Cal since 2016

[Porky Pigskin33]

This has been discussed many times, but it's undeniable that the Calipari era has gone downhill since that horrible loss to Wisconsin.

Since 2016, Cal has:

*Lost to 22 unranked teams.

*Compiled a disappointing 22-18 record against Top 25 teams.

*Suffered embarrassing NCAA Tournament losses to sub-par coaches Tom Crean and Bruce Weber.

*Compiled a 5-7 record against Rick Barnes.

*Failed to make a Final Four.

I'm sure someone will inevitably respond by asking, "Would you rather have Tubby back?" Truth is, I don't see much difference between Calipari's past six seasons and the Tubby era.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

This has been discussed many times, but it's undeniable that the Calipari era has gone downhill since that horrible loss to Wisconsin.

Since 2016, Cal has:

*Lost to 22 unranked teams.

*Compiled a disappointing 22-18 record against Top 25 teams.

*Suffered embarrassing NCAA Tournament losses to sub-par coaches Tom Crean and Bruce Weber.

*Compiled a 5-7 record against Rick Barnes.

*Failed to make a Final Four.

I'm sure someone will inevitably respond by asking, "Would you rather have Tubby back?" Truth is, I don't see much difference between Calipari's past six seasons and the Tubby era.

If you post facts you will get attacked and maybe even a ban by fact checking here.

 

[Baller Cal]

If you post facts you will get attacked and maybe even a ban by fact checking here.

Here's a fact (hope I don't get banned for posting facts). You were banned for a while for admitting that you like to come here and agitate UK fans with your Cal bashing, etc.. You said it was "too easy".

 

[BlueBomb]

This is the way I look at it: if the team is going to turn over completely every year, and I’m not going to get to really know any of the players, then we better be producing on the court at a high level. Otherwise, the model doesn’t work for me.

Each person can define “high level“ as they wish. To me, the past few years have been borderline. it could go either way for me in the next season or two.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

Going 40-0 in 2015 was supposed to be his Arc de Triomphe, but losing in the Final Four and Duke going on to win the title broke him. I'm not sure if he'll ever recover.

 

[MrBlonde88]

If you post facts you will get attacked and maybe even a ban by fact checking here.

that's only because cal is now down with the struggle and appeases the grievance crowd. Did you think it was about winning or something ?

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Going 40-0 in 2015 was supposed to be his Arc de Triomphe, but losing in the Final Four and Duke going on to win the title broke him. I'm not sure if he'll ever recover.

It seems like he has lost his mind a little bit too since then. His appearance looks pretty.....bizarre lately.

 

[JFCats22]

Here's a fact (hope I don't get banned for posting facts). You were banned for a while for admitting that you like to come here and agitate UK fans with your Cal bashing, etc.. You said it was "too easy".

coming from someone who has been suspended and banned multiple times, this is hilarious!!

 

[Untouchables22]

Who do you realistically think is a better option that UK could hire at this time? I’m not seeing a better option.

 

[Baller Cal]

coming from someone who has been suspended and banned multiple times, this is hilarious!!

I was suspended once, only, because you cried and cried to the moderators. Hilarious!!

 

[STL_Cat]

100% undeniable

 

[TFCats11]

Cal set the bar for himself pretty high early on, no doubt. But there seems to be a combination of things that has kept him from maintaining that bar.

A few are beyond his control, but taking care of teams like Evansville and Richmond at home are in his control.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

This has been discussed many times, but it's undeniable that the Calipari era has gone downhill since that horrible loss to Wisconsin.

Since 2016, Cal has:

*Lost to 22 unranked teams.

*Compiled a disappointing 22-18 record against Top 25 teams.

*Suffered embarrassing NCAA Tournament losses to sub-par coaches Tom Crean and Bruce Weber.

*Compiled a 5-7 record against Rick Barnes.

*Failed to make a Final Four.

I'm sure someone will inevitably respond by asking, "Would you rather have Tubby back?" Truth is, I don't see much difference between Calipari's past six seasons and the Tubby era.

add in failed to get a 1 seed. i went back as far as the early 1990's and couldnt find 5 year stretches without a 1 seed for KU, Duke, or UNC.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

coming from someone who has been suspended and banned multiple times, this is hilarious!!

You should be excited . After this loss you will have plenty of links to post on here. That is what you thrive on.

 

[cornbreadnmilk]

Yikes.

 

[WildcatFan60]

It seems like he has lost his mind a little bit too since then. His appearance looks pretty.....bizarre lately.

Yea looking like his buddy Huggins.

 

[Cawood86]

Who do you realistically think is a better option that UK could hire at this time? I’m not seeing a better option.

Well, with Barnhart doing the hiring, I would not confident in his ability.
There are very good coaches out there that would love to come to UK.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Relying on non-elite freshmen has been the difference. That's why I still think this current group could do good things because Boston and Clarke are a notch above most of the freshmen we've had here the last few years.

 

[RunninRichie]

It seems like he has lost his mind a little bit too since then. His appearance looks pretty.....bizarre lately.

Huh?

 

[DraftCat]

Dude college basketball as a whole is on its last leg. Who knows in the next few years that we even care lol

 

[oldsports_]

Why use that ti m e frame?
We had a Final 4 appearance locked up last year.

 

[DocLockdown]

Relying on non-elite freshmen has been the difference. That's why I still think this current group could do good things because Boston and Clarke are a notch above most of the freshmen we've had here the last few years.

Exactly. No AD’s, Randles, KAT’s, etc makes all the difference.

 

[Bkone7466]

When Cal was hired, I remember reading a Greg Doyle article about how the rest of college basketball should be very afraid. Kentucky was going to win multiple championships and dominate the game. I’m not unhappy with the Cal era but I will admit I’m disappointed.

