How long has it been since we had more UK fans attend an away football game than a home basketball game? I think the passion for basketball is on the wane.
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I kind of agree too. I am tired of seeing this inconsistency snd the same excuses (young, short bench). I like being relevant every year, but dont push the players away so quickly. Jmo.I know that my passion for basketball is almost completely gone. I think the one and done and Kentuckys heavy usage of it has soured me on basketball. I agree with Kyle Macy about UK basketball
This is where I am at. Watching last night as the team went through the motions I just sat there not concerned if we won or lost. I can't believe I typed this I think college basketball is in big trouble nation wide. .I kind of agree too. I am tired of seeing this inconsistency snd the same excuses (young, short bench). I like being relevant every year, but dont push the players away so quickly. Jmo.
I feel that you are correct. I now only watch the big games even on TV. I haven't watched one second of any game except the Michigan State game - and said to some other fans, while being laughed at, that I wasn't as impressed with UK, as I thought Michigan State really played poorly- unfortunately - it looks like my observation was spot on.How long has it been since we had more UK fans attend an away football game than a home basketball game? I think the passion for basketball is on the wane.
I will admit that I enjoyed college basketball before the one and done era more. We had a good idea what the team was going to look like when they had to stay through their junior year. Watching players like Ewing etc for 3 years was exciting. The reality is, the NCAA has no control over the OAD era, and the colleges who could had to adjust to the OAD era to get the best players. Every one blames Cal for OAD but he was just quicker to adjust. Others who do the same thing, many paying for services, but Cal is the one the media jumps on. Seems like Coach K had the greatest recruiting class ever to barely get to the Elite 8. Imagine what the media would have done to Cal if it had happened to him.I know that my passion for basketball is almost completely gone. I think the one and done and Kentuckys heavy usage of it has soured me on basketball. I agree with Kyle Macy about UK basketball
It’s been in trouble for a while IMO. After we lost to Evansville there wasn’t a lot of discussion about it nationally that I gathered. Twitter was active that night, but didn’t mention it then. One person at work brought it up, but that’s it. Not many people care about college basketball until March. I know Kentuckians do, but it’s not a huge sport in the regular season on a national level.This is where I am at. Watching last night as the team went through the motions I just sat there not concerned if we won or lost. I can't believe I typed this I think college basketball is in big trouble national wide. .
Personally, I think expanding the playoff will dilute the regular season, much like we see in college basketball. I think games aren’t interesting for people because they don’t matter. If the same setup were to occur in college football, I think people would lose interest as well.I feel that you are correct. I now only watch the big games even on TV. I haven't watched one second of any game except the Michigan State game - and said to some other fans, while being laughed at, that I wasn't as impressed with UK, as I thought Michigan State really played poorly- unfortunately - it looks like my observation was spot on.
Getting back to Football, I bought season tickets the last two years - but guess what - I live 800 miles away- I can't even give them away to most games! I think that the power five schools are going to have to realize that most people don't want to watch Tenn. Martin! It's time for college football to look more like the basketball model in the sense that, you can lose 2 or 3 games and still play for the National Championship! If every game was against a power 5 school, then the games become more important, interesting and the teams make more money as well.
It's actually not that hard to do - well it would be because of the fight from the existing powers to remain on top forever! But the scenario would be something like this. Have 68 to 80 teams in the power 5 group. Expand the conferences to either 16 teams and two divisions or 10 team conferences. Have a total of 8 divisions and or conferences. Have the teams play everyone in their division plus two rotating teams from the other division of the conference. The teams with the best division records and the ten team league champion go into the playoffs. So, a team could lose all 3 power five out of conference games and even one or two conference games - and still make the playoffs! Realisticly we know that will probably not happen - but look at the excitement at the end of the season for a lot more teams!
The regular season matchups could be Kentucky versus Oklahoma, Kentucky versus Clemson, Kentucky versus Ohio State and then 9 conference games. I know that is exaggerated, but you get the point. Every senior would have the opportunity to play against every team in the conference over his career - a great thing for both the players and the fans. Would you being going to see Clemson this weekend instead of not going to see Tenn. Martin? Tickets would generate more income for every school and lets face it ticket prices are not cheap for the better games - but - look which games are prices more and which games have higher attendance - its the expensive tickets!
I know it will not happen, but overall records wouldn't be such a measuring stick and early season injuries would have a lot less affect on the final season situation. The time has come for the power 5's to take over football and run it more like this. The NCAA is almost dead anyway- and the new rules as to payment of players might end up being the final straw.
