Arkansas beat Michigan
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Pope's my coach too. I'm just passing along statistics. If stats about Arkansas' 3 point shooting aren't to your liking maybe you're the one with an agenda.
As far as people caring about Arkansas or not, sure a lot will. Ex coach. Ex players. It's natural to be interested. I watched every second just for the purpose of hoping they would lose. Petty or not I don't care. There may be a game one day that I want them to win but that day hasn't arrived. Wild swing in that game. Arkansas was down 16 and then went up 15.
I have no agenda.
I watched Wagner start every game last year clanking layups and 3’s while Reed and Dilly came off the bench.
We all know how this will end for Arkansas.
The future for my team KY looks bright!
If Fland or Thiero get in foul trouble it’s over for them.
On a side note, anyone else walk away super impressed with Danny Wolf? If Michigan underperforms this year and he transfers, then I'd love for Pope to pick him up. Seems like a great stretch four. Him and Wilson would be scary!
Checking in to see what you fellas are saying about the Piggies.
That crooked nosed dude from MI was unreal. A 7ft point guard. I wish we had someone like him.
We are getting better mainly due to the fact we are getting healthier. They could not stay in front of Fland last night.
Djs best game. If Nelly ever gets rolling watch out. This teams ceiling is high. By conference we will be 100% healthy.
Z just cannot guard. Our D broke down everytime he was in last night. But he was hobbled also. Thiero and Richmond both had the flu.
Brazil won the game.
Going to be a rough year in the SEC.
That crooked nosed dude from MI was unreal. A 7ft point guard. I wish we had someone like him.
We are getting better mainly due to the fact we are getting healthier. They could not stay in front of Fland last night.
Djs best game. If Nelly ever gets rolling watch out. This teams ceiling is high. By conference we will be 100% healthy.
Z just cannot guard. Our D broke down everytime he was in last night. But he was hobbled also. Thiero and Richmond both had the flu.
Brazil won the game.
Going to be a rough year in the SEC.
It truly is infuriating! Cal used that strategy his entire tenure at UK! He even did it at Memphis! See that 2008 title game! Crazy thing is that he almost always had the more talented team. Usually by a large margin. It’ll always be baffling to me.
Dude can play, and handles the ball so well for a 7 footers. Smooth and fluid. Can pass. He would be good in Popes system.
Very bizarre game. Michigan up big and chokes away double digit lead. Then Arkansas goes up big and does the same but hangs on to win by 2.
They were a poorly designed 3.7-sec to go play from OT or a loss. Mich was down 18pts and had it in their grasp. The two big white boys were scoring at will. There was no inside defense at all....like Cal coached with us. They got abused and dunked on for the whole second half. They just dug too deep a hole to win. It would have been glorious if that last shot hat fallen or that lob for a dunk not been blocked. Cal sucks but he dodged a bullet.
Arkansas is going to be a tough out. They have a good team. One question with any current Cal team from game to game will be who is hurt and who is not. If they are healthy, they are going to be tough either getting out to a large lead and then holding on or making a big come back. Anyone dismissing them is just not being honest.
It was a typical Cal game. When you shoot well you win. They are very talented but having no offense late in games other than Fland or (insert flavor of the year) dribbling around and then forcing a shot will bite them. That and Cal teams still for whatever reason can't keep anyone from getting straight line drives to the basket.
Cal called that TO toward the end there. He “drew up” a play. Literally all they did was give the ball to Fland for an ISO, highly contested midrange jumper! Lmfao he’s TERRIBLE at strategic basketball! Absolutely horrendous!
Arky has a 7 minute stretch where they made 4-5 three pointers and forced what seemed like a million turnovers.
Once they finally came back down to earth the margin was too great for Michigan but they still almost pulled it out.
It's the same story if the athletes are hitting they are pretty damn good... but usually they are missing more so than not. Hell even Wagner hit two 3's last night
Once they finally came back down to earth the margin was too great for Michigan but they still almost pulled it out.