 

[oldsports_]

When Cal was hired, I remember reading a Greg Doyle article about how the rest of college basketball should be very afraid. Kentucky was going to win multiple championships and dominate the game. I’m not unhappy with the Cal era but I will admit I’m disappointed.

We were probably going to win it all last year. So there's that.

 

[MrBlonde88]

Dude college basketball as a whole is on its last leg. Who knows in the next few years that we even care lol

you can say that for all of American sports not just cbb

 

[Bkone7466]

Exactly. No AD’s, Randles, KAT’s, etc makes all the difference.

Relying on non-elite freshmen has been the difference. That's why I still think this current group could do good things because Boston and Clarke are a notch above most of the freshmen we've had here the last few years.

I know it’s only been 2 games but they sure haven’t looked like it. Fox, Monk, on and on you knew very fast these guys were a notch above. I haven’t seen that yet with these two.

 

[North Carolina Blue Wildcat]

Resume A (5 seasons)
131-40 record
2 Elite Eights
2 Outright SEC Titles
9-5 NCAA Tournament Record
2 SEC Tournament Titles

Resume B (5 seasons)
140-39 record
2 Elite Eights
2 Outright SEC Titles (3 Overall)
9-4 NCAA Tournament Record
2 SEC Tournament Titles

Resume A: Tubby Smith’s Last 5 Years at Kentucky
Resume B: John Calipari’s Last 5 Years at Kentucky

 

[DraftCat]

Resume A (5 seasons)
131-40 record
2 Elite Eights
2 Outright SEC Titles
9-5 NCAA Tournament Record
2 SEC Tournament Titles

Resume B (5 seasons)
140-39 record
2 Elite Eights
2 Outright SEC Titles (3 Overall)
9-4 NCAA Tournament Record
2 SEC Tournament Titles

Resume A: Tubby Smith’s Last 5 Years at Kentucky
Resume B: John Calipari’s Last 5 Years at Kentucky

Difference is Tubby left us with crap recruits. I'm sure the same thing will happen with Cal but at least he's bringing in hope unlike the crap Tubby was giving us

 

[Madcat62]

Why use that ti m e frame?
We had a Final 4 appearance locked up last year.

we had nothing locked up last year

 

[MrBlonde88]

Does anyone give two shits about the glorified scrimmages that they're trying to pretend is a real college season? I mean really

 

[CB3UK]

We've been spiraling into mediocrity ever since Wisconsin and everyone outside the program can see it, those of us inside the program are the only ones arguing about it. Some of us are facing up to reality. If Cal changes his mindset, yeah, we can get back to kicking ass and taking names. The reality is we've seen 5 yrs of mediocrity. Does no one remember how miserable last year's team was to watch at times. Then we have a break through against Florida (which was a hell of a comeback, no doubt) and all of a sudden it's "well I think we're finally back on track and ready to run to the title!" What the **** basketball were you people watching that makes you truly believe that in your heart of hearts? Such rampant naivety. Wake the **** up already.

 

[Madcat62]

Difference is Tubby left us with crap recruits. I'm sure the same thing will happen with Cal but at least he's bringing in hope unlike the crap Tubby was giving us

hope maybe results not so much

 

[UKRuppster]

This is the way I look at it: if the team is going to turn over completely every year, and I’m not going to get to really know any of the players, then we better be producing on the court at a high level. Otherwise, the model doesn’t work for me.

At Kentucky, the expectation is producing on the court at an extremely high level every year. It doesn't matter if the recruiting is more Tubby-like where you get many more multiple year players or more Cal-like where one and done is a very common theme.

 

[DraftCat]

It is what it is. We all know Cal program doesn't work unless he has the top 1-3 recruits on the team. He's failed miserably since 2015 at getting the elite elite guys.

 

[warrior-cat]

Cal caught fire early and surprised with the one and done's now, other coaches have figured out how to rattle us early and are doing that with more frequency. Plus, the talent level of our one and done's aren't as good as before.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Difference is Tubby left us with crap recruits. I'm sure the same thing will happen with Cal but at least he's bringing in hope unlike the crap Tubby was giving us

What do you think UK’s roster is going to look like when Cal leaves? If it follows the norm, there will be nobody returning for the next coach. That is going to be a 100% complete rebuild.

 

[DraftCat]

What do you think UK’s roster is going to look like when Cal leaves? If it follows the norm, there will be nobody returning for the next coach. That is going to be a 100% complete rebuild.

I think you misread my post. I'm in agreement Cal last roster will likely be all in the NBA leaving us a bare cubbard.

The difference between Tubby and Cal is the roster construction based on 4 year players and 1 n done. Tubby with his recruiting left us in far worse shape when you consider the talent he left us. Cal replacement will be bringing in mostly freshman I assume.

 

[fisherscatfan]

I think you misread my post. I'm in agreement Cal last roster will likely be all in the NBA leaving us a bare cubbard.

The difference between Tubby and Cal is the roster construction based on 4 year players and 1 n done. Tubby with his recruiting left us in far worse shape when you consider the talent he left us. Cal replacement will be bringing in mostly freshman I assume.

I understand but do not see the difference or make distinctions. When Cal leaves, because of his lack of building continuity, the cupboard will be bare. That is going to be a rebuild job just the same.

 

[ManitouDan]

Why use that ti m e frame?
We had a Final 4 appearance locked up last year.

Yeah that strong performance on senior night against UT had me convinced as well

 

[seccats04]

add in failed to get a 1 seed. i went back as far as the early 1990's and couldnt find 5 year stretches without a 1 seed for KU, Duke, or UNC.

But, but, but the regular season doesn’t count. We only play for March. 🤢