Are you ok with the offense slowing down
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I don't think playing bigs more is gonna slow us down a lot. A lot being a relative term because we have been playing very fast out of necessity to a degree, given we were small and guard loaded before the bigs started getting healthy.
Personally, I'd like for this team to make defense its trademark and speed the game up on that end via turnovers and fast break points. I wanna see 40 minutes of hell from them. I know we're not there right now but I very much think we have the pieces to be great defensively in time. Our kids just don't know how yet. We can go small or big and still be fast, overall. Our bigs can all run the floor well. It's not like Edey or even what's his name at Kansas. Our bigs aren't built that way but can run for their size and are very athletic. I hope we get to see Big Z soon.
I like points as much as anyone and a running team is fun to watch but I'm defensive minded I guess. I like a frenetic pace on that side of the ball as much or more than on offense.
Personally, I'd like for this team to make defense its trademark and speed the game up on that end via turnovers and fast break points. I wanna see 40 minutes of hell from them. I know we're not there right now but I very much think we have the pieces to be great defensively in time. Our kids just don't know how yet. We can go small or big and still be fast, overall. Our bigs can all run the floor well. It's not like Edey or even what's his name at Kansas. Our bigs aren't built that way but can run for their size and are very athletic. I hope we get to see Big Z soon.
I like points as much as anyone and a running team is fun to watch but I'm defensive minded I guess. I like a frenetic pace on that side of the ball as much or more than on offense.
You use Bradshaw in pick and pop situations, high screen and roll, instead of just dump it down to the low block. He's not a polished post up player anyway, and neither are Ugo or Ivisic. They need to incorporate the running game with the shot blockers.
Any take that doesn't involve genuflecting at the altar of Cal is a bad take to you cowbois.
I agree the D will be better, especially the interior. But we have good guards that can handle the ball and shoot 3s. My fear is Cal will go away from that to post up more. Instead of 80 a game well be low 70 in the 60s. Recipe for disaster IMO
I don’t give a Sh!t as long as we win games. Winning is #1
This is exactly right IMO. Our bigs are built just right for that and I don't think that's by coincidence. We've got the right pieces. I don't understand how so many people on here can be so negative. How many HOF coaches are posting on here? I mean damn! Cal ain't always perfect but I think he knows what he has and why he recruited them...maybe better than anyone posting on here. What are the odds, right! Lol!
Scoring does not tell us everything. It tells you who wins the game, it doesn't tell you anything about the actual offense being run. You're saying adjusted advanced stats are misleading and then pointing to a raw stat as a rebuttal. Just looking at points scored in a game is the misleading thing.
What's a better offense, scoring 80 points on 70 possessions or scoring 80 points on 75 possessions? You're literally arguing it doesn't matter, that those offenses are the same because total points is all that matters. When your opponent slows it down and eats the majority of their own shot clock you get fewer offensive possessions. So you have fewer chances to score. So you score less. That doesn't mean you ran a slower or worse offense, it just means you had fewer actual scoring opportunities.
Penn is 306 in tempo. So our offense simply had the ball less than they would against a faster team. So we scored fewer points. But when the offense did have the ball it was playing at a higher tempo than it was before Bradshaw came back.
Nothing about that is misleading. Using adjusted stats is not misleading. Using raw stats is.
This board spent the last few years complaining about modern offense this and modern offense that. Those modern offenses are literally built on the backs of the advanced analytics. But all of a sudden when advanced analytics says your opinion is not factually correct you call them misleading and revert to the eye test or raw stats.
In most possible outcomes, the players' legs would be gone come March, but *knock wood* nobody around here cares how we do in March.
We'll see. Bradshaw wasn't a shot blocking phenom in HS. Hopefully as the year goes on and he practices more he'll improve in that regard. Onyenso is theoretically the better shot blocker, but he's kind of one-dimensional on offense. Or was.
On Sunday I'd like to see a map of where all the Saturday afternoon strokes occur in Kentucky and the times they happened. I predict Whistling Brain Poppet Valves all over Kentucky every time Onyenso takes a 2' shot. One of our cats leaps a foot or two whenever she hears any unidentified noise. Her twitch is faster than the speed of sound. A 2' shot by a big in a UK game produces similar quick twitch responses around here. How Calipari has betrayed the state etc.
