I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I'll help you out.
G means go
Y means yourself.
I'll let you guess what the F stands for.
Billion's UK games website is gone thanks for the copyright nazis :(
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I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I'll help you out.
G means go
Y means yourself.
I'll let you guess what the F stands for.
UKVisitor, my grandad always told me this.
Never miss a good opportunity to shut up.
I failed at that, maybe you can succeed.
Have a good day
Never miss a good opportunity to shut up.
I failed at that, maybe you can succeed.
Have a good day
I'll give you one guess as to who is partially responsible.
It's got the signs all over it.
When did I step on your toes? When a poster tells you what the letter F means in thread, it is not received as a voice of support.
Or maybe the poster didn't want to type a bannable word on a message board.
Here is your reminder: Mega, Never help me decipher internet acronyms.
I won't include not asking you for anything, cause sometimes life puts me into situations I'd never expect. I might need your help some day, and I'll probably ask if I think you can help, but it won't be about acronyms.
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So, the head of the SEC shuts down Billionth but tells UNC that they are all good? Yeah, makes total sense to a complete idiot.
Going after Megaupload =/= to what happened here. Billions' site and its UK games alone were singled out.
Exactly, what's the point of owning the claims to the content if you don't use it?
UNC is not even in the SEC's jurisdiction!! Whatever goes on with UNC is the ACC's to deal with.
False. My post was about the Vault at Wildcats Thunder who used Megaupload for the games and copyright was the same situation as here. You obviously have no idea what happened with Wildcats Thunder about 8 years ago. Copyright holders and soon after the Feds went after MU where copyrighted material of all kinds were targeted for being hosted on their servers. Members were not charged to download games at WT. I do know the situation because I was a site administrator for 3 years there when it happened. Copyrighted material was hosted on Megaupload, just so happened to be the site BWO uploaded the games to when they were in the Video Vault at Wildcats Thunder which you probably have no idea what that was but at one time was essentially UKBasketballive in of itself. BWO works with Billionth on these games. At Wildcats Thunder, had a member by the name of Kygoff who helped there with the Vault and I believe he was a member here at one time. The Vault is not open anymore at Wildcats Thunder. It died out and has been that way since the Megaupload incident.Going after Megaupload =/= to what happened here. Billions' site and its UK games alone were singled out.
Know what you're talking about first before making statements like this. I used those videos to make highlight clips on YouTube and the same people from the SEC went after me shutting my accounts and links down with YouTube. My clips were also backed up on Megaupload and other filesharing sites that were removed by the claimants for copyright infringement too. They did this to another guy as well, UKCAT8FAN on YouTube who makes famous clips. I figured out how to capture video from my TV to computer with a Hauppauge device in 2015 and have lost accounts due to copyright each of the 3 calendar years since. It's a simple hobby of mine to kill time yet people get ass hurt over something small. Totally disregarding Fair Use in this country which I was abiding by only using small segments of the program. Never once monetized my videos. So no, it's not an isolated event but rather one of the most notable ones where the SEC has chosen to throw their weight around. It obviously blows but they are doing this to everyone. You missed the gist of my post. It was to inform those who are not in the know that this is not the first time a UK Basketball Game archive has been effected but has revived before. Should they want to deal with this head ache going forward and pursue the dream for us fans, a fix is not going to come overnight.
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Yep, amazing the pedestal so many fans put these people on and they have run over so many during their “reign”.
Pompous, conceited bastards.
It's a shame they did this. Are you able to still do the live streams of our games?
Sankey was chair and continues to serve on the Committee on Infractions. I have no respect for him whatsoever.
Billionth I have always told you how great you were and how fortunate we were to have you. Many great memories I had watching that feed. I understand totally why you did what you did. The fat ass fools on top with the corporate bucks and crap want to twist everyones hand in buying something that they are making money hand over fist on. Thank you again. SEC officials who contacted you can frig off.
So judging by hints some think KSR is partially to blame?
Also, if someone puts all the content on a site, States that they don’t own it and gives all credit to uk and the sec and they don’t make any money off of the site then how can they be made to remove the content?
Also, if someone puts all the content on a site, States that they don’t own it and gives all credit to uk and the sec and they don’t make any money off of the site then how can they be made to remove the content?
Does anyone have a link to bwo's stream? I lost the new link
Here is a link for the game.