It's the same story if the athletes are hitting they are pretty damn good... but usually they are missing more so than not. Hell even Wagner hit two 3's last night
You know. I though...is he just doing this because all of us "Bennies" expect a coach to design something. He has all these assistants around him that apparently do nothing STILL. Dusty would use up his whole timeout huddled up with his assistants and then run over to tell UM what to do. At least he takes suggestions.
The "slow down then tense up" part is the signature. One always followed the other.
Some will say, that's two close wins in a row Cal pulled off. Completely missing that neither one should have had to be a "Close Win" to begin with. Another Cal signature.
This is a good post. If Aidoo can get back to where he was last year (1st team ALL-SEC), combined with the athleticism of Brazile, the Hogs will tough to beat if they shoot the ball reasonably well. I look for them to improve as the season moves along. The SEC, top-to-bottom, is a ridiculously-talented conference this season. Everybody better come to play, especially on the road. GO CATS !!
Here are Arkansas' stats, if interested. I've not watched them very much at all, but the times I've watched them ... they seemed like brick-layers, but their shooting stats are not really that bad ... a very big surprise to me, to say the least.
Still, though, I think they'll struggle mightily against zone defense ... but can regularly get to the rack against m2m.
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I'll take that bet, as much as you want. 2 of the 3 are currently below 40% and they haven't dipped their toes in the SEC yet.
Assuming you get healthier as the year goes on is usually not how it works
Refs just mailing it in these days. Half the possessions has some guy trying a Eurostep, or putting the ball on their hip and taking extra steps, or putting their hands under the ball, technically palming it.
they must be the league's kryptonite as that is over a third of the league's total losses to this point (19 as of 12/10)
I guess Bama has two of those 7 (purdue and oregon)
Arkansas lost to Illinois
Ole Miss lost to Purdue
South Carolina lost to Indiana
Texas lost to Ohio State
Texas AM lost to Oregon
So over half those losses came to their top two teams in Purdue and Oregon.
I 100% agree with you. Percentages will probably drop for everybody in conference play.
Besides Brea, will we have anyone who shoots 40% for the season ?? I sure hope so, but I'm not sure it will happen ...
| Career | ||||||
| 20-21 | 21-22 | 22-23 | 23-24 | 24-25 | Overall | |
| BREA | 0.355 | 0.423 | 0.370 | 0.498 | 0.551 | 0.444 |
| ALMONOR | DNP | 0.343 | 0.381 | 0.394 | 0.385 | 0.385 |
| OWEH | DNP | DNP | 0.250 | 0.377 | 0.360 | 0.366 |
| CARR | 0.286 | 0.405 | 0.311 | 0.371 | 0.357 | 0.345 |
| BUTLER | 0.290 | 0.329 | 0.342 | 0.302 | 0.333 | 0.322 |
| ROBINSON | 0.286 | 0.326 | 0.343 | 0.354 | 0.316 | 0.340 |
| CHANDLER | DNP | DNP | DNP | DNP | 0.273 | 0.273 |
| KRIISA | 0.368 | 0.336 | 0.366 | 0.424 | 0.263 | 0.362 |
| PERRY | DNP | DNP | DNP | DNP | 0.250 | 0.250 |
| NOAH | DNP | DNP | DNP | DNP | 0.250 | 0.250 |
| GARRISON | DNP | DNP | DNP | 0.000 | 0.143 | 0.143 |
| WILLIAMS | 0.00 | 0.500 | 0.267 | 0.333 | 0.000 | 0.308 |
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Some of us did like Thiero from the time he signed with UK. Many, however, didn't. I would take him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I pretty sure this is correct, per my review of the Rivals commitment lists for Kentucky:
In Calipari's fifteen (15) years here, he only signed four (4) 3-star players: Willis, Hawkins, Thiero and Hart.
Mark Pope signed Trent Noah in his first class ... he was a 3-star.
So ... three (3) of the five (5) 3-stars signed over the last sixteen (16) years have been from Kentucky.
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It drove me crazy! When you have the most talent push the pace. Get as many possessions in the game as possible. Limited possessions gives the less talented team a chance.