I'm fine with it here and there as there are times you need to be able to run a half court offense effectively. Especially in closer end of game situations. However, we don't need for that to be this team's default.
I’m ok with shooting less threes if it’s because we’re getting more steals and dunks.
What I don’t like is when we sit back and let teams run 30 seconds of clock on us. Force the pace as much as possible.
What I don’t like is when we sit back and let teams run 30 seconds of clock on us. Force the pace as much as possible.
You do realize that 3 is greater than 2. If your opponent is knocking down 3s at or near 40%, you better get a lot of turnovers to beat them with dunks.
Nope. If you can wear down your opponent and keep them on their toes by pushing the pace, then you do so. But not Cal. He wants to slow down the game to showcase certain guys and inject himself into the spotlight with constant instruction and yelling.
Every time you get a steal and a dunk you outscore the opponent 2-0. I’ll take as many of those as I can get.
Pace doesn't equal shooting 3's. Push the pace and take the shots you get. Like Aike says dunks at the end of steal or runouts means you are winning 2-0 on individual possessions
I'll take 60% shooting over just about anything and we won't lose many with that %. If that means slowing it down, then slow it down...but it doesn't, by much with our players. Having bigs is a good thing, not a bad thing. WTH are people on here thinking? Even if we do slow down a bit but are rebounding the ball and shooting a higher percentage because of the bigs, I just don't see the problem other than...we want championships now and OUR way kinda stuff. I get it..it's great entertainment, especially when the 3s are raining down but it doesn't take an expert...and i'm not one, to know that we better have a game for nights that we don't shoot 75% from 3.
I just hope we get the defense working better. The O will happen with the options we have. Especially so, if we get the D working and getting turnovers, fast breaks, blocks and all that comes with good defense.
Frankly, if we play just average, the only way NC wins on Saturday is if they slow it down and goes 4 corners on us...Lol! We're just better at every position except Bacot and we've got two bigs to throw at him. If we lose, I don't think it'll be because of him...assuming Bradshaw shows up and Ugo can contribute. We're gonna win this game pretty handily...I think. Sure, shots have got to fall but we've got options there too. I may be wrong but I think we win this one. We'll see how it plays out. I wanna see defensive improvement most of all and passing the ball on O.
I just hope we get the defense working better. The O will happen with the options we have. Especially so, if we get the D working and getting turnovers, fast breaks, blocks and all that comes with good defense.
Frankly, if we play just average, the only way NC wins on Saturday is if they slow it down and goes 4 corners on us...Lol! We're just better at every position except Bacot and we've got two bigs to throw at him. If we lose, I don't think it'll be because of him...assuming Bradshaw shows up and Ugo can contribute. We're gonna win this game pretty handily...I think. Sure, shots have got to fall but we've got options there too. I may be wrong but I think we win this one. We'll see how it plays out. I wanna see defensive improvement most of all and passing the ball on O.
exactly, before Rupp basketball was 30 to 40 points a game... fun and gun baby 1996 style
See George C Scott as Patton for my answer.
I don't want to get any messages saying that "we are holding our position." We're not holding anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass.
I don't want to get any messages saying that "we are holding our position." We're not holding anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass.
I agree but the other team should have the same mentality. I like what we're doing, I look forward to getting our bigs involved and I hope our defense improves immensely.
Every time your opponent makes two 3s you need to make 3 dunks.
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UK will win more games scoring in the 80’s than the 60’s. I don’t know why this isn’t obvious to Cal.
Absolutely not. When they're getting up and down the floor, it's just been great basketball to watch. Even the Kansas game we lost, it still didn't feel like a chore watching it.
It's idiotic to argue that one game where we scored 73 was somehow more uptempo than one where we scored 94. You just contradicted yourself. You said Penn slowed us down. By definition that is LOWER TEMPO.
If you steal the ball, they can’t shoot a three. Seems pretty simple.
I’m suggesting that we become more aggressive on defense, leading to more fast break opportunities. I’m not suggesting that we stop shooting open threes.
Slowing down is fine if our efficiency goes out the roof. If the other teams feels like they have to score every possession to keep pace, it puts a lot of stress on them. Run when you can but not settling for dumb shots would be great. Lookin at you Edwards.
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