Go Big Blue!
How long has it been since we had more UK fans attend an away football game than a home basketball game? I think the passion for basketball is on the wane.
My passion for sports overall is on the wane & its so expensive to go to a game in Lexington for me. That said, I live in Nashville area and didn't go Saturday. I enjoyed watching on my big screen in the warm house with all the cheap beer and food I could want.
The older I get the more I understand living vicariously through 18-21 year olds over a game is not healthy.
I grew up playing football though so I enjoy the sport better overall.
I could have written the exact same thing. This is my feelings exactly. I used to watch college basketball every night, regardless of who was playing and would never miss a UK game. I can't remember the last time I watched more than 10 minutes of a game outside of the NCAA Tournament and I watched maybe 30 minutes of the game last night. Still root my Cats on and still love them, just don't have nearly the interest level I used to.College basketball has been dying a slow death for a decade plus now IMO. I know that I grew up in the 80s and 90s and loved UK/college hoops more than anything, but I've quit having an interest in it a while ago, which is something I never imagined would have ever happened. Don't get me wrong, I still hope the Cats win every game, but the intense love that I once had for the sport is just no longer there. I don't blame Cal at all, it's just the AAU, on and done, etc culture as a whole that has ruined the sport. Again JMO.
I'm not sure of your point here - or maybe I didn't explain my self clearly? I am saying 8 teams - actually that is almost what we have now - think about it? Sec East Versus SEC West - winner to the final four - so it would be the same thing in reality. The difference is in non conference games we actually play teams you want to see - but they non conference games would have little if any bearing on the playoffs. I am just saying take your conference champions and/or division champions and play for the championship. Why this works is it basically already in play. Pac 12, ACC, Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 all have conference championship games. Those games become the playoff games. No increase in games played and really no change in bowls- just you have playoff teams determined by actual games, not opinions!Personally, I think expanding the playoff will dilute the regular season, much like we see in college basketball. I think games aren’t interesting for people because they don’t matter. If the same setup were to occur in college football, I think people would lose interest as well.
If Alabama has a playoff spot locked up already the Iron Bowl and SEC championship would mean nothing. It would lose some of its luster because a lot of times that game has huge playoff implications, or BCS implications, or determines who wins the SEC West. Without that, I just don’t see how that game would be a huge deal to a lot of people outside of those fan bases. We’d lose out on a memory like the kick 6.
The highest the playoff should go is 8. Anything higher makes the regular season much less entertaining IMO because even with 8 we have a good idea on who will get into the playoffs. Maybe we’d let UCF in, but it’d be 15 or so teams competing for 8 spots compared to now with 8-10 teams competing for 4 spots.
The less you value the regular season, the less people will watch. I don’t want to see the regular season lose it’s importance like it has in college basketball.
I 'think' that I know the name of one player on the team. I know that times, and my brain, have changed, but I maintained season tickets for about 15 years, and knew the name of all 10-12 players.How long has it been since we had more UK fans attend an away football game than a home basketball game? I think the passion for basketball is on the wane.
You contradicted yourself by stating your wouldn’t have happened 10 years ago. Saying you don’t have same passion.note: this is directed to NoDef.
I'm not sure of your point here - or maybe I didn't explain my self clearly? I am saying 8 teams - actually that is almost what we have now - think about it? Sec East Versus SEC West - winner to the final four - so it would be the same thing in reality. The difference is in non conference games we actually play teams you want to see - but they non conference games would have little if any bearing on the playoffs. I am just saying take your conference champions and/or division champions and play for the championship. Why this works is it basically already in play. Pac 12, ACC, Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 all have conference championship games. Those games become the playoff games. No increase in games played and really no change in bowls- just you have playoff teams determined by actual games, not opinions!
Go Big Blue!
Getting back to Football, I bought season tickets the last two years - but guess what - I live 800 miles away- I can't even give them away to most games! I think that the power five schools are going to have to realize that most people don't want to watch Tenn. Martin! It's time for college football to look more like the basketball model in the sense that, you can lose 2 or 3 games and still play for the National Championship! If every game was against a power 5 school, then the games become more important, interesting and the teams make more money as well.