It’s like having a Ferrari and slowing it down when you’re racing against a Ford Pinto.
Guy was and is a buffoon!!
I admit I wanted Arkansas to suck just to feel secure that Cal leaving was a good thing and to know I was right in my opinion that he had to go. But I no longer need that source of security. We know we have an awesome coach whether or not we beat Arkansas head to head or go farther than them in the tourney. They’re just another team to me now. I want them to do well against non SEC teams and I want us to beat them when we play them.
My biggest takeaway is Cal still loves his “play not to lose” stall ball when he’s up double digits with less than 10 to play.
Arkansas has big Z at 50% , Davis and Fland at like 38% and DJ at 37% , Knox is 22%, Richmond is 0%
for us, Brea is 61% , Oweh is 42% , Almonor is 43% , Carr is 40% , Robinson is surprisingly 31% , and Butler is 33%, Chandler who wont shoot much against good teams is 30%. Kriisa unfortunately is 26%
Dont really get how Arkansas would be considered better at 3pt shooting than us . Also I'd like to know how much walmart , cowboys, and chicken man are paying teams to not zone them? its wild how like Baylor was the only team to do it .
for us, Brea is 61% , Oweh is 42% , Almonor is 43% , Carr is 40% , Robinson is surprisingly 31% , and Butler is 33%, Chandler who wont shoot much against good teams is 30%. Kriisa unfortunately is 26%
Dont really get how Arkansas would be considered better at 3pt shooting than us . Also I'd like to know how much walmart , cowboys, and chicken man are paying teams to not zone them? its wild how like Baylor was the only team to do it .
Through nine (9) games, we are shooting 35.9% from three and 49.5% overall.
We've had a 3-pt shooting slump in our last four (4) games, as you can see from the game-by-game summary below.
Hopefully, we can find our stroke back tonight at home against Colgate !! We REALLY need to ... !!
| DATE | OPPONENT | 3PT | 3PTA | 3PT% | TFGA | %3PTA | FT | FTA | FT% | OFF | DEF | W | L |
| 11/04/2024 | Wright State | 11 | 24 | 0.458 | 65 | 0.369 | 14 | 19 | 0.737 | 103 | 62 | 1 | |
| 11/09/2024 | Bucknell | 13 | 36 | 0.361 | 79 | 0.456 | 11 | 16 | 0.688 | 100 | 72 | 1 | |
| 11/12/2024 | Duke | 10 | 25 | 0.400 | 62 | 0.403 | 17 | 24 | 0.708 | 77 | 72 | 1 | |
| 11/19/2024 | Lipscomb | 12 | 25 | 0.480 | 62 | 0.403 | 17 | 21 | 0.810 | 97 | 68 | 1 | |
| 11/22/2024 | Jackson State | 17 | 39 | 0.436 | 71 | 0.549 | 9 | 10 | 0.900 | 108 | 59 | 1 | |
| 11/26/2024 | WKU | 8 | 29 | 0.276 | 62 | 0.468 | 29 | 42 | 0.690 | 87 | 68 | 1 | |
| 11/29/2024 | Georgia State | 7 | 26 | 0.269 | 67 | 0.388 | 18 | 22 | 0.818 | 105 | 76 | 1 | |
| 12/03/2024 | Clemson | 7 | 27 | 0.259 | 63 | 0.429 | 11 | 18 | 0.611 | 66 | 70 | 1 | |
| 12/07/2024 | Gonzaga | 7 | 25 | 0.280 | 75 | 0.333 | 15 | 18 | 0.833 | 90 | 89 | 1 | |
| Averages | 10.2 | 28.4 | 0.359 | 67.3 | 0.422 | 15.7 | 21.1 | 0.744 | 92.6 | 70.7 | 8 | 1 |
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I have always liked DeJuan Wagner's game. He will improve with each game this year and I think at the end of the season will end up in the draft. He was somewhat maligned last year due to starting him over Shepherd and Dillingham, but I believe he is still a very solid player. It is Calipari's coaching that I don't trust.
It's especially persuasive when someone opens a thread clearly labeled to say they don't care.
