.
Definitely agree. It seemed like Morris only tapped into about a quarter of his potential.Just the way Cal can motivate Freshman is special...amazing that was the #1 class and Rondo was the only one that found success in the pros. Morris could have been better with different coaching...Cal is a motivator and would have turned Randolph into a star. Combined with Hayes and Azibuke's experience it would have made for a tough group of guys.
Imagine Sparks hitting an amazing off-balanced shot to send the game to overtime as time expired, for a trip to the Final Four. Oh, that happened already.Imagine Calipari coaching
Morris
Hayes
Azibuke
Sparks
Rondo
Crawford and Bradley off the bench....that would have been fun to see. Cal would've made Morris a top 10 pick. Rondo would have been an All-American...he's really the PG that Cal loves with his toughness.
He coached a team with 7/8 guys higher ranked and more touted coming out of HS this year.Imagine Calipari coaching
Morris
Hayes
Azibuke
Sparks
Rondo
Crawford and Bradley off the bench....that would have been fun to see. Cal would've made Morris a top 10 pick. Rondo would have been an All-American...he's really the PG that Cal loves with his toughness.
Because he was a severely undersized 2 guard, and not good enough at any specific thing to overcome it. Also, while he was a big recruit for Memphis at the time, he was never as highly rated as some people seem to think. His RSCI was 15.He coached a team with 7/8 guys higher ranked and more touted coming out of HS this year.
Also, why wasnt Darius Washington an all American or a top 10 pick?
Add a Senior Chuck Hayes and a Junior Azibuke to this past years team...and then add a good 3-point shooter in Sparks...yeah that would've completed last year's team.He coached a team with 7/8 guys higher ranked and more touted coming out of HS this year.
Also, why wasnt Darius Washington an all American or a top 10 pick?
Sure miss that trio of players.Add a Senior Chuck Hayes and a Junior Azibuke to this past years team...and then add a good 3-point shooter in Sparks...yeah that would've completed last year's team.