I’ve had season tickets once, two season ago but doubt i’ll Get them again under the current format of games. Had great seats and only cost $1600 for the pair which on the surface isn’t that bad. We had 7 games that season and actually 4 good games from what I recall, Florida, TN, ole miss and Louisville. But that’s still $400/game when you consider the other games are hardly worth watching much less paying over $200/game just for the tickets themselves and not even figuring in gas from Louisville and concessions. It was more of a pain and without a parking pass made it even less enjoyable. I’ll just buy tickets now to the games I’d like to attebd
I think this game will be interesting from the POV of getting to see young guys plays. Sorta like the Spring Game. Those are worth the $1-2 UK charges.I watch a bigger percentage of the football games, but I probably won't watch the entire game next week.
I think this game will be interesting from the POV of getting to see young guys plays. Sorta like the Spring Game. Those are worth the $1-2 UK charges.
Do it more like the nfl model. Have two conferences, North and South. Within your confence, have smaller divisions with 6 or so teams.I think that the power five schools are going to have to realize that most people don't want to watch Tenn. Martin! It's time for college football to look more like the basketball model in the sense that, you can lose 2 or 3 games and still play for the National Championship!
The regular season matchups could be Kentucky versus Oklahoma, Kentucky versus Clemson, Kentucky versus Ohio State and then 9 conference games. I know that is exaggerated, but you get the point. Every senior would have the opportunity to play against every team in the conference over his career - a great thing for both the players and the fans. Would you being going to see Clemson this weekend instead of not going to see Tenn. Martin? Tickets would generate more income for every school and lets face it ticket prices are not cheap for the better games - but - look which games are prices more and which games have higher attendance - its the expensive tickets!
I know it will not happen, but overall records wouldn't be such a measuring stick and early season injuries would have a lot less affect on the final season situation. The time has come for the power 5's to take over football and run it more like this. The NCAA is almost dead anyway- and the new rules as to payment of players might end up being the final straw.
Go Big Blue!
This. If the Cats weren't in the running for a bowl game, I wouldn't go this weekend. But as they are, I'll be right there. While some fans don't care about the bowls, for me it's the most exciting time of the entire sports season....even topping the ncaa bball tournament. I love watching the various bowl games.Personally, I think expanding the playoff will dilute the regular season, much like we see in college basketball. I think games aren’t interesting for people because they don’t matter. If the same setup were to occur in college football, I think people would lose interest as well.
If Alabama has a playoff spot locked up already the Iron Bowl and SEC championship would mean nothing. It would lose some of its luster because a lot of times that game has huge playoff implications, or BCS implications, or determines who wins the SEC West. Without that, I just don’t see how that game would be a huge deal to a lot of people outside of those fan bases. We’d lose out on a memory like the kick 6.
The highest the playoff should go is 8. Anything higher makes the regular season much less entertaining IMO because even with 8 we have a good idea on who will get into the playoffs. Maybe we’d let UCF in, but it’d be 15 or so teams competing for 8 spots compared to now with 8-10 teams competing for 4 spots.
The less you value the regular season, the less people will watch. I don’t want to see the regular season lose it’s importance like it has in college basketball.
This. If the Cats weren't in the running for a bowl game, I wouldn't go this weekend. But as they are, I'll be right there. While some fans don't care about the bowls, for me it's the most exciting time of the entire sports season....even topping the ncaa bball tournament. I love watching the various bowl games.
No one like OAD but that’s the system now. ALL of the best players want to be OAD. Do you not want the best players?.I hate OAD. Ive always liked football and baseball more but the OAD has me not nearly as passionate about basketball as I used to be.
People keep saying this. I just dont care. Im not an NBA fan at all. And we arent getting the best. We're getting the 2nd tier down. And I would rather develop guys over 4 yrs to be a cohesive team than get the best freshmen. We dont get to reap a y of the benefits of their growth, we just come up short.No one like OAD but that’s the system now. ALL of the best players want to be OAD. Do you not want the best players?.
Same.I know that my passion for basketball is almost completely gone. I think the one and done and Kentuckys heavy usage of it has soured me on basketball. I agree with Kyle Macy about UK basketball
It has to start with Cal. As long as he's a Players first and not Kentucky First coach It'll NEVER change.People keep saying this. I just dont care. Im not an NBA fan at all. And we arent getting the best. We're getting the 2nd tier down. And I would rather develop guys over 4 yrs to be a cohesive team than get the best freshmen. We dont get to reap a y of the benefits of their growth, we just come up short.
So no, I dont want to watch us keep shooting ourselves in the foot by turning over the roster in the name of talent while scheduling poorly so they can acclimate, and want us to change our philosophy.
No one like OAD but that’s the system now. ALL of the best players want to be OAD. Do you not want the best players?.
Exactly.No one like OAD but that’s the system now. ALL of the best players want to be OAD. Do you not want the best players?.