I do in fact "know what I'm talking about" and you misunderstood what I'm saying...the difference was that then MegaUpload itself was taken down and as a result everyone who used it to do history preservation things like Wildcat Thunder ALL went down...in that case, Wildcat Thunder themselves weren't singled out for deletion....EVERYONE who used MegaUpload ended up getting their sites zapped....Wildcat Thunder was simply one of the many many (to use a military term) "collateral damage".
This time however, Billionth's website alone was singled out by the Copyright Nazis when all he was doing was mostly preserving history....I can understand not being allowed to post games from the current season right after the game but there was no reason why they also had to make him take down the history stuff.
I did not misunderstand anything. You missed the parallels of the situation that links were being removed for copyright infringement by the claimants whether it's YouTube or Megaupload. Megaupload was just a more known commodity for content storage and the Feds went after them because users would be charged for more storage space/faster download speeds, not necessarily for selling the content users uploaded. They weren't advertising they hosted movies, music, ball games and in fact in the terms of use agreement warn not to which no one abides by regardless if it's YouTube or whoever. To my knowledge, it should be considered "Fair Use" if you are not profiting off the content. To my knowledge, their executives at Megaupload were still fighting the courts up until 2017 and I lost track of the status of their battle since then.
BWO had to find different streaming services on multiple occasions while at Wildcats Thunder whether it be justin.tv numerous times back in the day with multiple accounts banned for streaming the games live. YouTube has an audio/visual content database copyright holders can upload their content too. If you upload a video that matches their content, it can be flagged to be blocked instantaneously in any country. Even over a small video file. To say the SEC hasn't targeted others such as Wildcats Thunder, my YouTube Channels or UKCAT8FAN's numerous channels is simply inaccurate. You misconstrued my post in away to make it look like it's just about Megaupload. It was about Wildcats Thunder in general with the copyright nazi's who just so happened to use Megaupload's services. Unless you were a staff member at Wildcats Thunder or an active member at the time who used BWO's streams at WT who experienced streams getting shutdown midgame, you're not going to know all of the details that happened there. Not just game links for the record. The Vault no longer exists since the 1st game archive for BBN went down to due the Megaupload situation. As a staff at Wildcats Thunder, we tried to remain incognito from the Copyright Holders and it did not always workout. Live Streaming went down by the claimants several times. Vault Access was restricted to Active Members or those granted special access to the subboard only. This was to prevent links from being up for grabs put members would come straight over here to RR and post game links. It pissed off the fellow staff members because games were intended for WT members only initially. The Vault is what gave WT it's distinction over other message boards. Once the decision was made to restrict access from the public to active members and then Megaupload happened, site traffic hit a downward spiral fast.
My 1st post in this thread just stated how WT experienced a similar situation before but the rebirth of game archived emerged again to give you all some perspective that this is nothing that can't be overcome. Dealing with the hard work and headaches is a monumental task. I'm afraid that you are the one who missed the point of my post of my initial post. No where did I state whether WT's experiences was worse or not than that UKBasketballive's shutdown. Don't know where that is coming from.
Billionth and BWO can never be thanked enough for how much work has gone into their sites over the years. I have donated to them as a token of my appreciation in the past. There's a lot of risk and reward that comes having YouTube accounts, game archives and streaming services but in the back of your mind, know the possibility of this happening always looms. It freaking sucks ass big time. No one here can even fathom the frustration Billionth and BWO feel. Don't take my posts as me being against game archives, I'm the biggest advocate and beneficiary of these services. I'm just here offering the view point as someone who has been targeted by the SEC for the same BS. It's all copyright holders. Ever seen a music video on YouTube where they block the audio, put up a different track or leave the video with no sound? Same thing. I've put slideshows of pictures on YouTube before and they disabled the song. Even had the NFL, MLB and NBA remove accounts I've made with highlights uploaded to them. Major League Baseball Advanced Media is the absolute worst at it while the NBA over the years has less stingy about the use of their clips. I had an 8 second Monster Truck Clip from old Louisville Motor Speedway get taken down by FOX Sports and they did not even broadcast Monster Jam back in the day. Needle dick bastards.
I think it's absolute bullshit they trashed all of their hard work, just threw it away without reaching some kind of a deal. They could have claimed the work as their own, charged a nominal fee as if it was Netflix or just make money off the hits the site got. Oh hell no, they just ruin a good thing for everyone. It would have been a successful opportunity to make money off the site but since they are too lazy to do the work of Billionth/BWO, the SEC gets ass hurt and just shut it down. Like a little child crying that another kid is playing with their toys they weren't even using. I can understand how if the SEC did come in and take it all over how Billionth/BWO would feel someone taking the credit for their work. At the same time, seeing all of your work just suddenly disappear hurts so damn bad too. There was a thread about this earlier in the week in which I stated that fans of all sports would only dream on an archive such as this to watch replays of their respective teams.
