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Another disgusting ESPN article

I think that's oversimplifying it, especially since bad nights are still gonna happen even if you're loaded with people who can shoot threes.

I know, but damn it seems like a few guys who can knock shit down routinely are what keeps us from more. I hate relying on freshman shooting guards. More times than not they aren't going to hit the big shots in the domes.
 
Cal goes to the FInal Four just about every year with a freshman team.

With the exception of last season, Coach K spends most seasons at home sucking his thumb after getting beat the first weekend by some unkown mid major.

I'm not sure how that equates to Coach K beating Cal at his own game.
 
Beating Cal at his own game? That's rich. They both have 1 title since Duke adopted Cal's strategy. Cal has 4 FFs and 2 title games at UK. That's better than K's record during that span, if you don't include the 2010 season since that team was veteran-rich.
 
I know, but damn it seems like a few guys who can knock shit down routinely are what keeps us from more. I hate relying on freshman shooting guards. More times than not they aren't going to hit the big shots in the domes.

I think if you are waiting for Cal to recruit a bunch of shooting guards like K, you are in for a long wait.
 
Cal goes to the FInal Four just about every year with a freshman team.

With the exception of last season, Coach K spends most seasons at home sucking his thumb after getting beat the first weekend by some unkown mid major.

I'm not sure how that equates to Coach K beating Cal at his own game.

Recency bias.

And just plain old Coach K bias.
 
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I think if you are waiting for Cal to recruit a bunch of shooting guards like K, you are in for a long wait.

I don't want cal to really change anything. Just maybe offer a scholarship to a guy who will hang around and hit the deep shots when we need it.

He doesn't think so, and maybe I'm wrong. But I believe this is what K is going to do. I would hate to know something as simple as that stops us from mad success.(3 titles. 4 titles. Etc)
 
I've become so numb to the constant praising of Duke from ESPN and other media outlets. Honestly it only bothers me come tournament time when they get handed a road to the final 4 paved with blocks of hersheys chocolate and surrounded by flowers made of jolly ranchers, cotton candy, tootsie pops, and balloon animals, while ours is like delivering the ring of promise and justice to mount doom.
 
I remember reading some of the comments on message boards from Duke fans but how much they despised the One & Dones. This was the earlier years of John Calipari when we had Wall, Cousins, Knight. Now it's working wonders for them lol
 
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I remember reading some of the comments on message boards from Duke fans but how much they despised the One & Dones. This was the earlier years of John Calipari when we had Wall, Cousins, Knight. Now it's working wonders for them lol

Even with the Mormon kid they kept saying he's not a OAD, he's got ministry trips to take, we don't aspire for 1 year players, etc.....

He even came out against UK and Cal by saying he doesn't like our system and it's not for him.

Liars and hypocrites. If the media held these people responsible, damn.
 
I don't want cal to really change anything. Just maybe offer a scholarship to a guy who will hang around and hit the deep shots when we need it.

He doesn't think so, and maybe I'm wrong. But I believe this is what K is going to do. I would hate to know something as simple as that stops us from mad success.(3 titles. 4 titles. Etc)
I don't want cal to really change anything. Just maybe offer a scholarship to a guy who will hang around and hit the deep shots when we need it.

He doesn't think so, and maybe I'm wrong. But I believe this is what K is going to do. I would hate to know something as simple as that stops us from mad success.(3 titles. 4 titles. Etc)

Dodson was supposed to be that guy the first year.

Mulder now?

Lamb stayed 2 years and was arguably our best shooter ever.

I doubt Cal expected Booker to leave after 1 year as a lottery pick.

Basically, I think Cal agrees with what you're saying and tries to bring those guys in. But he doesn't let it override his goal of bringing in players who can quickly develop into NBA talents.

Food for thought...as great a shooter as Lamb was, it was Teague who hit the biggest shot during the championship game. And we all know what Aaron did. Those freshmen guards have been pretty good to us.
 
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I may be insane but I thought that was a pretty well done piece. Kind of calling a spade a spade. Imitation, flattery and so forth.

Karl Towns comment about Coach K and K non-commenting on the Harrison twins and the Wisconsin game ... those are interesting even if you don't like the rest.
 
The main NCAAM page's title for this article is:

"O'Connor: How Duke and Coach K have become Kentucky -- and are better at it"

Better how - because they cake-walked to the Championship and had to play a worn out Wisconsin team for the title, and did so with 3 one-and-dones? Let's see if they are "better at it" over the next several years. Doing it once doesn't mean "better". In the past few years, Cal has been BETTER at it, as he's had one-and-dones several times more often than K's ONE TIME. Lightning in a bottle doesn't equate to "better at" something.
 
duke and uk each with one title featuring an all-american freshman, and two other freshman starters, 2012 & 2015. duke is not better at all at the one and done. can't believe i even had to say that. who is this retard.
 
Why are people shocked that ESPN is making coach K "the innovator" And success story of the OAD era? When they won that title were people really thinking this wasn't coming?

Titles matter. I get so sick of the ideological think tankers who think this stuff has no effect. They aren't athletes and they don't know sports.

Had we won that title, Cal would be the don of college basketball. Take that one title away, and it's completely reversed in favor of K. The media spins how they want. Just watch the national media and you'll get all you need of it.

We need to produce big. I can't sleep knowing K will end with credit for something he didn't earn. People need to start coming out against the selection committee with these Damn easy f'in roads Duke gets. Enough is enough.
 
Hard for me to complain, as a UK fan, about the obvious truism that ESPN slobbers all over K and Duke. Because they slobber all of Cal and UK, too. Face it, at times, ESPN is not much more than an infomercial for UK and Calipari. There may be one school of the 300+ D1 programs that gets better treatment than we do, and that's arguable.

There are people out there who really, really don't like UK and/or Calipari. There are plenty of things to complain about when it comes to media and treatment of us vs others. I reserve my scorn for those guys. Individually.
 
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"Coach K was supportive of Elton Brand when he left early"

This is the same recruit that killed coach K with talented big men who had games that resembled a OAD type.

Who the hell are they trying to fool?

He wasn't supportive of Avery. He wasnt supportive of Magetti.

Some of the article is decent but it's poorly researched. This is becoming a common theme with ESPN covering college baskrtball.

Can we be real for a second.

Coach k was scared to mirror his philosophy off of UK because he saw the backlash. He also saw the media gives him a pass, and he saw cal and UK about to take the end of his legacy. We still might.

He adapted and was only able to because he disgustingly uses team USA for his personal benifit. Even ** Dean Smyth ** gave it up citing ethical and moral reasoning.

That's the story. Great coach, but ESPN is trying to single handedly change the entire situation to benifit Duke. We need to win tonight, and we need to lock up another ship.

Lots of shit at stake here people.
 
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