On account that the defense should become quite a bit better ? It’s obvious that the offense will slow down and post up more and take less 3’s. I hope they don’t slow down too much. But I’m good with that if our defense improves greatly with having two high level blockers on the team. Which that should also improve our perimeter defense since our guards off the security of a 7 footer helping out at the rim if they get beat on the perimeter
Are you ok with the offense slowing down
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Is it obvious? Because since Bradshaw started playing the offense has sped up quite a bit. Before he played we were in the mid-60s in adjusted tempo rankings, now we're in the mid-30s.
I think inevitably it will slow down with both him and Ugo. 1 full game from Bradshaw is such a small sample size.
The way I see it, if it leads to more wins and a better overall team, I’m fine with it slowing down some. The 38-1 team only averaged 74 points per game. But only gave up 54 points per game. I think there was a 35 sec shot clock at that time. And Not that this team will have the defense they had.
Stupid argument. If you don’t try to score at all the other team can win 1 to nothing.
Run their asses off. Make Bacot run the whole game.
Run their asses off. Make Bacot run the whole game.
No. I'd rather play our 4 guards and run.
Im ok with whatever wins basketball games. Especially the 6 you gotta win to win the title.
UK was averaging around 80-81 possessions per game the first 6 games. In the last 3 games the Cats are averaging 74.2 possessions per game. On the season we average 76.2 per game. Last season we finished at 69
No, run every team we play.... out of the gym....
Get our "bigs" to run just as hard as our backcourt....
AlohaCat
Get our "bigs" to run just as hard as our backcourt....
AlohaCat
Too many easy baskets/straight line drives. This team has got to start making it harder on other teams.
You can use those misleading stats all you want, but the bottom line is scoring, and we're scoring less with Bradshaw on the floor. Who am I going to trust, you or my lying eyes?
Scoring without adjusting for game tempo tells you nothing. If the other team plays slow and deliberate on offense you get fewer possessions, so you score less. That tells you nothing about the offense your own team is running though.
I love how people here use stats when the stats agree with their opinion, and then the eye test when the stats don't agree. Can't have it both ways.
I'll hold my breath defensively being "quite a bit better" sure wasn't last game.
That's also a product of what your opponent does on offense. Penn plays an extremely slow game, they're in the 300s in tempo I believe. No matter how fast we play on offense that means we get fewer possessions.
I think our offense has slowed because our defense has backed off. We had been driving faster pace with defense and forcing a lot of turnovers. We've somewhat digressed in defense.
Omahacats makes lots of stupid arguments.
I don't even think he cheers for Kentucky.
I have no problem with being prepared to play with more size when the need arises, but the slower we play on the whole, the less likely it is that we'll be successful in the long run.
This is Kentucky. The fast break was invented here. Speed the game up, spread the floor, and use the shooters we have on this team.
We obviously need to improve defensively, but don't sacrifice our greatest strength trying to become the kind of team Cal would've fielded a decade ago.
This is Kentucky. The fast break was invented here. Speed the game up, spread the floor, and use the shooters we have on this team.
We obviously need to improve defensively, but don't sacrifice our greatest strength trying to become the kind of team Cal would've fielded a decade ago.
Are you calling Edwards and Thiero guards? You don't don't think Mitchell should play? or is it Bradshaw and Onyenso who should not play? Do you even care whether we have any interior defense?
Meaningless stat when the last two games that increased our tempo ranking were also the two lowest scoring games on the season.
You guys don't seem to understand these stats are adjusted, they're not raw stats. Scoring is a raw stat. But the tempo and other efficiency ratings are adjusted based on your opponent and their pace. Penn's tempo is extremely slow, they're ranked 306. So just by playing them we will naturally score fewer points than usual because they eat up clock when on offense, which means fewer possessions for us.
Scoring 81 points against a team that slow is a very good pace.
Not interested in seeing more Calipari rock fights. Team needs to run.
Teams that play up tempo on offense can theoretically ALSO play fundamentally sound defense. Cal should be emphasizing BOTH.
Stop letting teams dictate the pace of the game. We are suppose to have the best of the best. Run them out of the gym. I watched a player get exposed on D, because he couldn't guard his guy. I don't remember anyone on the 96 team that couldn't guard someone. There D was what made them a great team. Also bought into team basketball.
If our 4 guards were the top draft prospects on the team, that is exactly what Cal would do. However, Cal is more interested in getting an invite into the NBA green room with his show ponies than cutting down the nets after winning an NC.
Scoring tells us everything. Scoring tells me how many points we score. If we score more than the other team, we win. If we score less, we lose. If our scoring goes down, that means we scored less than the last time. Cal is known for slowing games down regardless of how the other team plays. He admitted doing so even in 2012, and he almost choked away an easy title. If he reverts to form, we will not win to our potential.
The results wont matter. Cal is insisting on 2 bigs on the court.
Does defense define us or offense?
We’ve seen 2 styles of play but I don’t think you will see 2 styles played in the same game.
if this forum would beg more for a 2 big lineup, we might get what we really want. Cal doesn’t think much of outside opinion.
Does defense define us or offense?
We’ve seen 2 styles of play but I don’t think you will see 2 styles played in the same game.
if this forum would beg more for a 2 big lineup, we might get what we really want. Cal doesn’t think much of outside opinion.
It’s not all or nothing. Meaning your offense (or defense) isn’t just good or bad, it’s a continuous scale, say from 1 to 100. I’m happy if our offense drops from a 90 to an 85, if it means our defense improves from a 50 to a 70.
But I’m sure Cal (and every coach) emphasize both. Yet most teams are usually better at one or the other.
Thought this was pretty obvious in the Penn game. They played stall ball and UK still put up 80 plus somehow.
I say fit in where you get in.
Obviously, they'll need to adjust the tempo occasionally to incorporate the big men but not at the detriment of floor spacing. So long as the bigs can help with defensive rebounding, blocking shots, and get lobs it should be a net positive.
The biggest hurdle will be how Cal handles the substitutions and playing rotations. He tends to struggle when there's 9-10 guys fighting for minutes.
Obviously, they'll need to adjust the tempo occasionally to incorporate the big men but not at the detriment of floor spacing. So long as the bigs can help with defensive rebounding, blocking shots, and get lobs it should be a net positive.
The biggest hurdle will be how Cal handles the substitutions and playing rotations. He tends to struggle when there's 9-10 guys fighting for minutes.
Must be running low on that fast paste. Call Tubby maybe he still has some left over.
Really doesn't make a lick of sense, Bradshaw can out run Bacot but he can't out muscle him. Just Cal being Cal I guess.
Really doesn't make a lick of sense, Bradshaw can out run Bacot but he can't out muscle him. Just Cal being Cal I guess.
Playing better defense is naturally going to slow down tempo and probably limit offensive possessions.
Have to have a rim protector in playing pressure man to man.
I’m ok with having versatility. Also an inside presence. Watch U Conn and their 7 footer and big guys. Those big guys are good screeners as well.
Have to have a rim protector in playing pressure man to man.
I’m ok with having versatility. Also an inside presence. Watch U Conn and their 7 footer and big guys. Those big guys are good screeners as well.
No, this was my fear when the big guys got healthy. Cal just can't help himself
If it makes our D way better and our team better, then yes it’s ok. How can you possibly play faster when you have post players added in? Or better yet, how can you be a more effective defensive if you can’t stop teams from getting to the rim? I’ll take whatever is best for the team
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