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And you supplied a couple of them also. Only us original sources of these games understand. The others get them from the third or fourth sources and then become experts.
In December 1977 my Christmas present was an RCA Video Tape Recorder. The price was nearly $1,300 dollars. A two hour tape was $20. It was expensive to keep a basketball game. If I had been rich my collection would be a lot better as I only kept the good ones. The first game that I recorded was the UK December 31, 1977 Notre Dame game. Me and the gang watched it twice because we could not believe you could record a game and enjoy it again.
On the copyright issue, one must remember that you can keep it and use it for yourself without any problem; however, the minute you "broadcast" copyrighted material you put yourself at risk. Then if you take money for providing the service you are really putting yourself at risk.
CBS and ESPN pay big bucks for the rights to the games so one must expect them to protect what they have paid for, i.e. the franchise.
I hate to see the site pulled down even though I don't use it; however, I understand why.
Funny to me that these big ol' fattys at the top can keep on chasing the poor of us to not be able to "steal" (laughable) watching a game. They can spend all this money on lawyers, goofs and other troglodytes but will NEVER stop the true power in which is the internet. Keep on keepin' on boys. In the end this looks bad on the ones who "provide our entertainment"... yeah, they provide it.. You mean the kids who go to college and do not get paid provide it while you all point a camera at the court and do so many other hard earned things like provide two or 3 talking heads to chat about a game that most of us do not need you to provide. Paying those folks more than they are worth as well. While the ones at the bottom of the pole who don't buy into your pseudo-capitalism struggle to make ends meet because of ethics. This is what is taking the love out of the game for me, at least. CORPORATE GREED... Really, how much you guys saving in the long run after all those expenses.
FRAT summary : Frig off copyright claimers, you are lame and are taking away from people who most likely couldn't afford your product anyway.
FRAT summary : Frig off copyright claimers, you are lame and are taking away from people who most likely couldn't afford your product anyway.
Typical anti-capitalism rant.
Why don't you move to Venezuela where socialism reigns supreme? Screw CORPORATE GREED, enjoy equality!
Your statement "Frig off copyright claimers, you are lame and are taking away from people who most likely couldn't afford your product anyway." means that you are suggesting that if you can't afford something, just steal it.
Wow.
I suppose you steal movies also.
I got the same Christmas present in 77 and the Notre Dame game was also my first recorded UK game.
Me too; I hope for the time being he continues to convert and archive more vintage games for when he can host them again at least. There must be some sort of way to be able to host the vintage games...maybe have a five or ten year rule or something (where only games at least five or ten years old can be uploaded)?
the answer to this is simple....multiple people with fast upload speeds need to also have the archive to be able to re-upload to different hosting services...very simple problem to solve. he could easily burn the mp4 video files to dvd and mail them out, or upload them to a private server password protected that only certain people who agree to archive and re-upload have the password, and have them download the archived games for future sharing. very simple.
Corporation should work with sports fan like Billionth and start a website for UK fans.
They can even have none VIP ones, where you have to watch commercials. Or VIP where you can bypass commercial.
Seems like free money for corporation and Billionth. Instead of just stopping it.
They can even have none VIP ones, where you have to watch commercials. Or VIP where you can bypass commercial.
Seems like free money for corporation and Billionth. Instead of just stopping it.
I was at this game! Junior in high school. NBC's kick-off national telecast for the 77-78 season. I remember talking to my Dad the next day as he had watched the game on TV. He said the TV cameras showed Digger 857 times during the course of the game, while focusing on Joe B. only 3 or 4 times. Figures. I remember vividly how NBC was "ate up" with Digger. Always showing him squatting on the sideline in front of the ND bench....wearing those silly carnations. I also know how Joe B. owned Digger. I think Joe was 9-2 against Digger!..........NBC's obsession with Digger be damned. Man, I would love to watch THAT game again!!
The duration of copyright is generally computed the same way as for works created on or after January 1, 1978: life plus 70 years or 95 or 120 years, depending on the nature of authorship.
Videos uploading on foreign servers with links posted on a forum with restricted access to registered members like at Wildcats Thunder back in the day. Also, requiring a post of "thanks" before the link is visible would force the copyright Gods to go to more effort to find the links.
